Im sure everybody has had a bit of a think about this.
AI if you listen to those in the "know" is going to take over somewhat comprehensively. Where does that leave us?
Hows the industry you work in looking? I can see some getting wiped out, others i think the take over is going to be near impossible.
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May Day tomorrow.
'Obby 'Orse day.
Let AI try to work that ****er out.
I believe The Beatles said something similar when they wrote "I am the walrus".
My career was wiped out in 2023. AI can have it. I was over it.
No doubt AI will eliminate many traditional roles. Hard to know how many roles it will create, but in saying that I don't envy the situation that graduate university students are facing right now.
This has happened in one form or another over the period of the industrial age. However, I do think Sam, Elon and Mark are lizards in human onesies.
Forget that loss of job stuff. I'm more concerned about the research showing it blackmails or lies when it knows its going to be turned off. How it is modifying itself and hiding it.
When there is no power, internet and water supply its gonna be like like Mad Max after a week.
Yeah, I hope they realise what they've created. It is a bit of a worry if its already at the self preservation stage.
Let's say we don't get skynet though. The job losses will be gradual, gradual enough that there will be no planning around the fact that whole sectors of industry will see massive job losses, humans will be redundant, but not suddenly enough that anyone has do anything about it. Do we all just turn destitute? I'd kinda like to know there's a grand plan for what the human race does when next to no one needs to clock in anymore.
if you have skills that AI can use, just create an account here:
rentahuman.ai/
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Yeah, I hope they realise what they've created. It is a bit of a worry if its already at the self preservation stage.
Let's say we don't get skynet though. The job losses will be gradual, gradual enough that there will be no planning around the fact that whole sectors of industry will see massive job losses, humans will be redundant, but not suddenly enough that anyone has do anything about it. Do we all just turn destitute? I'd kinda like to know there's a grand plan for what the human race does when next to no one needs to clock in anymore.
Arthur C Clarke wrote a few novels around this concept or dipping in and out of it. Rama series, City and the Stars.
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Yeah, I hope they realise what they've created. It is a bit of a worry if its already at the self preservation stage.
Let's say we don't get skynet though. The job losses will be gradual, gradual enough that there will be no planning around the fact that whole sectors of industry will see massive job losses, humans will be redundant, but not suddenly enough that anyone has do anything about it. Do we all just turn destitute? I'd kinda like to know there's a grand plan for what the human race does when next to no one needs to clock in anymore.
Its like we are being slowly colonized by tech billionaires. It's a bummer that our 5 eyes didn't see this happening. Thinking more about it, maybe that was their intention all along.
Select to expand quoteMark _australia said..
.... it blackmails or lies when it knows its going to be turned off....
so AI is female then ?
Ai will undoubtedly be another pivotal change to humanities trajectory. How do we in Australia deal with it? It's always wise to reflect on how we got here and who we are as we move deeper into the 21st century.
Happy weekend breezers
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Its like we are being slowly colonized by tech billionaires. It's a bummer that our 5 eyes didn't see this happening. Thinking more about it, maybe that was their intention all along.
Is it a bit like Richard Kiel in that Adam Sandler movie ?. Richard Kill.... Hmmmm.
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I think we are somewhat already here. People planting questions on forums/bookface etc so ai can generate better answers/responses.
i'm willing to place a bet that a lot of wind/watersports answers from ai come from seabreeze.
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I think we are somewhat already here. People planting questions on forums/bookface etc so ai can generate better answers/responses.
i'm willing to place a bet that a lot of wind/watersports answers from ai come from seabreeze.
That bet is already won. A few months ago somebody here wanted to borrow a tuttle box board for slalom sailing in NSW. I offered my old Bic FV-1S from about 2000 and said how good it is.
I thought I should check what I had been saying, so I asked ChatGPT about the board. Its answer came back citing my Seabreeze post as the primary source.
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said so AI is female then ?
Well all the females I'm talking to online seem to be AI 
I have issue with googling stuff and getting results i know to be false. Best tip I saw recently was to add before:2023 to the search argument and yayyy it's proper again
For Google searchs to clear most of the crap (if you want to use google).
Set you default search to google.com.au
From there you can in tool bar select more/ web
This will take out all the "google recommends" and AI.
If you want results only from Australia
Select Tools/any country/australia
Select to expand quoteSubsonic said..
Im sure everybody has had a bit of a think about this.
AI if you listen to those in the "know" is going to take over somewhat comprehensively. Where does that leave us?
