Have any of you guys/girls who have used a Naish 85l Carbon Ultra also tried other 85l boards and do they react similar when in the water for a given volume. What I mean is.....
I am 87kg (with wetsuit etc) and the 85l Naish Carbon Ultra just sinks very slightly below the waterline on me when it is choppy and struggles to release easily (getting it clear of the waterline) before planing to release the foil.
I know the Naish Ultra has limited volume in the nose and I wondered if other 85l boards would release better and not create the issue in chop, or if it was simply because my weight is equal too (or just marginally above) the board volume?
I love the reduced volume in the air (coming down from a 95l) but the release in chop is annoying and being on a HA foil I need to create glide across the water rather than simply pumping the foil up, so need that movement of the board across the water to gain speed before lifting.
Is it a simply a weight v board volume issue, or is it worth looking at other 85l boards?
Thanks
Select to expand quoteMilesH said..
Have any of you guys/girls who have used a Naish 85l Carbon Ultra also tried other 85l boards and do they react similar when in the water for a given volume. What I mean is.....
I am 87kg (with wetsuit etc) and the 85l Naish Carbon Ultra just sinks very slightly below the waterline on me when it is choppy and struggles to release easily (getting it clear of the waterline) before planing to release the foil.
I know the Naish Ultra has limited volume in the nose and I wondered if other 85l boards would release better and not create the issue in chop, or if it was simply because my weight is equal too (or just marginally above) the board volume?
I love the reduced volume in the air (coming down from a 95l) but the release in chop is annoying and being on a HA foil I need to create glide across the water rather than simply pumping the foil up, so need that movement of the board across the water to gain speed before lifting.
Is it a simply a weight v board volume issue, or is it worth looking at other 85l boards?
Thanks
Narrower will be better.
Select to expand quotehilly said..MilesH said..
Have any of you guys/girls who have used a Naish 85l Carbon Ultra also tried other 85l boards and do they react similar when in the water for a given volume. What I mean is.....
I am 87kg (with wetsuit etc) and the 85l Naish Carbon Ultra just sinks very slightly below the waterline on me when it is choppy and struggles to release easily (getting it clear of the waterline) before planing to release the foil.
I know the Naish Ultra has limited volume in the nose and I wondered if other 85l boards would release better and not create the issue in chop, or if it was simply because my weight is equal too (or just marginally above) the board volume?
I love the reduced volume in the air (coming down from a 95l) but the release in chop is annoying and being on a HA foil I need to create glide across the water rather than simply pumping the foil up, so need that movement of the board across the water to gain speed before lifting.
Is it a simply a weight v board volume issue, or is it worth looking at other 85l boards?
Thanks
Narrower will be better.
Are you saying that the same board but say 24 wide instead of 26, with the lost volume from the reduced width added to the depth of the board will be better?
Having just dropped down from an 85L Hover to a 72L Hover, both with similar dimensional 'stats'
the 72L is 5"1 long
the 85 is 5"2 long
the 72 is 24' wide
the 85 is 26' wide
the rocker line of the 72L is similar to the 85L in the front third, But, completely flat in the rear 2/3's , as opposed to the 85L which has the rear chamfered up for the last eight inches, So the flat planing area of the 72L is longer and larger than the 85L
Also even though the 72L is narrower than the 85L, the planing width of the 72L is virtually the same as the 85L.
For my weight at 73K, the 85L is dead easy to stand up on in small wavelets and chop, the 72L is OK ish,
the 85L is Ok ish to stand up on in open sea, big bomb crater mess, whereas the 72L is hard work, But, still the 72L gets up to planing speed quicker!
Conclusion, lower volume doesn't allow for tiredness, or mistakes, but is more lively.
length of planing surface is more important than I realised,
The surf style nose of the Naish is a blessing and a curse, the slightly wider nose of the 2024 models is an advantage.
Hope some of that helps!
Select to expand quoteMilesH said..hilly said..MilesH said..
Have any of you guys/girls who have used a Naish 85l Carbon Ultra also tried other 85l boards and do they react similar when in the water for a given volume. What I mean is.....
I am 87kg (with wetsuit etc) and the 85l Naish Carbon Ultra just sinks very slightly below the waterline on me when it is choppy and struggles to release easily (getting it clear of the waterline) before planing to release the foil.
I know the Naish Ultra has limited volume in the nose and I wondered if other 85l boards would release better and not create the issue in chop, or if it was simply because my weight is equal too (or just marginally above) the board volume?
I love the reduced volume in the air (coming down from a 95l) but the release in chop is annoying and being on a HA foil I need to create glide across the water rather than simply pumping the foil up, so need that movement of the board across the water to gain speed before lifting.
Is it a simply a weight v board volume issue, or is it worth looking at other 85l boards?
Thanks
Narrower will be better.
Are you saying that the same board but say 24 wide instead of 26, with the lost volume from the reduced width added to the depth of the board will be better?
You asked about better release. A narrow board will always release better than a wide board same volume. Especially if the width is in the tail eg Naish design. Try a board with a narrow tail and width in the nose eg Kalama E3.
I think you will find that the 85L is overstated too, I've seen comparisons of other 85L boards beside the Hover, with identical dimensions, and the fact the hover is pinched off at the nose and tail means it is almost impossible that they are the stated volumes, unless the other boards are over volume. Was very common for windsurf boards to be a lot different to the advertised volume for a long time.
I'm currently having a custom "sinker" board built and ride in some messy wind chop conditions so have requested longer and narrower and parallel rails through centre, all to help with getting on the foil in these conditions.
Thanks all, really helpful. And interesting comments about the Naish board being overstated for its volume.
My take away from this is, if I want to stick with a similar volume (85l) I should be looking for a narrower board, with a flat underside at the back (unlike the Naish which has a kick tail), parallel rails and width in the nose.
Other than the new Naish 82l board which has some of these characteristics, has anyone found an 85l board with the above characteristics? I was looking at the Takoon Glide V2, but it is 90l and I am not really wanting to add volume back in.....
