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Created by flyingcarpet > 9 months ago, 4 Dec 2020
flyingcarpet
46 posts
4 Dec 2020 6:45PM
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Friday 5:45pm on a quiet south-facing beach on the tip of a long peninsula with a SW wind.

I'm all ready to hit the water and I realise I forgot my leash.

"Ahh, it's a protected bay. I'll be fine."

10 mins into the session I venture out a little further than I should. Gybe. Splash!

Board is 5m downwind of me. Now 6m. I try to swim after it but the wing attached to my arm is like an anchor. 8m, 10m...

No choice to but to take the wing off, hope it stays put, and swim for the board. Hopefully I can catch up.

Very slowly I am catching up but getting damn tired. Then something rolls over me. My wing is tumbling across the surface of the water. It passes me and passes my board shortly after.

There is nothing downwind except open sea.

"Doesn't matter. Just get the board!", I think to myself.

Swimming as hard as I can. Front crawl.

Getting closer. A bit closer. Almost there...

Got it!

Now paddle, paddle, paddle... and get that wing!

I paddle like there's no tomorrow. Hopefully, not literally.

I'm not getting any closer and am already past the point of exhaustion. I'm on my stomach and my legs are dragging in the water slowing me down. The 2400cm2 Armstrong foil and 85cm mast isn't helping me at this point either.. My only chance to catch the wing is to get on my knees and paddle lifeguard style.

Minutes pass, but it feel like hours. But I am slowly closing in on it. It's working!

I reach for the wing's leash, but the wind flips it over once again and I just miss it.

A few more hard strokes....

GOT IT!

No time to catch my breath. I'm already past the rocky point and drifting further downwind. Too tired to stand - and I'd probably fall over anyway - so I stay kneeling with wing in hand and the leash attached to my wrist again. I point back upwind.

The wind is my friend again.

I pass the point and am back in the bay. Worst case I loose the board again and it blows onshore.

Made it!

I stand up on the 6'3" PPC foil board, do a few weak pumps, manage to get on foil and head right back to the beach.

Ain't gonna do that again!!

UisceBeatha
129 posts
4 Dec 2020 7:06PM
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Jaysus, what lotto numbers do you use

Jethrow
NSW, 1273 posts
4 Dec 2020 10:44PM
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Wow, just... WOW!

bhc
VIC, 203 posts
4 Dec 2020 10:55PM
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I wonder whether you could use the wing to drag you downwind to catch up with the board instead of swimming.

Youngbreezy
WA, 1198 posts
4 Dec 2020 8:01PM
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Good call ditching the wing and going for the board first. The board with Armstrong attached is probably worth 3 or 4 wings.

emmafoils
307 posts
4 Dec 2020 8:49PM
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Great job recovering it all. Good reminder for all of us.

mcrt
643 posts
4 Dec 2020 11:02PM
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bhc said..
I wonder whether you could use the wing to drag you downwind to catch up with the board instead of swimming.




Mmmm, i think no way.
Kiters can power up the kite through the window and drift down pretty fast but you cannot do that with the wing.

LeeD
3939 posts
5 Dec 2020 1:32AM
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Nice save!
Glad you're ok.
Either is really difficult.
A flipping wing especially.

Seajuice
NSW, 919 posts
5 Dec 2020 10:14AM
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Phew! That was entertaining Great to know you & gear all back in one piece.
When talking with mates about safety. I point one finger up and say ONE.
If you're thinking of taking a chance. It only has to go wrong once. And that means loss of equipment, injury or death.

Gorgo
VIC, 5099 posts
5 Dec 2020 10:50AM
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When a board is sitting by itself in the water it doesn't just drift downwind. As each wave pushes the board it momentarily gets up on the foil and accelerates.

It's quite good to be downwind of the board and watching it chase you like a faithful puppy. It sucks to be upwind and chasing it.

I have been in a similar position a few times (kite foiling). There is nothing more frustrating than being 50mm away from a board and not being able to grab it.

bigmc
NSW, 256 posts
5 Dec 2020 3:48PM
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I had a similar incident years ago. Sailboarding. About 600m out but wind direction meant land was 7km away. Board and rig separated and I just couldn't get to the board. 15knts and much stronger gusts. Realising that I was getting exhausted then deciding to let the board go and swim back to the beach. I didn't want to lose the rig as well so tied it around my ankle like an anchor. Don't know how long I swam for and lucky no currents. Board was a few km down the beach. Lots of thought go through your mind. The worst story is DJ losing his board years ago. That would have scary. I have just bought a wind wing and I will play it safe.

sprayblaze
168 posts
5 Dec 2020 5:56PM
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I also had a similar incident ago month ago windsurfing. Strong winds , 40 knots onshore, 2.5 waves, a big bay, sandy beach, grey dense clouds, grey water, mushy waves curling all arond. Some would say: nothing special, safe conditions, no problem.

