Some of the fellow parawing frothers have probably seen Dmitry Evseev's recently posted 2:1 mechanism for the A lines. Here's his first water test:
www.instagram.com/reel/DLNI56wo7Xj/?igsh=MTJicWNxYXh0NnNleg==
Closer look an a quick replication:
www.instagram.com/reel/DLLe-cSSfI3/?igsh=MTBlYjdibnRhYTMyOQ==
I think this is pure genius and may be a standard feature on Parawings moving forward. One pull tab collapses the wing and shortens the A Lines by half.
I will certainly consider adding to my Kanahas.
Thoughts?
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..
Some of the fellow parawing frothers have probably seen Dmitry Evseev's recently posted 2:1 mechanism for the A lines. Here's his first water test:
www.instagram.com/reel/DLNI56wo7Xj/?igsh=MTJicWNxYXh0NnNleg==
Closer look an a quick replication:
www.instagram.com/reel/DLLe-cSSfI3/?igsh=MTBlYjdibnRhYTMyOQ==
I think this is pure genius and may be a standard feature on Parawings moving forward. One pull tab collapses the wing and shortens the A Lines by half.
I will certainly consider adding to my Kanahas.
Thoughts?
This looks like innovation, next they need a genuine depower chicken loop??
I am totally loving this idea. Definitely going to rig it up on one of my D wings and try it. I was also thinking of adding an extra line attached to the ring that slides up the lines. The line would be a loop that sits loosely around all the other lines, perhaps a bungee. As you slide the ring up the front lines it helps to organise the rest of the lines. Might work or could be a bit messy.
Select to expand quoteVenomguy said..This looks like innovation, next they need a genuine depower chicken loop??
Funny you should mention this I demoed a proto wang with a depower setting on the bar. 4th set of lines you can shorten or lengthen. Super stable with no flutter when overpowered. So it may be on the way.
Will be very interesting what we have in 18 months.
Back to the original post. The beauty of this idea is you can retro fit it.
I personally see no use for this. On BRM V1 I always go for a back stall line grab. I just do the opposite and grab the front lines when relaunching to help clear any tangles. V2 basically never tangles and relaunches so easy don't really have to do anything. I don't see adding this kind of complexity actually helping in the long run. Really don't get the hype on this.
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..
I personally see no use for this. On BRM V1 I always go for a back stall line grab. I just do the opposite and grab the front lines when relaunching to help clear any tangles. V2 basically never tangles and relaunches so easy don't really have to do anything. I don't see adding this kind of complexity actually helping in the long run. Really don't get the hype on this.
Some of the newer released parawings have longer lines making stowing the parawing difficult, but I agree with you the original Maliko has no issue and I think these additions just adds more chance of tangles.
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..
I personally see no use for this. On BRM V1 I always go for a back stall line grab. I just do the opposite and grab the front lines when relaunching to help clear any tangles. V2 basically never tangles and relaunches so easy don't really have to do anything. I don't see adding this kind of complexity actually helping in the long run. Really don't get the hype on this.
Yeah I totally get your skepticism, but I think these types of innovations are in their infancy. Whats the #1 rule in brainstorming? No idea is a bad idea until it's flushed out. Let's see if it survives the flush 
anyone know why he slides only 4 of the A-lines, and not all of them? seems like anything to keep them together would be helpful for tangles.
Select to expand quoteKyleT said..
anyone know why he slides only 4 of the A-lines, and not all of them? seems like anything to keep them together would be helpful for tangles.
I'm guessing it is to reduce the friction. Pulling all the lines in requires a bit more strength when there is any power in the PW.
Select to expand quoteKyleT said..
anyone know why he slides only 4 of the A-lines, and not all of them? seems like anything to keep them together would be helpful for tangles.
It's to collapse the parawing under power. It's more challenging if you try to grab all the A-lines - the wing tends to fill back up. Greg (BRM) explained this in one of his tip videos. Grabbing all the B-lines also works. If you want to organize all the lines for stowing you'll want to head downwind to decrease the power in the wing and collect all the lines starting with the C-lines.
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..
I personally see no use for this. On BRM V1 I always go for a back stall line grab. I just do the opposite and grab the front lines when relaunching to help clear any tangles. V2 basically never tangles and relaunches so easy don't really have to do anything. I don't see adding this kind of complexity actually helping in the long run. Really don't get the hype on this.
It probably won't be useful on all Pwings especially not smaller sizes and designs with shorter lines. For Pwings with longer lines it will be very useful though. Line length really is the biggest limiting factor in how big of a Pwing can be practically and easily stowed.
I have a 5.5m D wing and it has very long lines. I am fairly tall at 6'3" and I can only just reach the canopy with my full arm span. Im definitely going to rig it up with this system.
Also the 2:1 line system could open up new designs with longer lines. Longer lines would allow more power generation and more dynamic flying styles such as looping or sining to create power like in regular kitesurfing.
Perhaps this first version isn't perfect but it's exciting to see the innovation and development.
Select to expand quoteYoungbreezy said..foilthegreats said..
I personally see no use for this. On BRM V1 I always go for a back stall line grab. I just do the opposite and grab the front lines when relaunching to help clear any tangles. V2 basically never tangles and relaunches so easy don't really have to do anything. I don't see adding this kind of complexity actually helping in the long run. Really don't get the hype on this.
It probably won't be useful on all Pwings especially not smaller sizes and designs with shorter lines. For Pwings with longer lines it will be very useful though. Line length really is the biggest limiting factor in how big of a Pwing can be practically and easily stowed.
I have a 5.5m D wing and it has very long lines. I am fairly tall at 6'3" and I can only just reach the canopy with my full arm span. Im definitely going to rig it up with this system.
Also the 2:1 line system could open up new designs with longer lines. Longer lines would allow more power generation and more dynamic flying styles such as looping or sining to create power like in regular kitesurfing.
Perhaps this first version isn't perfect but it's exciting to see the innovation and development.
Why not just shorten the lines like BRM V2?
Well as you get into larger pwings the lines need to get longer to accommodate the increased wingspan and be able to keep the correct canopy shape.
Long lines present certain advantages and short lines present certain advantages. The BRM v2's don't all have shorter lines, the Maliko v2 have longer lines for extra power. Maximise the get up and go but sacrificing some handling.
2:1 system has the potential to make longer lines more manageable which could potentially open up new design possibilities and new riding capabilities. Longer lines could allow for more dynamic flying such as looping or sining that could greatly increase the power and overall range.
Obviously it's all theoretical at the moment but I'm loving the innovation and the new possibilities.
