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Moses 633

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Created by howe > 9 months ago, 1 Dec 2021
howe
QLD, 33 posts
1 Dec 2021 4:36PM
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Kite foiling with a Moses 633 and 91 cm mast, weigh 65 kg, could I drop it onto a wing board with suitable displacement and go from there.

warwickl
NSW, 2353 posts
1 Dec 2021 9:53PM
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Yes

Dspace
VIC, 320 posts
1 Dec 2021 10:06PM
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You could but it's definitely not ideal for winging. I've been kitefoiling with the 633/483 for almost 4 years and wouldn't even consider it for winging (very low aspect "shovel" design.

This is a quote from someone else on the kite forum who actually tried it for winging. Pretty much sums it up. Also be aware that the 91cm Moses kite foil mast isn't meant for the larger size wing foils. Good luck!





"I agree that total wing area is very misleading for its ability to provide lift. I have also winged very powered on my 633 and of the 20-30 wings I've ridden, I would rate it the absolute worst. I've even ridden the 695 on kite fuse and preferred it over the 633 for winging. The 633 was by far my favorite wing for kite foiling."




Alysum
NSW, 1030 posts
1 Dec 2021 11:52PM
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No it's way too small. Maybe once you're experienced and with a big hand wing. But not really worth it at least for learning.

warwickl
NSW, 2353 posts
2 Dec 2021 6:40AM
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Alysum said..
No it's way too small. Maybe once you're experienced and with a big hand wing. But not really worth it at least for learning.


He is only 65kg

howe
QLD, 33 posts
2 Dec 2021 8:50AM
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Thanks for the comments guys, its very interesting to hear another persons perspective. I just thought that the 633 is ultra forgiving on the kite and has a great glide under zero power from the kite.Starting may be the biggest issue but. Back to my old windsurfer days with a sinker ha ha .

alfromyyz
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6 Jan 2022 10:16PM
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howe said..
Thanks for the comments guys, its very interesting to hear another persons perspective. I just thought that the 633 is ultra forgiving on the kite and has a great glide under zero power from the kite.Starting may be the biggest issue but. Back to my old windsurfer days with a sinker ha ha .


Slightly off topic but how is the 91cm kite mast / fuselage with the larger wings (1100 for example) my local shop says that mast isn't rated for winging - and yes an 82 or 92 is better - but anyone winging with the 91 cm mast - opinions? I'm 88 kg and ride the 633 and 679 wings kiting. Know they are m8 bolts, but sabfoil sells bushings to adapt from m6. thx.

JakeSki
26 posts
14 Jan 2022 12:52AM
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alfromyyz said..

howe said..
Thanks for the comments guys, its very interesting to hear another persons perspective. I just thought that the 633 is ultra forgiving on the kite and has a great glide under zero power from the kite.Starting may be the biggest issue but. Back to my old windsurfer days with a sinker ha ha .



Slightly off topic but how is the 91cm kite mast / fuselage with the larger wings (1100 for example) my local shop says that mast isn't rated for winging - and yes an 82 or 92 is better - but anyone winging with the 91 cm mast - opinions? I'm 88 kg and ride the 633 and 679 wings kiting. Know they are m8 bolts, but sabfoil sells bushings to adapt from m6. thx.


Hey dude, yeah the 91 mast is too thin to go winging on this, that's why they've released the 92. I've got both in store and the 92 is noticeably sturdier, I wouldn't risk it. On the flip side you can use the 92 for both wing and kite so it's all good. Hope this helps :)

nayy
25 posts
14 Jan 2022 7:03AM
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probably possible when there is wind (>16 kn)... but the standard mast will nog be stiff enough...at 67 kg we use the W1100 for light wind... W950 when wind >15 kn.

nayy



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