I usually ride close to the shore-thats were the waves are, but this time I headed out in search of a huge steep ramp. I had this strange feeling that if for some reason I let go my kit I will get in trouble and than after a swift jibe ....bang I found myself with the rig in my hands but without a board under my feet.

I left my sail and tried to catch my board..no way, wave after wave white water the wave dissapeared towards the beach. I returned for the rig-it was waiting for me thanks God. I realised that I am somewhere 200-250 from the beach. The wind was cold but the water was warm, I was with a 5/4mm-thaks God. I decided to stay calm,save my energy, cling to my rig and let the waves and wind eject me on the shore--ha-ha what a fool.. After 10 minutes- no sign of even approaching. Windsurfers, kiters were looking like ants in the distance.

Don't trust anyone telling you that there is no panic-just heroic crap. That spooky feeling of doom and gloom creeping up your throat. You can't help it.Leaving the rig and start swimming-the most desperate(and foolish) thing you can do.

With all that water moving around- a couple of strokes and you are done- what if there are currents and for sure there are.. I started looking around-no one. AND then suddenly a kiter out from nowhere, I started waving, he noticed me and came!!!! I begged for help.

He was willing but shouted that he was not very experienced. I remember I noticed that his twin tib board had straps(thanks God it was not strapless...).

He started streching out his hand to grab mine- I realised that that this will not lead to anything... I yelled for a leash but his was too short aaargh... And then he left me.....Maybe to call for some help or maybe he just abondened me stuck. How long can I survive making some strokes, clinging to my rig and staying as far as ever from the shore...

But then the kiter made a turn and came again. Without even asking I gathered all of my strength and grabbed him around the knee with one hand like a beast, the other holding the mast base of my rig- after all I did not want to loose it ( a brand new 3,4 2020Goya banzai with 85rdm mast and a slick skinny goya boom) or at least do everything possible to save it before letting it go.

Slowly plowing the water, letting me take a break to recover after inhaling countless spray and water, the kiter(GOd bless Him, I don"even know his name) took me(and my rig unscathed) to rock solid bottom waved his hand and smoked away...My angel saviour.

Getting on the shore I took the weed off my boom-I couldn't extend my elbow, my biceps in hyper contracted mode from clinging to the kiters knee. After slow recover I started the search for my board. Luckily I found it anchored on a lump of weed without any dings- just a small barely seen scratch on the deck from the bolt of my disassembled trusted and proven.. mast base. I always make sure it is tight, but what happened I don't have a clue.

Thanks God I was lucky.

Now I have a different approach. Wing, kite, surf , foil, windsurf are nature challenging sports, playing with the elements. Never forget this fact. Nature has always the upper hand although we like ''immortal" digitally evolved humans don't like to think this way. It is not worth dying for a wall of water, believe me.

flyingcarpet
46 posts
5 Dec 2020 6:07PM
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sprayblaze said..
Wing, kite, surf , foil, windsurf are nature challenging sports, playing with the elements. Never forget this fact. Nature has always the upper hand although we like ''immortal" digitally evolved humans don't like to think this way. It is not worth dying for a wall of water, believe me.


So true. Hopefully not everyone needs to learn the hard way.

Seems like I did...

flyingcarpet
46 posts
5 Dec 2020 6:10PM
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Gorgo said..
When a board is sitting by itself in the water it doesn't just drift downwind. As each wave pushes the board it momentarily gets up on the foil and accelerates.


That explains it. Exactly what happened to me!

ulx
53 posts
5 Dec 2020 7:29PM
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bhc said..
I wonder whether you could use the wing to drag you downwind to catch up with the board instead of swimming.


That works pretty well actually. On flat water I often don't use a leash (I am winging on lakes pretty often at the moment). If the board drifts away from me and I can't get it swimming with a few powerful strokes I put the fronttube of the wing down on the water and grab either only one of the backward handles or one front and one back handle. The letter gives a tiny bit of steering option. Until now it worked well every time.

Clamsmasha
WA, 311 posts
5 Dec 2020 8:35PM
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You got lucky there!
I've been using webbing belts for wing and board and I've had the wing unbuckle itself 3 or 4 times. I chased it down each time but the bastard seems to know when you're catching it and of it goes for another flutter. I do it a little differently now same it seems to have fixed the problem.
As for using the wing to sail downwind sans board...I've been play with that but I reckon the board will travel faster.