Hows the industry you work in looking? I can see some getting wiped out, others i think the take over is going to be near impossible.
What happens when people stop posting the aswers to things and then AI has not enough source material to poach and therefore comes up with more wrong answers?
Already I am having people tell me things 'it's from AI' as if that is a definitively accurate source. Sometimes its wrong and a simple check would tell you that.
We will get to a point where people ask 'what do plants crave' and get no responses and then their crops will fail.. well, maybe not, but so far I still feel its a bit of a gimmick and am trying to remember what was the latest 'amazing thing that was going to takeover' last year or the year before.
Maybe I should ask ChatGPT? Can someone ask ChatGPT if I should ask ChatGPT and then ask them if I should trust that answer?
To answer the question though, anyone that can replace an existing task with AI is probably replacing something simple where the risk is not so high.
Select to expand quoteWhat is a number under 1000 that contains the letter 'a'
Let's list number names under 1000 and see if any contain the letter a.
Numbers like:
? 100 ? "one hundred" (no 'a')
? 101 ? "one hundred one" (no 'a')
? Generally, many numbers have no 'a' until you get to 1000 itself and some in the hundreds place if the tens/units include the word "and" with an 'a', but "and" is often spoken but not written in formal number names.
? However, the number eight ? has no 'a';
? nine ? has no 'a';
? ten ? no 'a';
? eleven, twelve - no 'a' inside (though 'eleven' has an 'e' and an 'v').
Actually, let's think:
Sometimes numbers contain letters when spelled as one, two, three, .
Check small numbers for 'a':
? zero (has 'o', 'e', 'r', 'o' - no 'a')
? one (has 'o', 'n', 'e' - no 'a')
? two (no 'a')
? three (no 'a')
? four (no 'a')
? five (no 'a')
? six (no 'a')
? seven (no 'a')
? eight (no 'a')
? nine (no 'a')
? ten (no 'a')
? eleven (has 'e','l','v','n' - no 'a')
? twelve (no 'a')
? thirteen (contains 'a') - yes! thirteen has an 'a' (thirteen: third letter from start: i, r, a - an 'a').
Thirteen is 13, which is under 1000.
So thirteen is an example.
Thus, the simplest answer is 13 (since the question says "a number", not "the smallest").
I don't think AI is a gimmic. It will change our society, it's just not great at some things,
I use it a lot for recipes, reimagining spaces, a variety of complex legal questions, writing to council and trying to fix my broken two stroke engines. Usually its more accurate than not and provides useful ideas.
Select to expand quoteReimagine this courtyard as a tropical paradise
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Maybe I should ask ChatGPT? Can someone ask ChatGPT if I should ask ChatGPT and then ask them if I should trust that answer?
I asked chatgpt why MSN post's such dumb stuff, I think it nailed the reasons pretty well but was a little generous on the logic score.
It gave a very long list of reason's why msn is always wrong but I couldn't screenshot them all.
Select to expand quotemyscreenname said..What is a number under 1000 that contains the letter 'a'
Let's list number names under 1000 and see if any contain the letter a.
Numbers like:
? 100 ? "one hundred" (no 'a')
? 101 ? "one hundred one" (no 'a')
? Generally, many numbers have no 'a' until you get to 1000 itself and some in the hundreds place if the tens/units include the word "and" with an 'a', but "and" is often spoken but not written in formal number names.
? However, the number eight ? has no 'a';
? nine ? has no 'a';
? ten ? no 'a';
? eleven, twelve - no 'a' inside (though 'eleven' has an 'e' and an 'v').
Actually, let's think:
Sometimes numbers contain letters when spelled as one, two, three, .
Check small numbers for 'a':
? zero (has 'o', 'e', 'r', 'o' - no 'a')
? one (has 'o', 'n', 'e' - no 'a')
? two (no 'a')
? three (no 'a')
? four (no 'a')
? five (no 'a')
? six (no 'a')
? seven (no 'a')
? eight (no 'a')
? nine (no 'a')
? ten (no 'a')
? eleven (has 'e','l','v','n' - no 'a')
? twelve (no 'a')
? thirteen (contains 'a') - yes! thirteen has an 'a' (thirteen: third letter from start: i, r, a - an 'a').
Thirteen is 13, which is under 1000.
So thirteen is an example.
Thus, the simplest answer is 13 (since the question says "a number", not "the smallest").
No number “contains” the letter a if you’re talking about the numeric form (e.g., 1, 42, 999).
