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GoFoil V2 mast

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Created by hilly > 9 months ago, 5 Dec 2022
hilly
WA, 7872 posts
5 Dec 2022 10:31AM
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Interesting from AA on FB:

Version 2 mast
Still very stiff, smoother, faster, pumps better
Randy Royse is really liking the new Version 2 Go Foil mast! It still has the same connections so all of your Go Foil wings will fit this mast.
1)The new mast has a different foil section that is smoother and faster but is still very stiff like our regular mast.
2)The fuselage is shifted forward to add in some pumping and a drive forward feeling while pumping. This gives you a bit more lift and time to do transitions while winging.
3)There are 8 holes drilled into the base plate now so you have more options on where to position your mast on your board.
Here is a text after he rode it the first day.
"Did a light wind Kihei run today. The 75cm v2 mast .worked awesome. Used the pnl185, 14.5L tail. Got lifted easily, and surfed really well. Flew most of the way. Couldn't have done that with my old mast 31.5. STOKED!! " Randy Royse

baldy123
WA, 447 posts
5 Dec 2022 4:09PM
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Dylan has a V2 mast with him down in Margs currently. Get a demo and tell us all how it rides on the wing ding. Apparently hard to give back when you ride one. I thought GoFoil might go with a Matt finish to match the new wings, but still seems to be glossy. The 75cm size option is also making a come back. Mast comes complete with a fuselage attached.

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
6 Dec 2022 9:17AM
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baldy123 said..
Dylan has a V2 mast with him down in Margs currently. Get a demo and tell us all how it rides on the wing ding. Apparently hard to give back when you ride one. I thought GoFoil might go with a Matt finish to match the new wings, but still seems to be glossy. The 75cm size option is also making a come back. Mast comes complete with a fuselage attached.


Hope to try it today. Saw it yesterday, fuse is way forward. Interesting.

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
6 Dec 2022 10:51PM
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Rode it today. Was hoping it was not that much better. Bugger. Does what they say. expensive demo.

NordRoi
668 posts
6 Dec 2022 11:48PM
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So who drove that requirements? Was it the Pump Foiler that wanted to pump further...or the surfer who wanted to link more waves with less effort? (front wing moved fwd) This doesn't seem to be a wing requirements? bear with me, this is what I think when moving a front wing further up will provide but I have to admit I do not have a lot of knowledge in foil building.

jondrums
186 posts
7 Dec 2022 2:26AM
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It doesn't make any sense at all that moving the front wing further ahead of the mast can effect the pumping performance. Seems like it would only effect the turning and pivot looseness. I'm riding both axis normal and advanced fuses and am quite familiar with the difference in feeling and I don't think I could possibly detect any difference while pumping

AnyBoard
NSW, 376 posts
7 Dec 2022 6:37AM
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My 24 year old son has the new mast. He prones at a very high level and downwinds. He tried to get me to try the mast because he says it is an amazing step up and he won't be going back. Better turning and better pump with butter smoothness. I didn't want the perception adjustment hilly just got as I new if I rode it I would have to buy it and after watching him on it, it just looked right. I have a downwind board to pay for so it will have to wait for now.

interesting that some brands think moving the front foil closer to the mast is the go and my son swears gofoil moving it forward have it right. He didn't think it would be better at all let alone that much better.



eppo
WA, 9688 posts
7 Dec 2022 5:22AM
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One concern a local gonfoil rider has was his large weight (big boy) across this extra span increasing yaw - obviously this is not concern if Hilly concludes it was an expensive demo lol. He does like to race and go fast although? Apparently they won't be making anymore of the old mast so obviously gonfoil know it's better. Really impressed with the build quality of this gear hey.

DWF
707 posts
7 Dec 2022 6:10AM
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NordRoi said..
So who drove that requirements?


Dave Kalama has been riding the mast since July.

DWF
707 posts
7 Dec 2022 6:13AM
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jondrums said..
It doesn't make any sense at all that moving the front wing further ahead of the mast can affect the pumping performance. Seems like it would only effect the turning and pivot looseness. I'm riding both axis normal and advanced fuses and am quite familiar with the difference in feeling and I don't think I could possibly detect any difference while pumping


It's an upside down world. You just have to try one to believe it.

NordRoi
668 posts
7 Dec 2022 6:54AM
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BTW, I'm not saying it's a bad decision, I really wonder from where does it come from..who asked that modification/improvement call ti whatever you want. So if it doesn't improve pumping, what does is the improvement? I assume furthey from the front wing will stiffened up the ride a bit on he yaw axis?

