Hi Forma, yeah I listened to doctor Richard Fleming a cardiologist in a video about a year ago. I remember him saying there's no such thing as mild myocarditis and thought the same for pericarditis. But am only going from memory and deleted my post because now I am not sure. Apparently heart tissue can't heal and the inflammation will cause scaring you loose contractility and have a greater chance of heart attack and other problems later in life.
They have changed the dictionary to fit this vaccine agenda and it seems doctors and google are playing down heart inflammation now. I understand why people no longer trust doctors, most that haven't quit by now are basically big pharma pill and vaccine prostitutes. I don't want to sound negative just so much corruption going on, hope psycojo makes full recovery.
This will be controversial to some however there's some good info in here on less toxic treatments to help with Covid. Not sure how relevant it is to Omicron & future variants.
covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..eppo said..
Yeh that's where I am at so far. It makes no sense for the elite and their government puppets to hurt their modern feudal class slaves. They don't make money if their worker ants are sick and stop consuming at an ever increasing rate. Governments and their bodies are just are made up by people who are probably just as confused by the various narratives being thrown around even by the so called experts in their fields. No one truly knows what's going on or how to best treat this issues properly.
I personally don't buy into any grand conspiracy theories. That's a self fulfilling hole that if you deep in, i suggest you pull yourself out of it. The interactions and situations are far too complex for such nonsense.
the cardio issues with the vaccine are statistically relevant across the globe (especially in teenage boys). The numbers don't lie here. There are a few theories on why this is but none yet to be proven conclusively.
Again what we should be more worried about is the mandated (now booster over here) vax shots. But some of you don't seem and may never see the problem with this. Until it's too late. Its not a conspiracy that power begets more power. It has been this one since the dawn of time and is ingrained into our very DNA.
Yeah Eppo I'm not into conspiracy theories on this either. Having said that, greed & delusion play a big part in this pandemic.
What I have found interesting in the past year is the censorship the media have done to any alternate view to the main narrative. I check the Sydney Morning Herald daily because I'm from Sydney & I'm curious what the masses are fed. There were plenty of times over the past year an article would come out & I would write a comment linking to a legitimate study that would challenge the articles view.
For example around 4-5 months ago SMH articles would report if you were double vaxxed you would be gaining good long term protection & you would not be spreading Covid around. I'd write comments linking to various Israelis medical scientific studies showing that double vaccination efficacy was waning fast & natural immunity was a legitimate strategy for people who were healthy & relatively young (under 50).
I must have tried 10 times over the past 6 months on various dubious articles & my comments would never get published. It makes me wonder how many people would be writing in with constructive facts & figures but would never get heard. The comments were overwhelmingly in favour of whatever the article was saying making readers think that everyone was in agreement with what was being reported.
I can sense a change of heart now though as people are starting to realise vaccines don't stop the spread & adverse reactions are happening to loved ones.
*SMH main headline today, "Western Sydney man in his 40s dies after getting COVID"!
Should it not read, "Western Sydney man with UNDERLYING HEALTH CONDITIONS dies with COVID in his system'?
Yeh bud whether you are anti or pro vax, lockdowns, masks etc you wound have to be blind Freddy to
not be aware of the problem with censorship. These social media giants (the largest corporations in human history) have somehow become the gate keepers of information flow. Dangerous stuff. Dictators of the historical past given their right arm for such control. The covid thing has glaringly revealed this under lying issue
as far as mainstream media - I personally don't even go there anymore. They are dead man walking, head only just above water gasping for their next click bait hit before they finnaly go under. They will fade into oblivion like video shops and the like. Dinosaurs. Listen to that mob seriously you've stopped thinking altogether.
Thats why i get all my medical advice from random strangers on watersports forums, that way you know its uncensored and legit.
Select to expand quoteeppo said..Flying Dutchman said..eppo said..
Yeh that's where I am at so far. It makes no sense for the elite and their government puppets to hurt their modern feudal class slaves. They don't make money if their worker ants are sick and stop consuming at an ever increasing rate. Governments and their bodies are just are made up by people who are probably just as confused by the various narratives being thrown around even by the so called experts in their fields. No one truly knows what's going on or how to best treat this issues properly.
I personally don't buy into any grand conspiracy theories. That's a self fulfilling hole that if you deep in, i suggest you pull yourself out of it. The interactions and situations are far too complex for such nonsense.
the cardio issues with the vaccine are statistically relevant across the globe (especially in teenage boys). The numbers don't lie here. There are a few theories on why this is but none yet to be proven conclusively.