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
5 Dec 2020 10:12PM
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Damn man what a nightmare. I like the triage on the Armstrong foil and PPC board comment to. Good effort !

flyingcarpet
46 posts
6 Dec 2020 5:12AM
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eppo said..
Damn man what a nightmare. I like the triage on the Armstrong foil and PPC board comment to. Good effort !


Thanks.

I wish I could say I it was a smart decision, but there was very little thought involved. Instinct said the board was more valuable to me in that situation.

MidAtlanticFoil
818 posts
6 Dec 2020 9:25AM
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Man that's a crazy story!

Last weekend I had a shocker. All geared up at my local to test different wing combos etc. for the day, super psyched with good wind.
I felt a little off before I launched and went back for some water. Launched anyways and took off upwind a few long tacks. Then I basically came down with either sea sickness or food poisoning and lost all strength and the wind slacked. I ended up sitting on my board puking and umbrella'ing my way back to the launch. Took forever. I could barely walk onto the beach and actually had to yell to a kid to get his mom so I could call my wife for assistance. Could only lay there in the sand like a beached whale. She had to half carry me to her car and I ended up sleeping it off for four hours.
I was just glad I was upwind of my launch, otherwise I would have been in more trouble. Offshore would have been bad. So I guess the moral of that story is if you don't feel 100, limit your potential exposure.

Gorgo
VIC, 5099 posts
6 Dec 2020 12:47PM
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^^^^ that highlights one of my concerns about wing foiling. It's touted as the super safe alternative. Anything goes wrong you just paddle in.

In reality, a big paddle in is a mission. Try and paddle a mile in with no wind some time.

More importantly, the rider is a key structural element in the system. If there is anything wrong with the rider then you're going nowhere. At least with a kite, as long as it has some wind in it you can tow yourself to shore.

I ride with an Apple watch. In theory I could press 000 and get rescued. My missus can find my location using the Find My Iphone app. It's convenient to just have it there on my wrist under my wetsuit.

flyingcarpet
46 posts
6 Dec 2020 11:16AM
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Thanks for sharing all your personal stories too.
The more we learn from each other - even if only virtually - the faster we will progress and the safer we'll be.
To clarify, I was about 100m out from the point in 12kts wind. Any stronger wind than that and it would have been hopeless.
I wasn't worried about personal safety, at least not initially. But had I not seen that I was catching up, even if only slowly, burning up energy to chase gear and going further from safety one would have to make a call to use your last reserves for the upwind swim back.
Part of my determination probably came from knowing that there was no way i could justify to my wife to get completely re-kitted for wing foiling if i lost all my gear with such a dumb move. So another way to look at it is that I was essentially swimming to save my marriage! ??

Clamsmasha
WA, 311 posts
23 Dec 2020 2:46PM
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flyingcarpet said..
Part of my determination probably came from knowing that there was no way i could justify to my wife to get completely re-kitted for wing foiling if i lost all my gear with such a dumb move. So another way to look at it is that I was essentially swimming to save my marriage! ??


LOL, I read this as...."My wife said that if I replaced the gear I lost, she'd leave me. I live in my car now, and I have a 3,4 and 6m wing with 2 custom boards on the way. I don't care about sex because I'm too tired from winging 4 hours a day".

ulx
53 posts
13 Feb 2021 9:52PM
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This is what I meant by bodydraging with the wing. Good video from Gunnar.

LeeD
3939 posts
14 Feb 2021 9:39AM
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Thanks for that, great info.

Seajuice
NSW, 919 posts
15 Feb 2021 9:57PM
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Clamsmasha said..

flyingcarpet said..
Part of my determination probably came from knowing that there was no way i could justify to my wife to get completely re-kitted for wing foiling if i lost all my gear with such a dumb move. So another way to look at it is that I was essentially swimming to save my marriage! ??



LOL, I read this as...."My wife said that if I replaced the gear I lost, she'd leave me. I live in my car now, and I have a 3,4 and 6m wing with 2 custom boards on the way. I don't care about sex because I'm too tired from winging 4 hours a day".


Haaaaaa!!!!! Good one! But now you need a van or bigger.

flyingcarpet
46 posts
2 Mar 2021 6:41PM
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ulx said..
This is what I meant by bodydraging with the wing. Good video from Gunnar.


I will have to practise that, thanks!!



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