DWF
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7 Dec 2022 7:14AM
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NordRoi said..
BTW, I'm not saying it's a bad decision, I really wonder from where does it come from..who asked that modification/improvement call i what ever you want. So if it doesn't improve pumping, what does is the improvement? I assume furthey from the front wing will stiffened up the ride a bit on he yaw axis?


Alex told me it improves forward projection with each pump. He told me this after I demoed his gear. So I had no prior influence during the demo. After the demo, I told him it was the best pumping on foil I'd ever done. That's when he told me the whole story. How it was prototyped and that Dave had been on it since July.

NordRoi
668 posts
7 Dec 2022 7:43AM
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So it does improve pumping!! so. downwinders has a big influence on the R&D!

burchas
338 posts
7 Dec 2022 8:01AM
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NordRoi said..
So it does improve pumping!! so. downwinders has a big influence on the R&D!


That should be an easy test to conduct... Fanboys excluded of course, they always find an extra gear when it comes to new shiny product
I should have hands on soon.

AnyBoard
NSW, 376 posts
7 Dec 2022 12:15PM
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Some of the comments and assumptions from the arm chair designers are too funny.

Thatspec
440 posts
7 Dec 2022 3:03PM
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Did anyone measure thickness down near the fuse? Best I can measure the 'old' mast is 14.5mm.

baldy123
WA, 447 posts
7 Dec 2022 9:57PM
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Thanks for the feedback Hilly. I'd best not try one then! It's interesting how GoFoil has pushed their fuse forward whilst Axis is pulling it back.
What length mast are GoFoil riders choosing for Wing and Sup these days? I'm on the old 83cm currently. I think I'd pick the 80cm on the V2 when the time comes. Never liked a 90cm and found 75cm too short for wing.

windwakerider
WA, 51 posts
8 Dec 2022 2:37AM
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So, how much further forward is it? Pics? Did you guys sign an NDA?

baldy123
WA, 447 posts
8 Dec 2022 6:27AM
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08.00 min in this video.
I didn't measure difference, best guess around 30mm.

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
8 Dec 2022 6:30AM
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baldy123 said..
Thanks for the feedback Hilly. I'd best not try one then! It's interesting how GoFoil has pushed their fuse forward whilst Axis is pulling it back.
What length mast are GoFoil riders choosing for Wing and Sup these days? I'm on the old 83cm currently. I think I'd pick the 80cm on the V2 when the time comes. Never liked a 90cm and found 75cm too short for wing.


I will go 80.

DWF
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8 Dec 2022 8:06AM
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windwakerider said..
So, how much further forward is it? Pics? Did you guys sign an NDA?



The extra holes in the base plate to improve board compatibility, are spaced at 35mm forward. I think the mast was moved approximately 35mm.

Comparing the mast location to the Axis standard fuse, the new GoFoil mast is -40 back. So 80 mm back from an Axis advanced +40 fuse.

I've never owned or ridden the GoFoil v1.5 mast, so can't compare to my v2 mast.

DWF
707 posts
9 Dec 2022 2:18AM
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the new mast. my calipers say 14.88 thick on my 80cm mast

Now somebody tell me the distance on the v1.5

Grantmac
2317 posts
9 Dec 2022 6:02AM
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Nothing on their website, any clue on pricing?

DWF
707 posts
9 Dec 2022 6:48AM
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It was same price when I bought mine.

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
9 Dec 2022 8:09AM
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Nothing on their website, any clue on pricing?


Dylan Indicated a modest increase of about $100 available in January. I would guess later though, as everything seems to be these days.

Grantmac
2317 posts
9 Dec 2022 8:14AM
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That's not awful given how much other HM masts are.
Is it constant chord constant thickness like the originals?

DWF
707 posts
9 Dec 2022 8:25AM
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yes, constant chord

J_foil
NSW, 128 posts
9 Dec 2022 4:31PM
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DWF said..


the new mast. my calipers say 14.88 thick on my 80cm mast

Now somebody tell me the distance on the v1.5


v1.5:
Lead = 45mm
Chord = 135mm

Is V2 mast same chord?
I guess the comparative dim is CL mast to leading edge of the fuse
135/2 + 45 = 112.5mm




Leighbreeze
WA, 556 posts
10 Dec 2022 12:20AM
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hilly said..
Rode it today. Was hoping it was not that much better. Bugger. Does what they say. expensive demo.


I'm trying to work out what size V2 80 or 90?
Mainly for winging mainly ocean.

MidAtlanticFoil
818 posts
10 Dec 2022 12:46AM
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Not that anyone asked, but the measurement on an Armstrong performance mast from front of mast to trailing edge of a 725 wing is 4.25 inches (10.8 cm).

jondrums
186 posts
10 Dec 2022 3:59AM
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did the mast foil profile change? Any chance that reduced drag is the big difference in pumping?



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