I'm looking to downsize to either the PPC SOAR or Armstrong FG SUP (or to maybe the next new thing from Armstrong). Anyone here own a PPC SOAR? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
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I'm looking to downsize to either the PPC SOAR or Armstrong FG SUP (or to maybe the next new thing from Armstrong). Anyone here own a PPC SOAR? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Saw one on the weekend. Different to the Armstrong FG board. Mast track relatively far back. Not as light as FG board but felt strong. Too much volume and weight in the nose for my taste.
Select to expand quotehilly said..paulweller2 said..
I'm looking to downsize to either the PPC SOAR or Armstrong FG SUP (or to maybe the next new thing from Armstrong). Anyone here own a PPC SOAR? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Saw one on the weekend. Different to the Armstrong FG board. Mast track relatively far back. Not as light as FG board but felt strong. Too much volume and weight in the nose for my taste.
Volume in the nose helps plane quicker and less likely to pitch pole when planning. More noticeable in sinkers where the nose would rise first than anything. New Fone's have followed this method too, as has latest DEEP prone boards.
Select to expand quoteKing Crash said..hilly said..paulweller2 said..
I'm looking to downsize to either the PPC SOAR or Armstrong FG SUP (or to maybe the next new thing from Armstrong). Anyone here own a PPC SOAR? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Saw one on the weekend. Different to the Armstrong FG board. Mast track relatively far back. Not as light as FG board but felt strong. Too much volume and weight in the nose for my taste.
Volume in the nose helps plane quicker and less likely to pitch pole when planning. More noticeable in sinkers where the nose would rise first than anything. New Fone's have followed this method too, as has latest DEEP prone boards.
This was a big supable one 100+ litres. I was looking at it from that point of view.
Select to expand quotehilly said..paulweller2 said..
I'm looking to downsize to either the PPC SOAR or Armstrong FG SUP (or to maybe the next new thing from Armstrong). Anyone here own a PPC SOAR? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Saw one on the weekend. Different to the Armstrong FG board. Mast track relatively far back. Not as light as FG board but felt strong. Too much volume and weight in the nose for my taste.
'Mast track relatively far back'. That doesn't help if you ride Armie??
Select to expand quotemarco said..hilly said..paulweller2 said..
I'm looking to downsize to either the PPC SOAR or Armstrong FG SUP (or to maybe the next new thing from Armstrong). Anyone here own a PPC SOAR? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Saw one on the weekend. Different to the Armstrong FG board. Mast track relatively far back. Not as light as FG board but felt strong. Too much volume and weight in the nose for my taste.
'Mast track relatively far back'. That doesn't help if you ride Armie??
Yep
I ride a few different boards, but I have a PPC Glide 76L Glide that is a great board. Super light, low swing weight, works great with Armie rig (HA and HS foils).
Thanks, all. I ended up going with the 75L FG board. Minimal sinkage for my weight of 82kg.
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Thanks, all. I ended up going with the 75L FG board. Minimal sinkage for my weight of 82kg.
Great board! 
I've been on a prototype of the Soar for many months now and love it. Volume distribution is great for when the wind drops out. I do have to run my Armstrong foils at the very front of the mast box.
I'm a big fan of your music, or is that paulweller1? 
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I've been on a prototype of the Soar for many months now and love it. Volume distribution is great for when the wind drops out. I do have to run my Armstrong foils at the very front of the mast box.
I'm a big fan of your music, or is that paulweller1?
Thanks, simonp! I bought the 75L FG board but am thinking my perfect setup would be something like a 39L FG board and a 83L Soar. I have quite a few questions about the Soar--I'm guessing the prototype is similar to the production model. Would you mind if I ask them here? I haven't been able to get answers from PPC or my local distributor.
Paul Weller is one of the greats--first name that popped into my head when I made an account here, in all honesty. The 'paulweller' account is also me but Seabreeze decided to lock me out--my thinking is that the website protocols probably thought that that account was run by a bot, especially since I'm new here and use a VPN at times. Imagine if Paul was into this wing thing?
Interesting board. Looking at the images of the board online it appears to have quite a tail rocker. Any insight about how it affects mast placement and if there's anything needed to compensate for flying level?
Had a ppc soar 52 litre for the last 7 or 8 months. Also had the Armstrong FG 75 litre which I ended up selling. The soar is an epic board and easy to get on foil in 10 knots plus. The Armstrong FG was also pretty good but felt big in comparison and could maybe foil in 8 knots. So wasn't really worth the extra volume. Ride an Armstrong HA foil all the way forwards on the soar and feels great!.
