Curious as to what the base material is for all the PW's out so far...he mentions up front that it is coated nylon, but from my decades of coated nylon tent use...its elongation when wet is really a major downside. That coating not only needs to perform really well, but also last...Maybe that is no longer an issue these days, but it makes me wary...
I used to ride a lot of Naish kites, including a wing, but unfortunately, Naish is no longer delivering. It's a bold statement to say, "Best upwind of any para-wing on the market," especially coming from the designer Ewan Jaspan. Naish was a pioneer in kites, SUP, foils, and wings, but every time they lose their edge, it makes you wonder why.
I used to ride a lot of Naish kites, including a wing, but unfortunately, Naish is no longer delivering. It's a bold statement to say, "Best upwind of any para-wing on the market," especially coming from the designer Ewan Jaspan. Naish was a pioneer in kites, SUP, foils, and wings, but every time they lose their edge, it makes you wonder why.
Agree but they are starting to step up their game maybe.
Robby sold Naish a few years ago and it takes a surprisingly long time to do those ownership transitions and move the brand in a new direction. Fingers crossed for them.
I know a team rider on Naish who was pretty open about the fact that the Morph sucked. That same person was raving about the Hatch prototypes and they had tried everything on the market. While a team rider is going to be partial, it was a pretty honest conversation and they were complimentary about other options on the market too. The Hatch is a totally new designer and the design started from scratch.
I think they had that hiccup for a few years after the transition. I've notice the boards, wings and foils have all become more relevant. Bringing in a lot of new designers.
I know a team rider on Naish who was pretty open about the fact that the Morph sucked. That same person was raving about the Hatch prototypes and they had tried everything on the market. While a team rider is going to be partial, it was a pretty honest conversation and they were complimentary about other options on the market too. The Hatch is a totally new designer and the design started from scratch.
Similar experience for me. I know a low level ambassador/competitor that rides other brands and was trying out some new Naish stuff. He was saying their new wings were actually really nice for freestyle.
I'm also a fan of Naish starting their pricing at $800. I'm a bit dismayed about why pricing is going up so quickly with the new stuff that is coming out.
Optimistic news from Naish as being a longtime Naish fan going back to the boxer kite days 20 yrs ago or so,but really since winging took off they're wings have been below par and probably myself have not bought a Naish product since the revolutionary 1st Gen wings 6-8 yrs ago or whenever they came out which were not that good,hoping they make a resurgence as the new PW looks fairly good there in the video once all the marketing dust clears and some real non affiliated independent riders chime in on reviews will see how it goes but definitely a little leary after first morph PW????
1.8m modded Maliko V1 no bueno B ?
I'd love to try it. If I can get close to 90 degrees on my upwind reaches I'd be all over that.
Lightwind, 4.3m review from a month ago:
The video you've been waiting for is here. We got the Hatch into Gav's hands a few weeks back for an honest review. At the time, we didn't have the 2.7 or 1.9 for those super over powered days buy they're in stock now!
Check out his review here:
I am always keen to watch Gav's videos, he confirms it is an excellent option for upwind downwind which I think is the most important aspect of parawinging.
He does complain about the tips collapsing when really overpowered. Is this really a negative or is there some positive to that? On my flow Dwing the tips collapse when you get overpowered but the wing stays controllable. It actually allows you to use it in really overpowered conditions. The tip collapse allows the wing to spill power but most of the leading edge keeps its shape and remains controllable. If a parawing collapses from the center of the leading edge first, like the v1 BRM, it becomes completely uncontrollable.
Now using my 4.2 Dwing in really overpowered conditions is messy and unpleasant with the tips flapping all about but it is manageable. We would all love a solid clean canopy in all conditions but everything has its limits. I think a wing that collapses tips first actually has a higher useable top end than something that collapses from the center of the leading edge first.
Ofcourse these are just my thoughts in general and can't relate them to how the naish hatch performs specifically. ( unless windgenuity wants to send me one to try out
)
I'd really like to ride the 1.9m and just need to know what the wind range is and if it's reasonable at all when the wind is hitting 50 knot gusts? I don't see any published wind ranges tho?
I am always keen to watch Gav's videos, he confirms it is an excellent option for upwind downwind which I think is the most important aspect of parawinging.
He does complain about the tips collapsing when really overpowered. Is this really a negative or is there some positive to that? On my flow Dwing the tips collapse when you get overpowered but the wing stays controllable. It actually allows you to use it in really overpowered conditions. The tip collapse allows the wing to spill power but most of the leading edge keeps its shape and remains controllable. If a parawing collapses from the center of the leading edge first, like the v1 BRM, it becomes completely uncontrollable.
Now using my 4.2 Dwing in really overpowered conditions is messy and unpleasant with the tips flapping all about but it is manageable. We would all love a solid clean canopy in all conditions but everything has its limits. I think a wing that collapses tips first actually has a higher useable top end than something that collapses from the center of the leading edge first.
Ofcourse these are just my thoughts in general and can't relate them to how the naish hatch performs specifically. ( unless windgenuity wants to send me one to try out
)
Dan at Kite Addiction/ Windsurfing Perth has a couple in demo and has been riding them for a few weeks now. You might have to rip it from his hands though ![]()
I am always keen to watch Gav's videos, he confirms it is an excellent option for upwind downwind which I think is the most important aspect of parawinging.
He does complain about the tips collapsing when really overpowered. Is this really a negative or is there some positive to that? On my flow Dwing the tips collapse when you get overpowered but the wing stays controllable. It actually allows you to use it in really overpowered conditions. The tip collapse allows the wing to spill power but most of the leading edge keeps its shape and remains controllable. If a parawing collapses from the center of the leading edge first, like the v1 BRM, it becomes completely uncontrollable.
Now using my 4.2 Dwing in really overpowered conditions is messy and unpleasant with the tips flapping all about but it is manageable. We would all love a solid clean canopy in all conditions but everything has its limits. I think a wing that collapses tips first actually has a higher useable top end than something that collapses from the center of the leading edge first.
Ofcourse these are just my thoughts in general and can't relate them to how the naish hatch performs specifically. ( unless windgenuity wants to send me one to try out
)
I think that all kind of canopy collapsing is detrimental to a good high end. A parawing like the Pocket rocket or Frigate can when overpowered be pushed to the side of the wind window keeping a solid canopy shape where it just pulls you better upwind instead, while a collapsing canopy sinks back in the wind window, exposing the parawing to more wind, uncomfortably making power go up and down and dragging you downwind. I've owned the D-wing, Ka'a and Frigate and the the high end of the Frigate is waaay better both with regards to the upwind angle and overall comfort.