Have a brain injury. Feel super uncomfortable when i get jolted super hard. Getting tackled, etc. Anyway what are the forces of the jolts you get from wind gusts when winging? I have heard from.a mate that kites that the jolts from that would be too much for me but what about the wing? Super weird question I understand and if you respond thank you in advance for the response. I can handle shortboarding and duckdiving if that's anything to go by.
I feel that I can control gusts far more easily using a wing compared to a kite. I'm thinking that is because you can sheet in far quicker with a wing and without delay, not to mention less momentum to deal with. Kites can be tricky in super gusty conditions, but wings are less so. I find bending the front arm to depower the wing to be super effective in controlling gusts.
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Have a brain injury. Feel super uncomfortable when i get jolted super hard. Getting tackled, etc. Anyway what are the forces of the jolts you get from wind gusts when winging? I have heard from.a mate that kites that the jolts from that would be too much for me but what about the wing? Super weird question I understand and if you respond thank you in advance for the response. I can handle shortboarding and duckdiving if that's anything to go by.
Do not think the wing will be a problem at all.Our "sails" are the gentlest and most balanced of all boardsailing disciplines.Low power,symmetrycal,direct control...
Falls from up on foil would worry me more ,but if you can take surfing falls and getting tumbled by a wave then you should be good too.
Overall it is an easy on the body sport unless you want to push it.
If there are lessons available just sign up and try it without investing too much.
Good luck!.
Select to expand quotemcrt said..lessupsolutions said..
Have a brain injury. Feel super uncomfortable when i get jolted super hard. Getting tackled, etc. Anyway what are the forces of the jolts you get from wind gusts when winging? I have heard from.a mate that kites that the jolts from that would be too much for me but what about the wing? Super weird question I understand and if you respond thank you in advance for the response. I can handle shortboarding and duckdiving if that's anything to go by.
Do not think the wing will be a problem at all.Our "sails" are the gentlest and most balanced of all boardsailing disciplines.Low power,symmetrycal,direct control...
Falls from up on foil would worry me more ,but if you can take surfing falls and getting tumbled by a wave then you should be good too.
Overall it is an easy on the body sport unless you want to push it.
If there are lessons available just sign up and try it without investing too much.
Good luck!.
Only want to use it in gentle conditions and go low speeds. Yeah the whiplash from high speeds on a foil is what has put me of foilboarding for all these years, I could cop the odd one okay (recovering now from broken ribs falling off at kirra during the floods swell), but didn't want to cop too many learning to fpil without a wing. From what I'm seeing in the wingfoil videos you fall off at super low speeds?
A good fall from a surfboard will still put me in disney land, but it has to be a really really good one.
From my experience, I have very knackered knees. I feel winging is more comfortable than windsurfing, gusts kiting I do not find an issue. with the wing it's your arms Controlling the gusts so very occasionally I will get a yank of the wing, if it's too much you let go.
what would concern me more was the wipeouts, you are traveling at speed and can hit the water hard. Much like a tackle.
Select to expand quotelessupsolutions said..mcrt said..lessupsolutions said..
Have a brain injury. Feel super uncomfortable when i get jolted super hard. Getting tackled, etc. Anyway what are the forces of the jolts you get from wind gusts when winging? I have heard from.a mate that kites that the jolts from that would be too much for me but what about the wing? Super weird question I understand and if you respond thank you in advance for the response. I can handle shortboarding and duckdiving if that's anything to go by.
Do not think the wing will be a problem at all.Our "sails" are the gentlest and most balanced of all boardsailing disciplines.Low power,symmetrycal,direct control...
Falls from up on foil would worry me more ,but if you can take surfing falls and getting tumbled by a wave then you should be good too.
Overall it is an easy on the body sport unless you want to push it.
If there are lessons available just sign up and try it without investing too much.
Good luck!.
Only want to use it in gentle conditions and go low speeds. Yeah the whiplash from high speeds on a foil is what has put me of foilboarding for all these years, I could cop the odd one okay (recovering now from broken ribs falling off at kirra during the floods swell), but didn't want to cop too many learning to fpil without a wing. From what I'm seeing in the wingfoil videos you fall off at super low speeds?