70-75kg rider
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Had a ppc soar 52 litre for the last 7 or 8 months. Also had the Armstrong FG 75 litre which I ended up selling. The soar is an epic board and easy to get on foil in 10 knots plus. The Armstrong FG was also pretty good but felt big in comparison and could maybe foil in 8 knots. So wasn't really worth the extra volume. Ride an Armstrong HA foil all the way forwards on the soar and feels great!.
70-75kg rider
Thanks! What made you sell the FG and keep the PPC? I've been trying to get one from the sole dealer here in Hawaii but it's not been easy.
I have the PPC Soar 5'5 for the last few months, and I had the prototype for almost a year before that. 106l and I am 105kg so almost neutral buoyancy.
The proto was hand made In NZ by a well known surf shaper here, and was absolutely terrible build quality, seems they almost used surfboard construction, hence ppc swapped it for the factory model when it came out. The proto had a kick tail, the factory flat tail, factory has slightly sharper less rounded edges, factory was almost kg lighter, and you can really feel it too, factory they moved the front footstrap inserts backwards about 10cm, otherwise they are identical as far as I can tell.
I really like the shape, I'm a big guy so need some volume,, it's nice they managed to keep the swing weight down and create a board that feels smaller than it is but still real stable on the water. The construction of the factory model is absolutely bombproof as well as very light, super resistant to scratches and chips.
I was really surprised how much difference the flat tail and harder rails made to takeoff, I ride axis art wings so need a bit of speed and the factory is noticeably quicker on to the plane. Also really surprised how much more Sharp and direct it feels than the proto, or the naish I had before it. I guess the construction is stiffer so despite being almost exactly the same, it rides much better on the foil as well.
My only Complaint is them moving the strap inserts... Why? It means I have the axis foil at the back of the track and use the very front strap inserts and still would like to be a touch more forward,, the old ones were perfect.
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I have the PPC Soar 5'5 for the last few months, and I had the prototype for almost a year before that. 106l and I am 105kg so almost neutral buoyancy.
The proto was hand made In NZ by a well known surf shaper here, and was absolutely terrible build quality, seems they almost used surfboard construction, hence ppc swapped it for the factory model when it came out. The proto had a kick tail, the factory flat tail, factory has slightly sharper less rounded edges, factory was almost kg lighter, and you can really feel it too, factory they moved the front footstrap inserts backwards about 10cm, otherwise they are identical as far as I can tell.
I really like the shape, I'm a big guy so need some volume,, it's nice they managed to keep the swing weight down and create a board that feels smaller than it is but still real stable on the water. The construction of the factory model is absolutely bombproof as well as very light, super resistant to scratches and chips.
I was really surprised how much difference the flat tail and harder rails made to takeoff, I ride axis art wings so need a bit of speed and the factory is noticeably quicker on to the plane. Also really surprised how much more Sharp and direct it feels than the proto, or the naish I had before it. I guess the construction is stiffer so despite being almost exactly the same, it rides much better on the foil as well.
My only Complaint is them moving the strap inserts... Why? It means I have the axis foil at the back of the track and use the very front strap inserts and still would like to be a touch more forward,, the old ones were perfect.
Apologies for my delayed response-this website likes to lock me out every so often. I appreciate the thorough response. I was going to get one for downwinding but I was informed by my local dealer that the board does not work well with Armstrong HA wings. I think the SOAR board looks great, certainly has some great design characteristics.
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Had a ppc soar 52 litre for the last 7 or 8 months. Also had the Armstrong FG 75 litre which I ended up selling. The soar is an epic board and easy to get on foil in 10 knots plus. The Armstrong FG was also pretty good but felt big in comparison and could maybe foil in 8 knots. So wasn't really worth the extra volume. Ride an Armstrong HA foil all the way forwards on the soar and feels great!.
70-75kg rider
I have just started using the 52L Soar and am loving it. Also have the FG 75L which also a great board but love the 4'4 Soar, so far after 3 sessions. I am 85kg and am testing the lowest wind I can use the Soar in. So far it's been great and I may end up selling my FG75L. I also ride a Armie 4'10 39L in 15knot+ but the soar is more volume but am finding I can ride in lower wind easier, so it may become my one main wing board.