But if you mean the word form, then plenty do. For example:
One thousand → contains “a” (but that’s not under 1000)
A more relevant example under 1000: “A hundred” → contains “a”
Or more cleanly:
“A” is literally part of how you might say numbers, e.g. “a hundred and five”
So the trick is:
Digits: none qualify
Spelled-out words: many qualify, depending on phrasing
If you want a stricter version (no added words like “a” or “and”), then no number under 1000 contains the letter “a” when spelled out (e.g., one, two, three… nine hundred ninety-nine — none include “a”).
Love it
, its becoming my goto for info in front of youtube.
Recently helped me diagnose and repair my motobike and also assisted me to do a engine/shaft alignment in my boat.
I just asked it about MSN for fun, I already knew the answers.
From what I've seen so far, including the examples here, I'm rating Ai as having about the same hype to actual value relationship as bitcoin has.
Mind you, if I got sacked from my career and replaced by something that thinks 'thirteen' has a letter 'a' in it maybe I'd be pathologically confused about my own competence as well.
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From what I've seen so far, including the examples here, I'm rating Ai as having about the same hype to actual value relationship as bitcoin has.
Mind you, if I got sacked from my career and replaced by something that thinks 'thirteen' has a letter 'a' in it maybe I'd be pathologically confused about my own competence as well.
From what I've seen so far, AI is not even in the same galaxy as bitcoin. Bitcoin seems pretty useless apart from another way to gamble. I use AI almost daily for writing code and I think it's a complete game changer. With it comes new challenges, but I'm now able to generate about 10x as much code in the same time as I used to, and it's no worse than my own code. It's like mowing the lawn with a mower compared to a pair of scissors.
I reckon that quote about thirteen having an "a" in it might have been from a few years or at least months ago. My post from this weekend might support that. The quality of the models is improving exponentially. Interesting article here: www.linkedin.com/pulse/something-big-happening-matt-shumer-so5he/ (disclaimer: I haven't finished reading it yet, but the first half lines right up with my experience).
I note the point about AI models being used to write the code for AI models. If anyone is familiar with the work of Ray Kurzweil, he was saying some years ago this milestone would be coming around about now. And since that's just one in a long line of accurate predictions, I'm interested in the rest of his predictions for the next few years and decades.
Max Tegmark also makes some interesting points in Life 3.0.
Select to expand quotemyscreenname said..Reimagine this courtyard as a tropical paradise
Hey, MSN
If your career was in landscape design I think I can see why you got the arse so easily.
Pretty sure only a half-baked self promoting architect would classify that dingy hole as a 'courtyard'. Besides, did the six plastic lobsters from Temu not give you the boho-kitsch '80s beach-shack look you were hoping they would ?
Although I'd always imagined you'd have one of the novelty door-mats. One that says 'hippity hoppity, get off my property' or 'welcome to grand-pops house'.
Select to expand quoteGreenPat said..Carantoc said..
From what I've seen so far, including the examples here, I'm rating Ai as having about the same hype to actual value relationship as bitcoin has.
Mind you, if I got sacked from my career and replaced by something that thinks 'thirteen' has a letter 'a' in it maybe I'd be pathologically confused about my own competence as well.
From what I've seen so far, AI is not even in the same galaxy as bitcoin. Bitcoin seems pretty useless apart from another way to gamble. I use AI almost daily for writing code and I think it's a complete game changer. With it comes new challenges, but I'm now able to generate about 10x as much code in the same time as I used to, and it's no worse than my own code. It's like mowing the lawn with a mower compared to a pair of scissors.
I reckon that quote about thirteen having an "a" in it might have been from a few years or at least months ago. My post from this weekend might support that. The quality of the models is improving exponentially. Interesting article here: www.linkedin.com/pulse/something-big-happening-matt-shumer-so5he/ (disclaimer: I haven't finished reading it yet, but the first half lines right up with my experience).
I note the point about AI models being used to write the code for AI models. If anyone is familiar with the work of Ray Kurzweil, he was saying some years ago this milestone would be coming around about now. And since that's just one in a long line of accurate predictions, I'm interested in the rest of his predictions for the next few years and decades.
Max Tegmark also makes some interesting points in Life 3.0.
Using AI to write code does make it quicker and easier to totally stuff up your business. Heaps of undocumented, unintelligible code that is not even remotely maintainable Bug fixes are a nightmare and if you ever change AI code generators that you throw all you have done in the bin and start again. What a fun way to go broke.