Again what we should be more worried about is the mandated (now booster over here) vax shots. But some of you don't seem and may never see the problem with this. Until it's too late. Its not a conspiracy that power begets more power. It has been this one since the dawn of time and is ingrained into our very DNA.
Yeah Eppo I'm not into conspiracy theories on this either. Having said that, greed & delusion play a big part in this pandemic.
What I have found interesting in the past year is the censorship the media have done to any alternate view to the main narrative. I check the Sydney Morning Herald daily because I'm from Sydney & I'm curious what the masses are fed. There were plenty of times over the past year an article would come out & I would write a comment linking to a legitimate study that would challenge the articles view.
For example around 4-5 months ago SMH articles would report if you were double vaxxed you would be gaining good long term protection & you would not be spreading Covid around. I'd write comments linking to various Israelis medical scientific studies showing that double vaccination efficacy was waning fast & natural immunity was a legitimate strategy for people who were healthy & relatively young (under 50).
I must have tried 10 times over the past 6 months on various dubious articles & my comments would never get published. It makes me wonder how many people would be writing in with constructive facts & figures but would never get heard. The comments were overwhelmingly in favour of whatever the article was saying making readers think that everyone was in agreement with what was being reported.
I can sense a change of heart now though as people are starting to realise vaccines don't stop the spread & adverse reactions are happening to loved ones.
*SMH main headline today, "Western Sydney man in his 40s dies after getting COVID"!
Should it not read, "Western Sydney man with UNDERLYING HEALTH CONDITIONS dies with COVID in his system'?
Yeh bud whether you are anti or pro vax, lockdowns, masks etc you wound have to be blind Freddy to
not be aware of the problem with censorship. These social media giants (the largest corporations in human history) have somehow become the gate keepers of information flow. Dangerous stuff. Dictators of the historical past given their right arm for such control. The covid thing has glaringly revealed this under lying issue
as far as mainstream media - I personally don't even go there anymore. They are dead man walking, head only just above water gasping for their next click bait hit before they finnaly go under. They will fade into oblivion like video shops and the like. Dinosaurs. Listen to that mob seriously you've stopped thinking altogether.
Well said Eppo!
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
Well said Eppo!
Haven't you got another jab to line up for?
Select to expand quotemyscreenname
Haven't you got another jab to line up for?
Sorry mate, I'm not getting the question?
Well well looks like it will be a Frenchie that will make Mao Clown face the reality and open up WA.
Good. Better than the emperor changing goal posts again and delay even further.
Merry Christmas you lot
Cheers
Select to expand quoteCH3MTR4IL5 said..
Thats why i get all my medical advice from random strangers on watersports forums, that way you know its uncensored and legit.
the disease is in the vaccine.
you heard it here first
seabreeze, uncensored science and watersport forum
also, uncensored magazine, grab yourself a copy
Select to expand quotetheDoctor said..CH3MTR4IL5 said..
Thats why i get all my medical advice from random strangers on watersports forums, that way you know its uncensored and legit.
the disease is in the vaccine.
you heard it here first
seabreeze, uncensored science and watersport forum
also, uncensored magazine, grab yourself a copy
Who do u think you are, a doctor?
having had been a relationship with a real doctor for years and associating with their kind.
I can tell you decent ones, even ones that are in it for reasons other than prestige or family obligations (especially in Australia's imported doctor culture) are very few and far between.
and now even the good ones are gagged and spied on.
Select to expand quoteTequila ! said..
Well well looks like it will be a Frenchie that will make Mao Clown face the reality and open up WA.
Good. Better than the emperor changing goal posts again and delay even further.
Merry Christmas you lot
Cheers
5 new cases.
Yeah, its good that an unvaccinated person got in and may result in the economy being locked down... yeah, just great! 
Rest assured, even if this case results in another 100 cases popping up, WA will not open up to the other states earlier, unless of course they go nuts. NSW is now going back to masks after most of the public decided for themselves they were a good idea.
Just being out now, everyone here is happy to be out wearing masks.
What idiot wants to 'open up' just so that they can get 5000 cases a day of Covid?
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5 new cases.
Yeah, its good that an unvaccinated person got in and may result in the economy being locked down... yeah, just great!
