Hello there wingnuts
it would be of some help to me if you could comment on the wind range of these front foil wings, all Go Foil
(me - 65kgs 1m69 on a 65 liter board) hand wing is a 6m
Maliko200 (personally I can't really get it up in under 8knots, sometimes it feels like it wants to but I find it needs quite a bit of starting speed)
GT2200
GT1400
cheers
I have the GT1400 @105 Kg with 6m wing I can get up in a 10 to 12 knot gust and keep going through glassy patches. I would not want a larger foil.
@hilly from 10knots to how far up would you go, say 17knots
did you never want the GT2200 for when the wind is just there but no more
where I am we get a lot of days with 4-8knots and I woud really like to get out rather than comb the beach
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@hilly from 10knots to how far up would you go, say 17knots
did you never want the GT2200 for when the wind is just there but no more
where I am we get a lot of days with 4-8knots and I woud really like to get out rather than comb the beach
Solid 15 I would be on the 1150, then at 20 I would reach for the 1000.
If the wind is 4 to 8 knots I would sup foil in waves. Light wind mowing the lawn is not my thing I believe kite foil is way better in really light winds.
2200 might be ok for dw sup foil but I would wait for the GT1750 for light wind dinging, due out soon.
Tails make a huge difference. Try the ftl20 for light wind it may be enough to make the 200 go. The 200 would be super slow though.
I'm almost identical to what you're describing. Same body size, Gofoil 60L board, 6m Strike.
GT2200 and flip tip tail with 1.5mm shim for extra lift. I don't have the FTL20. Don't use the Maliko tail, that's an anchor.
If no technique and just waiting for wind to get you up, takes about 12 knots.
With proper pumping technique (both wing and esp foil) , I get flying with about 3 pumps with a 8-9 gust, but it's really mowing the lawn at those wind speed (or tuning your very light wind technique)
Below 12 knots, it's technical to get flying for most people.
GT2200 is very thin compared to the Maliko 200, much less drag, and I'm those conditions you pretty much always go faster than wind speed.
It also doesn't continue to lift with speed unlike the Maliko, so there's no front foot pressure even at top speed (I top out around 17 knots, but seen report of people topping above 20).
As for wind speed, I wingfoiled it in 20-25 knots no problem because it doesn't over lift (but not with a 6m!)
It is fairly sluggish to turn, good to learn on and glide a long time on the smallest of swell.
I do switch to the RS1000 as soon as it's above 13-14 knots. Way faster and way more fun.
Great news about the GT1750 seems this range of foils is popular
I'm using the Kai tail for now but would like to use the FTS14.5 (less drag?)
apart from Kane Dewilde it seems not many people like really low wind foiling - I find it really tunes your technique and no you wont get speed but I like to be out foiling whenever it's possible
So it seems the GT2200 doesn't have much more bottom end than the Maliko200 but has a much more user friendly top end
Hey Sultan,
I recommend you try switching up to a new tail first, the 14.5 short or long are both good upgrades versus the original Kai tail.
Any GT wing will be an upgrade from the Maliko200. The GTs are much thiner profile and have great top end for their size. They are the best big foils I've tried to date out of Axis, Armstrong and GoFoil. I currently have a GT2200, I'd switch to GT1750 if it were available. GT1400 is the choice if you want to SUP surf and Wing one foil. You'll also get more light wind performance from a bigger longer and skinny board with positive buoyancy. Some people might say you need an 8m, maybe you do. But that is a lot of wing for someone your size. A good powerful 6m will do IMO. Below 8knots you need to start questioning if you shouldn't just go efoiling to get your foil fix! Or go for a SUP paddle around some calm water instead.
I started wing foiling thinking it would be a nice light wind option. Turns out the opposite for me, kinda sucks in light wind, but is super fun when it gets more windy. Light wind only worth the bother if desperate or if there is surf -- but then it's also questionable if slogging with wing is preferable to just prone foiling or sup foiling. 12kt is where I can be powered up fairly solidly with a 6m. 10kt is slogging but doable with a big foil too. Below 10...not worth the effort most days.
Agree with all above. M200 gets up in minimal wing, has a very low stall speed, can kinda just stand there, so it's stable and easy -- but very slow. GT2200 or GL240 is roughly equivalent in lift but way better glide -- and the lift is different, not so much vertical, as a taxiing style jumbo jet takeoff...requires more forward speed. I have a GL240 and will keep it as it opens up fun on light wind days. The M200 also tends to over-foil really easily, whereas the GT2200 or GL240 will hold much better. Agree that the bigger stab really helps light wind performance too.
It's interesting that wing foiling is a complete system with sub systems, each element creates some change, low end, top end, stability, yaw, glide etc, a bit like Pokemon I guess I need to 'try them all'
So I was watching Kane Dewilde's light wind video, and like baldy123 says a long thin floaty board seems to help (100 liters!) (plus Kane has his own custom wing!), however he uses a tiny hand wing, 3.5, I just thought with practice I could get under 8knots but not yet anyways
and a Japanese video shows the rider comparing the Maliko200 and the GL210 and the rider says they prefer the Maliko as, even though a tad slower, is more stable, gybes better, carves better and is more fun overall, will have to try and ride more foils to get my own feeling on them all - cheers for the great input
yep, it's a combination of factors....quite a few variables, lots of room for customizing your ride to suit your tastes (possibly too many variables).
I had M200 along with iwa and kai wings -- the original Gofoils -- and loved them, especially the Iwa. For me, at 78kg, the M200 was only good for tiny waves (less than thigh high) and light wind...any power and it would be just barely hanging on trying not to breach. The new wings are such a massive improvement, I think it would be exceptionally rare that someone prefers the old ones. Their biggest advantage...they are cheap and getting cheaper, and they do work, especially for learning...so a good starting out option.