A good fall from a surfboard will still put me in disney land, but it has to be a really really good one.
Yes ,wingfoiling is slow to moderate speeds unless you go for really small foils ( 1000cm2 and below).
With a 1800cm2 foil you would be pottering about at 7 to 14kt very generally speaking.
I would go for a 75cm mast max (maybe even 65cm for first sessions only) so you do not fall from too high.
A lightweight board around 6feet would let you splash down gently where a shorter board would dig the nose and throw you.
A Naish Ultra 110l would be my choice.
Even a 125l if you are big.
Have not tried the Gofoils but i have seen vids of incredibly forgiving behaviour in tip breaches and full frontal breaches with their GT line.
Helmet will help and impact vest. Choose a slow foilwing to reduce crash forces i.e low aspect wing. The windwing itself is unlikely to jolt you much as you can easily depower it. Secure the windwing to your impact vest or waist rather than having the lead on your wrist.
Select to expand quotelessupsolutions said..mcrt said..lessupsolutions said..
Have a brain injury. Feel super uncomfortable when i get jolted super hard. Getting tackled, etc. Anyway what are the forces of the jolts you get from wind gusts when winging? I have heard from.a mate that kites that the jolts from that would be too much for me but what about the wing? Super weird question I understand and if you respond thank you in advance for the response. I can handle shortboarding and duckdiving if that's anything to go by.
Do not think the wing will be a problem at all.Our "sails" are the gentlest and most balanced of all boardsailing disciplines.Low power,symmetrycal,direct control...
Falls from up on foil would worry me more ,but if you can take surfing falls and getting tumbled by a wave then you should be good too.
Overall it is an easy on the body sport unless you want to push it.
If there are lessons available just sign up and try it without investing too much.
Good luck!.
Only want to use it in gentle conditions and go low speeds. Yeah the whiplash from high speeds on a foil is what has put me of foilboarding for all these years, I could cop the odd one okay (recovering now from broken ribs falling off at kirra during the floods swell), but didn't want to cop too many learning to fpil without a wing. From what I'm seeing in the wingfoil videos you fall off at super low speeds?
A good fall from a surfboard will still put me in disney land, but it has to be a really really good one.
Howdy,
When beginning you may fall slow but after that if falls occur it does tend to be at speed. Unlike surfing you are already at a height from the water so that extra falling momentum, even if you just fall backwards on your back, is a lot. I wouldn't have a lot of crashes in wing sessions but if I do I wouldn't describe them as slow and gentle :-) I would compare them to dropping in on a large wave when surfing, nose-diving and falling forward in front of the wave, sometimes they are ok, sometimes they would knock ya.
Obviously you can get better at falling, use the wing, etc but its the ones you don't expect that get ya.
I would still give it a go though, its is very controlled and you can dictate a lot of what you want to do. Just trust me in that once you get better you will want to go faster and harder ;-)
In 12-15kn winds, even with a big 2400 foil going relatively slowly compared to others, i've still picked up enough speed that falling from a height above the water has given me some good jolts/impacts to the back and head when I've hit the water. Some of the "best" crashes have been from foil breaches or hitting fish in the lake - foil breeches stopped happening in those conditions once i got better, but the fish thing i can't control :-(
Winging is by far the most mellow of the "high" wind watersports. I think you would be fine theres no real abrupt on/off power changes like in windsurfing, or possibly kiting in gusty conditions.
As others have said it's the foil breaches that can whip you over the front would be my concern, having said that on a slower foil in flatter water should be ok.
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In 12-15kn winds, even with a big 2400 foil going relatively slowly compared to others, i've still picked up enough speed that falling from a height above the water has given me some good jolts/impacts to the back and head when I've hit the water. Some of the "best" crashes have been from foil breaches or hitting fish in the lake - foil breeches stopped happening in those conditions once i got better, but the fish thing i can't control :-(Select to expand quoteUisceBeatha said..lessupsolutions said..mcrt said..lessupsolutions said..
Have a brain injury. Feel super uncomfortable when i get jolted super hard. Getting tackled, etc. Anyway what are the forces of the jolts you get from wind gusts when winging? I have heard from.a mate that kites that the jolts from that would be too much for me but what about the wing? Super weird question I understand and if you respond thank you in advance for the response. I can handle shortboarding and duckdiving if that's anything to go by.