Rest assured, even if this case results in another 100 cases popping up, WA will not open up to the other states earlier, unless of course they go nuts. NSW is now going back to masks after most of the public decided for themselves they were a good idea.
Just being out now, everyone here is happy to be out wearing masks.
What idiot wants to 'open up' just so that they can get 5000 cases a day of Covid?
The good news is that WA is well ahead of the game. It was always going to happen. Unfortunate that their hospital system is not up to scratch and that there are so many remote communities.
Start lining up for jabs, putting on masks downloading check in apps and negotiate the coming lockdowns. Good luck.
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Hey myscreenname I was asking a legit question. Can you clarify please?
We all have jabs to line up for. In Israel, I read they are now onto number 4. Instead of encouraging eppo, you should be getting in line for your next jab.
Select to expand quotemyscreenname said..Flying Dutchman said..
Hey myscreenname I was asking a legit question. Can you clarify please?
We all have jabs to line up for. In Israel, I read they are now onto number 4. Instead of encouraging eppo, you should be getting in line for your next jab.
Ah ok. I haven't had any jabs for Covid. I'll let you know if I survive.
As for shot number 4, I'm not sure how many jabs the public are willing to take until they've had enough.
www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-rolls-out-fourth-dose-despite-worries-it-could-lower-immunity-20211224-p59jzs.html
I was just looking at the NSW charts of COVID cases and it's doing way better than bitcoin. It was steady at 200 for weeks and has gone 25x in a week.
COVID has no intrinsic value and I reckon a bubble is forming. It's a ponzi and will go to zero.
If I was to speculate on WA, I think this time next week cases will go at least 5x. I think they have Delta.
Select to expand quotetheDoctor said..
having had been a relationship with a real doctor for years and associating with their kind.
and now even the good ones are gagged and spied on.
OnlyFans? They're not real doctors or nurses you know.
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I was just looking at the NSW charts of COVID cases and it's doing way better than bitcoin. It was steady at 200 for weeks and has gone 25x in a week.
COVID has no intrinsic value and I reckon a bubble is forming. It's a ponzi and will go to zero.
If I was to speculate on WA, I think this time next week cases will go at least 5x. I think they have Delta.
Don't tempt fate! Last time we locked down I had to wear a mask to the kitebeach, rig up, take off mask, and then go kiting for an hour or so. It was terrible! (maybe it was the time before? I think one of the other times I had to go bike riding and take of the mask. There were so many lockdowns I lost count, not just one continuous one.)
There is a new crypto currency coming out, which will be better than Bitcoin, if they can only figure out what it was about Bitcoin that was so important.
The press must be trying to mislead us:
"The man's girlfriend and four people he was living with in Girrawheen have all tested negative. They were all vaccinated."
As if! A vaccine that helped them not get it even though they were living in the same house? Incredible! Must be a conspiracy.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..myscreenname said..
I was just looking at the NSW charts of COVID cases and it's doing way better than bitcoin. It was steady at 200 for weeks and has gone 25x in a week.
COVID has no intrinsic value and I reckon a bubble is forming. It's a ponzi and will go to zero.
If I was to speculate on WA, I think this time next week cases will go at least 5x. I think they have Delta.
Don't tempt fate! Last time we locked down I had to wear a mask to the kitebeach, rig up, take off mask, and then go kiting for an hour or so. It was terrible! (maybe it was the time before? I think one of the other times I had to go bike riding and take of the mask. There were so many lockdowns I lost count, not just one continuous one.)
There is a new crypto currency coming out, which will be better than Bitcoin, if they can only figure out what it was about Bitcoin that was so important.
The press must be trying to mislead us:
"The man's girlfriend and four people he was living with in Girrawheen have all tested negative. They were all vaccinated."
As if! A vaccine that helped them not get it even though they were living in the same house? Incredible! Must be a conspiracy.
Hahaha Gooo Frenchie
Will apply for renewing my passport then. Great news!
Go hide under your rock and give a hug in your favorite dictator...you guys deserve each other.
Feliz Navidad
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
As for shot number 4, I'm not sure how many jabs the public are willing to take until they've had enough.
www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-rolls-out-fourth-dose-despite-worries-it-could-lower-immunity-20211224-p59jzs.html
Yeah, interesting. Most people I know that have had their booster have told me the reaction was worse than their first two jabs. I know a couple of people that were laid low for a week by it.
Seems the TRUTH is slowly coming to surface. (i.e. some balanced views finally coming to light just from people talking.)
