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Bali dentists

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Created by Surfer62 > 9 months ago, 23 May 2014
Surfer62
1357 posts
23 May 2014 7:08PM
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Anyone had recent experience with dentists in Bali ?

fingerbone
NSW, 921 posts
23 May 2014 9:43PM
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Fuc k that ...... wait till you get back to oz

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
23 May 2014 10:18PM
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avoid the appointment time " 2.30 "

kk
WA, 953 posts
23 May 2014 9:35PM
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Not that I would try it myself, but I have heard ex pats over there say that some of the dentists are very very good with better equipment than most western dentist. Like I said not that I would risk it myself, no doktorgigi for me. twooth:hurty already

sausage
QLD, 4874 posts
24 May 2014 12:04AM
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SandS said...

avoid the appointment time " 2.30 "


Ah the old Chinese dentist time..

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
24 May 2014 12:10AM
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Not first hand experience but a few people I know have spoken highly of a dentist in the galleria. Bali 911 or something.

Toph
WA, 1875 posts
24 May 2014 12:44AM
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MDSXR6T said...
Not first hand experience but a few people I know have spoken highly of a dentist in the galleria. Bali 911 or something.



Is that the Aussie bloke? There are a few Australian dentists in the Kuta area I believe.

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
24 May 2014 5:58AM
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Iv heard secondhand that they are brilliant and fair priced.

hargs
QLD, 634 posts
24 May 2014 8:36AM
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I have seen some bloody terrible dentistry out of the likes of bali over the years. I'm not saying that there aren't any good dentists over there, but in my experience what I have seen is ** house treatment. People may think they are saving themselves money, but for many in the long run it's just more heartache and money when it all goes pear shaped. Not to mention I would be very wary of the infection control practices in some of these countries. Yep going to the dentist in Australia isn't cheap. It is a very expensive service to provide with high over heads. But be assured cheap dentistry is just that - cheap and nasty.

WazzaYotty
QLD, 302 posts
24 May 2014 11:00AM
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I agree you Hargs. I have, in my 34 year career as a dentist, never seen "good" dentistry out of Bali....I've seen 1 or 2 "OK" jobs but the majority are "poor to very poor" and some are "unbelievably dreadful". Bali is not known as a centre of dental excellence! Nor is anywhere in South East Asia for that matter....it's a 3rd world area so quality, although it exists, can be very hard to find.
In every country in the world, dentistry is expensive to the locals....to the Balinese people their dentists are exorbitant, same with the Swiss etc.
, so I understand why Aussies look for cheaper dentistry overseas. If you must do it, get some personal recommendations from people who have been to the actual dentist themselves and had work done in the past....not a recommendation from a Travel Agent ( who are always on a kick-back) or the bloke down the pub. Poor choice selection.
Most of the big cases like crowns and dental implants, the high costs items in Australia, are difficult and time-consuming for a dentist to do both well and predictably. Recent evidence is finding that, even in 1st world countries, dental implants have far more long-term problems than we had ever expected. Badly placed dental implants are very difficult and invasive to correct with huge costs in the process.
Just remember, if you buy a "$20 Rolex" it's not actually going to be a Rolex although it might go for a while!!

hargs
QLD, 634 posts
24 May 2014 12:46PM
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WazzaYotty said...

Just remember, if you buy a "$20 Rolex" it's not actually going to be a Rolex although it might go for a while!!




farkkk, no wonder the dive watch I bought in the Phillipines didn't even survive a shower.

firiebob
WA, 3179 posts
24 May 2014 11:31AM
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WazzaYotty said...
If you must do it, get some personal recommendations from people who have been to the actual dentist themselves and had work done in the past


+1

Ok not Bali but, I had a work mate who's been going to the same dentist in Vietnam for years, my wife and I needed some dental work so that's where we went. I can honestly say we are very happy with the results, my wife was quoted $3.500 here. In Vietnam my wife had lots of fillings and an implant which we will have to go back for to be finished, they didn't think the crown she was quoted for here in Aus was needed and the implant wasn't in the Aus quote so that's a bonus. Me, I had a crown and a bridge done, total cost for the both of us $1,600 although my wife's implant isn't finished.

