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JSA - or what ever you call it

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Created by Crusoe > 9 months ago, 25 Jan 2018
blueprint
WA, 321 posts
27 Jan 2018 7:04PM
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Says all it needs to good luck

nice to see you had to remove the union website link after I posted

busterwa
3782 posts
27 Jan 2018 7:20PM
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Hey blueprint if your workplace didn't out source to 457`s and labour hire you'd be out of a job? I think you should move into injuiry rehabilitation. What workplace injury did you have? I hope you filled out your JHA! Bet the coin in the HSE department a bit of a dive. Its great to see they pay you accordingly.

"Im trying to prevent what happened to me". Put up a couple of stretching exercise posters up(cause everyone does that just after filling out the JHA )up mabe a "what colour is your urine" safe lifting manual handling...Hold-on a graph of lti`s and how much money you saved dragging someone back to work on life support! haha

Poida
WA, 1922 posts
2 Feb 2018 10:47AM
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Ive worked with a pipelaying crew , excavating and laying deep sewer through existing streets, and the pipe layers, who were very good at their job, could not read or write. It helped if you spoke italian to communicate with them. Not sure how they are meant to sign off on a JHA. The are approaching their late 50's and the digger operator is 70. He refuses any of the suggestions from the safety officer like wearing sunglasses, JHA's. Unfortunately he was one of the best operators and could solve a lot of difficult construction problems, but not with a JHA, everything was verbal. They dont work on government work due to their lack of conforming to the requirements. On private jobs the supervisor verbally discusses the issues in their multiple take 5's (ciggy break) and signs the JHA on their behalf. They were the old school.

Crusoe
QLD, 1197 posts
2 Feb 2018 3:15PM
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When I first started working there were no safety forms to fill out prior to doing a task. I remember as an apprentice going to a safety talk and was told a back injury could occur from something as simple as picking up a dropped pencil if you didn't bend down correctly. I wonder how many office workers are required to do a JSA prior to picking up a pencil.

As far a claiming a JSA is a great planning tool for jobs. That a load bull$hit. The sales pitch and nothing else. But breaking down a job into steps to identify potential hazards if a fair claim.

I don't do repetitive tasks and work by myself mostly. To do this I need a good understanding of my job and how to perform it safely. I use safety harness, protective clothing, safety glass, hearing protection and correct lifting techniques. I carry bollards to keep the public from entering my work area, This list goes on. As I said when I first started this thread. I find that writing out a JSA makes absolutely no fu#king difference to how I would have performed the task if I hadn't' written a JSA out at all.

What makes me a safe worker is the training I received during my career. Not the threat of some one not employing me if I didn't fill out a piece of paper. Can I do my job safer? The answer is yes and I am willing to do and learn more towards making my job safer. But this will not come form a JSA, it will come from having an open mind and the willingness to learn and make changes for the better. Its just a pity that some so called safety officers (or what ever you call yourselves) aren't willing to push for skills training rather than spruiking the benefits of some generic bull$hit form that is suppose to make the guy on the tools safer.

(zero coronas)



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