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Created by Sputnik11 > 9 months ago, 16 Oct 2021
Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
16 Oct 2021 6:54PM
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Put a new, smaller front foil on today. I was surprised how easily it lifted out of the water. It felt a bit twitchy, and faster. But the key learning was I was constantly breaching. I didn't change the rear foil, so I am guessing I need something smaller to better compliment the front foil.

Got me wondering, what are all the things the effect the lift characteristics of the foil? The rear foil may not be the thing. What else impacts the lift?

Pacey
WA, 525 posts
16 Oct 2021 8:40PM
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Other than area and stabiliser angle, factors affecting initial lift are the angle of incidence of the foil and foil camber (i.e. how asymmetrical the foil profile is)

greg87foil
145 posts
18 Oct 2021 5:30AM
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From which foil to which foil did you go?

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
18 Oct 2021 6:19AM
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And to which foil did you go to? It is a HA type wing ?

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
19 Oct 2021 12:15AM
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eppo said..
And to which foil did you go to? It is a HA type wing ?

These are the culprits.

Nov8
QLD, 48 posts
20 Oct 2021 2:26PM
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Lots of variables to consider to reduce the tendency to breach on take-off - move mast back, smaller stabiliser, add a shim to the stabiliser to reduce the downforce it creates (e.g. downforce increases angle of incidence of the front foil and hence lift), shorter fuselage reduces the downforce from the stabiliser. The 90cm wing you have pictured is high aspect and will tolerate higher speeds - the Axis website describes it as intermediate/advanced so it will be twitchy and more sensitive to rider input, but with the other kit properly tweaked and your feet positioned relative to the centre of lift not prone to excessive breaching.

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
20 Oct 2021 9:52PM
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Nov8 said..
Lots of variables to consider to reduce the tendency to breach on take-off - move mast back, smaller stabiliser, add a shim to the stabiliser to reduce the downforce it creates (e.g. downforce increases angle of incidence of the front foil and hence lift), shorter fuselage reduces the downforce from the stabiliser. The 90cm wing you have pictured is high aspect and will tolerate higher speeds - the Axis website describes it as intermediate/advanced so it will be twitchy and more sensitive to rider input, but with the other kit properly tweaked and your feet positioned relative to the centre of lift not prone to excessive breaching.


Nice, thanks for the comprehensive advice. I'd put myself in the intermediate bucket. Will pull the mast track back. Maybe get a smaller stabiliser and get out on it more to adjust to the feel.



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