F-One Plume

PLUME coverage starts at 19:30

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Hard to always get the clearest point from the youtube translator but is the big idea with this one maximizing the upwind, deflate, paddle downwind?

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Frankieboy said..
What he means is that the "plume" is so light it will always drift behind you and will never get in the way (in front) when surfing.
Also much user friendlier as you will not get tangled in the bridle.
Much better the deflating a wing in any way (packs much smaller)

This really makes sense if you can get the same pull as winging and use smaller boards/foils

Thank you for the breakdown! Looking forward to seeing some ride footage on it. Crazy seeing how it's all evolving so fast...

Have somebodys thoughts been deleted ?
I think i saw last night some one saying he had seen a plume in action and that it folded under pressure and tension like a 2 line Wikipedia ?

This has certainly come out of left field, inflatable parawing?? If it's purely designed for riding upwind then deflating and paddling up downwind that seems like a niche product. If it's just for cruising around and you can't pack it down to go downwind that also seems like a niche product

gonna have to wait for the Fone promo material to figure this one out. My french isn't that good.

That looks to be just as "in the way" as any wing while downwinding and we'd have to assume it doesn't go upwind quite as well either. Frankly, in the 2.5 - 3.5 range, wings really aren't hindering my downwinding much at all. Sure it's a little harder with a wing in m y hand than a paddle but I get to use a MUCH smaller board and foil.

Really starting to wonder what's behind the anti-wing movement

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Thatspec said..
That looks to be just as "in the way" as any wing while downwinding and we'd have to assume it doesn't go upwind quite as well either. Frankly, in the 2.5 - 3.5 range, wings really aren't hindering my downwinding much at all. Sure it's a little harder with a wing in m y hand than a paddle but I get to use a MUCH smaller board and foil.

Really starting to wonder what's behind the anti-wing movement

Hint: (Manufacturers and dealers)

Agree, I don't see it as an upgrade over the wing if that's the dedicated use. However. things keep evolving!

I 100% agree that if you're on a 3.5m or smaller wing it's really not that big of a deal to manage it. It's obviously better to have the wing if you want to session a specific section of swell too.
I think the anti wing movement seems to have strong roots in people that really focused on gen 1 wings or live in lightwind areas and then graduated to dw supfoiling. Modern wings are phenomenal and having learned both dw supfoiling as well as winging I choose the wing every day.

I'll come back in 2 years when the pwing is more final product. Exciting times though! Great to watch!

So from what I can make out in the video above the plume isn't designed to be packed up and stowed but instead flagged out like a wing? If so it seems like it would still take up a similar amount of area as a wing and could still get in the way a bit.
Using an inflatable leading edge supported by a bridle as opposed to the more solid leading edge and strut like on a wing could give really big weight savings. Wouldn't need to use nearly as much material as is required to make the solid frame of the wing. If you've ever held a BRM cloud kite there alot lighter and less material than a wing.
Im still a bit skeptical about this concept though

Interesting update on the SK8 V2.

Based on what the guy was saying in the video, the Plume is a stepping stone into the DW world. It goes, wing -> Plume -> Parawing -> SUP. Obviously those who can PW And SUP DW really well need not apply, but maybe those who are winging and want to learn to ride swell DW, this is a great option. Relaunches very easily, Very clean feeling when riding upwind, great wind range, more pull to get on foil compared to Parawing (maybe?).

Will be interesting to see more footage. If this cranks upwind like a beast, then maybe the old James Casey Deflate DW'er may actually work well with this, especially if it has more power than a PW for getting onto foil. Launch - cruise upwind 30 minutes, then link into bump, pull the deflate valve, bundle it up under the rashie and surf home. handheld small pump for mistakes.

In the video he says that Raphael Salles didn't intend this thing to be deflated. Instead, one of it's advantages is that it's less in-the-way than a regular wing when flagged out riding waves. I'll be curious to find out to what extent this is the case. Though it's lighter and has a significantly smaller leading edge, it still seems like it's a rather large object to have floating around to one side of you. I've never SUP downwinded, but I have done a wing-pass downwinder and I was surprised how much of a difference it made not to have the wing in my hand. A flagged out 3.5M still creates a lot of drag and totally changes the balance equation. Plus, having an open field of view and my full body to use while pumping made a lot of difference. Hands free is best and I assume having a paddle in the hand is next best. But maybe this thing falls somewhere between the paddle and a regular hand wing in the extent to which it affects balance and freedom of movement.

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