Although we stayed in a cheap hotel (nice) surrounded by more Honda bikes than mosquitoes in FNQ, the dentist was in a nice area with BMW's etc parked in the street, not a hole in an alley. Total cost for us with airfares, hotel, dentist, tucker and a few tours was $5,000 for the two of us although we didn't stray too far from Ho Chi Minh and only ate local tucker (yum). When we go back it will be for a month plus and we'll have a better look around south to north. The Viennese are bloody nice people.

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
24 May 2014 12:38PM
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firiebob said...
WazzaYotty said...
If you must do it, get some personal recommendations from people who have been to the actual dentist themselves and had work done in the past


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Ok not Bali but, I had a work mate who's been going to the same dentist in Vietnam for years, my wife and I needed some dental work so that's where we went. I can honestly say we are very happy with the results, my wife was quoted $3.500 here. In Vietnam my wife had lots of fillings and an implant which we will have to go back for to be finished, they didn't think the crown she was quoted for here in Aus was needed and the implant wasn't in the Aus quote so that's a bonus. Me, I had a crown and a bridge done, total cost for the both of us $1,600 although my wife's implant isn't finished.

Although we stayed in a cheap hotel (nice) surrounded by more Honda bikes than mosquitoes in FNQ, the dentist was in a nice area with BMW's etc parked in the street, not a hole in an alley. Total cost for us with airfares, hotel, dentist, tucker and a few tours was $5,000 for the two of us although we didn't stray too far from Ho Chi Minh and only ate local tucker (yum). When we go back it will be for a month plus and we'll have a better look around south to north. The Viennese are bloody nice people.

So were the Viennese there for some cheap dental work too?
And what were the local people like.

busterwa
3782 posts
24 May 2014 8:48PM
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choco
SA, 4177 posts
25 May 2014 7:50AM
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WazzaYotty said...
I agree you Hargs. I have, in my 34 year career as a dentist, never seen "good" dentistry out of Bali....I've seen 1 or 2 "OK" jobs but the majority are "poor to very poor" and some are "unbelievably dreadful". Bali is not known as a centre of dental excellence! Nor is anywhere in South East Asia for that matter....it's a 3rd world area so quality, although it exists, can be very hard to find.
In every country in the world, dentistry is expensive to the locals....to the Balinese people their dentists are exorbitant, same with the Swiss etc.
, so I understand why Aussies look for cheaper dentistry overseas. If you must do it, get some personal recommendations from people who have been to the actual dentist themselves and had work done in the past....not a recommendation from a Travel Agent ( who are always on a kick-back) or the bloke down the pub. Poor choice selection.
Most of the big cases like crowns and dental implants, the high costs items in Australia, are difficult and time-consuming for a dentist to do both well and predictably. Recent evidence is finding that, even in 1st world countries, dental implants have far more long-term problems than we had ever expected. Badly placed dental implants are very difficult and invasive to correct with huge costs in the process.
Just remember, if you buy a "$20 Rolex" it's not actually going to be a Rolex although it might go for a while!!



stop charging out your arse's then

hargs
QLD, 634 posts
25 May 2014 10:35AM
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It's an expensive service to provide mate. The overheads in running a dental surgery are huge. The only way to deliver cheap dentistry is to cut corners which ultimately compromises the quality of the care provided. So I say again cheap dentistry is just that - cheap and nasty. I don't & won't do it, but am happy to fix things up for you when the bargain basement dental work fails.

Crank3d
7 posts
25 May 2014 2:46PM
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I was in Bali about a month ago, my board hit me in the mouth and broke a crown on Tuesday. Saw a dentist on Wednesday, new crown was fitted on Saturday. That was about a month ago, cost AUD$350, no problems. Dentist was Bali911 at Galleria.

saltiest1
NSW, 2566 posts
25 May 2014 5:53PM
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oh what a shocker hahahahahaa

Test pilot 1
WA, 1430 posts
25 May 2014 5:29PM
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Must do a good job. Seems to have at least one satisfied customer.

BlueSun
NT, 11 posts
27 May 2014 12:41AM
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I always ask this question to people who have invasive dental procedures done "cheaply' overseas :
Can you drink the tap water where you are staying? That same water runs through the dental waterlines.