Merry Christmas to all!
Select to expand quoteHarrow said..Flying Dutchman said..
As for shot number 4, I'm not sure how many jabs the public are willing to take until they've had enough.
www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-rolls-out-fourth-dose-despite-worries-it-could-lower-immunity-20211224-p59jzs.html
Yeah, interesting. Most people I know that have had their booster have told me the reaction was worse than their first two jabs. I know a couple of people that were laid low for a week by it.
Seems the TRUTH is slowly coming to surface. (i.e. some balanced views finally coming to light just from people talking.)
Merry Christmas to all!
I wonder if a strong reaction is a good thing or a bad thing? Does it mean your body is responding well to 'a virus' or is it reacting badly to something in the vaccine?
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..myscreenname said..
I was just looking at the NSW charts of COVID cases and it's doing way better than bitcoin. It was steady at 200 for weeks and has gone 25x in a week.
COVID has no intrinsic value and I reckon a bubble is forming. It's a ponzi and will go to zero.
If I was to speculate on WA, I think this time next week cases will go at least 5x. I think they have Delta.
Don't tempt fate! Last time we locked down I had to wear a mask to the kitebeach, rig up, take off mask, and then go kiting for an hour or so. It was terrible! (maybe it was the time before? I think one of the other times I had to go bike riding and take of the mask. There were so many lockdowns I lost count, not just one continuous one.)
There is a new crypto currency coming out, which will be better than Bitcoin, if they can only figure out what it was about Bitcoin that was so important.
The press must be trying to mislead us:
"The man's girlfriend and four people he was living with in Girrawheen have all tested negative. They were all vaccinated."
As if! A vaccine that helped them not get it even though they were living in the same house? Incredible! Must be a conspiracy.
Come on bud you are better than that. Using one example to try and secure a point of view. This need to be data driven over as bigger sample space as possible to make any inferences. And these inferences need to be tested with aim of disproving them. That's the science process - something lacking in this entire debacle regarding masks, lockdowns, other treatment protocols and this entire experimental vaccine (we need to stop calling it a vaccine really ), let's go with pre treatment method.
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I wonder if a strong reaction is a good thing or a bad thing? Does it mean your body is responding well to 'a virus' or is it reacting badly to something in the vaccine?
My understanding is any immediate reaction is from the vaccine ancillary ingredients, binding agents stabilisers etc. it takes a week or so for the body to mount an immune response and respond to the actual viral protein.
To contribute to Harrow's search for TRUTH, i have had no reactions from first, second or booster(all pfizer). Except for a hurty arm when i kite afterwards, but i am willing to make that sacrifice for you guys, thats how much i care.
Select to expand quoteCH3MTR4IL5 said..FormulaNova said..
I wonder if a strong reaction is a good thing or a bad thing? Does it mean your body is responding well to 'a virus' or is it reacting badly to something in the vaccine?
My understanding is any immediate reaction is from the vaccine ancillary ingredients, binding agents stabilisers etc. it takes a week or so for the body to mount an immune response and respond to the actual viral protein.
To contribute to Harrow's search for TRUTH, i have had no reactions from first, second or booster(all pfizer). Except for a hurty arm when i kite afterwards, but i am willing to make that sacrifice for you guys, thats how much i care.
That was the understanding of the virology community too. I've disproved that by taking the DNA vaccine which is delivered without lipids or PEG or anything else and getting the same reaction. My cardiologist seemed to think it was a no- brainer.
My new understanding is that we'd be in a much better position if we changed our slogan from 'just get vaxxed' to 'an onion a day keeps the Covid away'
Merry Christmas Everyone
i take it you had AZ then if something without lipids? i didn't realise that the myocarditis symptoms were occurring so quickly, i assumed they were appearing some time after.
The second is the younger subgroup of myocarditis/pericarditis. Specifically, 12-39-year-olds at days 1-21 of vaccination had a 9.8-times increased risk of myocarditis or pericarditis compared to those at days 22-42 of vaccination. This gives an excess of 6.3 cases per million doses.More specifically, 85% were male, 85% experienced it within 7 days of vaccination, 82% were hospitalized, and 6% were admitted to the intensive care unit. But nobody died.
source below, worth a read in general.
medium.com/microbial-instincts/mrna-vaccine-safety-and-risks-a-one-year-update-from-the-u-s-u-k-and-israel-20402f345dca