Do not think the wing will be a problem at all.Our "sails" are the gentlest and most balanced of all boardsailing disciplines.Low power,symmetrycal,direct control...
Falls from up on foil would worry me more ,but if you can take surfing falls and getting tumbled by a wave then you should be good too.
Overall it is an easy on the body sport unless you want to push it.
If there are lessons available just sign up and try it without investing too much.
Good luck!.
Only want to use it in gentle conditions and go low speeds. Yeah the whiplash from high speeds on a foil is what has put me of foilboarding for all these years, I could cop the odd one okay (recovering now from broken ribs falling off at kirra during the floods swell), but didn't want to cop too many learning to fpil without a wing. From what I'm seeing in the wingfoil videos you fall off at super low speeds?
A good fall from a surfboard will still put me in disney land, but it has to be a really really good one.
Howdy,
When beginning you may fall slow but after that if falls occur it does tend to be at speed. Unlike surfing you are already at a height from the water so that extra falling momentum, even if you just fall backwards on your back, is a lot. I wouldn't have a lot of crashes in wing sessions but if I do I wouldn't describe them as slow and gentle :-) I would compare them to dropping in on a large wave when surfing, nose-diving and falling forward in front of the wave, sometimes they are ok, sometimes they would knock ya.
Obviously you can get better at falling, use the wing, etc but its the ones you don't expect that get ya.
I would still give it a go though, its is very controlled and you can dictate a lot of what you want to do. Just trust me in that once you get better you will want to go faster and harder ;-)
I'm still recovering from broken ribs surfing kitta 2 months ago, falling with a ton of speed, bit think I may have either hit my board or debris in thr water. Felt like getting concrete. Was about 4 foot. A few days later I thought, if that was my head I would be in a very ordinary state now. Also however, I am very very good at protecting my head when falling. When o broke the ribs I had my arm out to break the surface tension so my head didn't cop the brunt, which ended up protecting my head. Can you control the falls on the foil as easily as on a sirfboard/sup? Also, when you crash once you have a bit of speed, are you going as fast as a proje foiler or faster?
sounds like a bad idea for you. learning to foil involves lots of unexpected/awkward crashes. even at slow speeds you are going 10-15mph and falling from standing 2-3ft above the water.
I would watch this video of one of the posters here learning to dockstart. He's going under 5mph, but these are the types of falls that happen when learning to foil. Watch the vid and decide for yourself whether your brain can handle these types of crashes.
I've felt like I've had whiplash from a few low speed falls, and that's even wearing a helmet and impact vest. Gusts on the wing are not the problem, it's the water.
Helmets and impact vests make high speed crashes with the water worse. The increased mass and drag mean you hit harder and stop faster. They're really only useful for impacts to hard things like boards and foils. I stopped wearing a helmet kite foiling because of the frequent neck strains from high speed crashes.
Wing foils are generally so slow that the risk of whiplash injuries is very low.
What is a problem is that everything is tied to you with a leash so the risk of hitting, or being hit, by equipment is relatively high. Most of the impacts are low speed but it can be really annoying having stuff bumping and bouncing off you after a crash.
By far the most damaging impacts I have found are getting pitched off a wave and hitting the leading edge of the wing, or having a wrist jarred from being stuck in a handle. There's pictures on here somewhere of a guy with a broken wrist and I have had a couple of wrist damaging crashes that took weeks to get better.
One particularly unpleasant crash is the stalled foil backflip. Things get a bit slow and crossed up during a turn and the foil rises up high and you get pitched off backwards. The resulting full body back flop is not pleasant.
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sounds like a bad idea for you. learning to foil involves lots of unexpected/awkward crashes. even at slow speeds you are going 10-15mph and falling from standing 2-3ft above the water.
I would watch this video of one of the posters here learning to dockstart. He's going under 5mph, but these are the types of falls that happen when learning to foil. Watch the vid and decide for yourself whether your brain can handle these types of crashes.
It might be. I haven't fliled, and it looks fun, but I really want to do it so I don't have to paddle. Would the wing work with a sup like to be able to tow back out to waves instead of paddling?