Where I live is a 2 hour flight from Bali, so see a lot of people who get work done there.
Bali911 advertises in Jetstar flight magazines. I think they are great. They are and endless source of indirect referrals for my practice.

A barber works for years with the sign $20 haircuts. Across the street a new salon opens with the sign - $5 haircuts.
First guy changes his sign to "We fix $5 haircuts"

myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
27 May 2014 9:19AM
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i am a massive tightwad but I would never consider anything like that done there.
Stop wasting money on frivolous stuff and save up. worth it. It's not just the quality of the dentist, It's the comeback you have if something is wrong. the warranty! In australia you have to comply with so much quality and regulatory, insurances, professional bodies, ongoing traiing etc. What does some feral indon have to do in a country where they are so cheap they use industrial chemicals to make you cheaper cocktails

fangman
WA, 1906 posts
27 May 2014 8:28AM
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With the rise of Super Bugs in SE Asia that are resistant to antibiotics this means that if you are unfortunate enough to become infected you are in very deep poo..much deeper than the level you are normally in with your wife. One of the major overheads in dentistry is the cost of cleaning and sterilizing everything. Add to that the cost of checking and double checking all the equipment is doing just that. Remember a dentist in Australia is required to maintain the levels of cleanliness that you would expect in a hospital theatre. So you may always be in the poo with the missus, but at least most of the time it won't kill you.

youngbull
QLD, 826 posts
27 May 2014 11:35AM
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Everyone seems to have nothing but bad things to say. After 2 years of looking abroad for dental care I would go to Vietnam.
You read alot of good and bad experiences. So far here I have spent over 15k in the last 5 years on my teeth and they are stuffed.
My last trip cost $7200 and did not even put me under even though I was throwing up in pain.

I hate Australian Dentist due to the way they charge. I understand cost of setup/equip ect but cmon. How are people in this day and age meant to afford thousands on teeth when alot of people including me can not even afford the fuel to go to the beach for a few hrs.

If you end up going abroad Surfer62 I would be curious how it goes? ....

mazdon
1199 posts
27 May 2014 12:10PM
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had 3 wisdom teeth out in vietnam years ago for around $50 US, spent another $50 or so on codeine the week after (may have been a little hooked in the end but it was worth it). think i was quoted $3500 or something in perth before i as heading overseas for a while, and put it off, but was getting bad pain whilst living in hanoi and a friend recommended her local dentist.

the bottom one was maybe a little risky given the risk of severing that nerve in your jaw etc, but the Aus dentists won't guarantee against that happening either. the top ones were well worth it given they are really just a pain killer and plier job from (fading) memory.

not having a crack at aussie dentistry because i'm sure the standards are mega high and then the costs will be for good reason, but my experience in nam was fine and i put it mostly down to using my local friends recommended dentist.

good luck up in the kuta triangle though!

myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
27 May 2014 2:45PM
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so you could save several grand and risk some sort of horrible superbug, or nerve damage and have a dead side to your face, with no recourse whatsoever. sounds legit.
you still have to pay for airfare and accomodation also.

fluride in the mains water is the go

windsurftom
NSW, 401 posts
31 May 2014 9:21AM
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I think going to the vast majority of these places is playing with fire.

Remember that if it doesn't go well you may not be just back to square one, but be a lot worse off in your mouth

Crank3d
7 posts
31 May 2014 6:32PM
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It seems that most posters on this thread will not let reality get in the way of their prejudices.

hargs
QLD, 634 posts
31 May 2014 9:11PM
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The reality is that if you have dental work done in countries like Bali there is a very high chance that you will get inferior treatment, compared to what you would receive in Australia.
You get what you pay for.

kernal
WA, 541 posts
31 May 2014 9:21PM
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so what countrys better thailand vietnam philippines or bali?

snot
NSW, 157 posts
1 Jun 2014 12:52AM
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just spent 20k on 4 implants here in Aus, no frigging way id get them done away from home, had a great dentist, yes it was expensive, but the after care and service is where its at

Crank3d
7 posts
2 Jun 2014 11:05AM
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I suggest that anyone who is thinking of having dental work done overseas try the Trip Adviser forums. There are hundreds of posts from people who have had work done.



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