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Does Fanatic 68cm Carbon Fuse Fit The AL 3.0 Masts ?

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Created by Sambo # > 9 months ago, 18 Oct 2023
Sambo #
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18 Oct 2023 3:01PM
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Just wondering if these two parts are compatible?

sunsetsailboards
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18 Oct 2023 1:30PM
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No, the carbon fuses only fit carbon masts. They are calling it the 3BS system (3-bolt system) which uses three 50mm M8 screws. The aluminum masts use two 35mm M8 screws.
a little confusing because the new 3BS fuselages are aluminum.

Sambo #
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18 Oct 2023 5:01PM
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sunsetsailboards said..
No, the carbon fuses only fit carbon masts. They are calling it the 3BS system (3-bolt system) which uses three 50mm M8 screws. The aluminum masts use two 35mm M8 screws.
a little confusing because the new 3BS fuselages are aluminum.


Yeah and I just read they fit the carbon masts. Wonder why they've done that and not around the other way as well ?

Dave J
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18 Oct 2023 10:26PM
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Presumably because cheaper. And they can make them at similar weight to the carbon as they're a bit thinner & hollowed out sections of the alloy version

patronus
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19 Oct 2023 3:31PM
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Sambo # said..

sunsetsailboards said..
No, the carbon fuses only fit carbon masts. They are calling it the 3BS system (3-bolt system) which uses three 50mm M8 screws. The aluminum masts use two 35mm M8 screws.
a little confusing because the new 3BS fuselages are aluminum.



Yeah and I just read they fit the carbon masts. Wonder why they've done that and not around the other way as well ?


Duotone video said wanted a more streamlined fuse and could get stiffness and strength needed from aluminium but not carbon (thought it was other way around). Acknowledged set up needed to be dismantled and washed in fresh water after every use. and was also cheaper,

Sambo #
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19 Oct 2023 7:46PM
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Sambo # said..


sunsetsailboards said..
No, the carbon fuses only fit carbon masts. They are calling it the 3BS system (3-bolt system) which uses three 50mm M8 screws. The aluminum masts use two 35mm M8 screws.
a little confusing because the new 3BS fuselages are aluminum.




Yeah and I just read they fit the carbon masts. Wonder why they've done that and not around the other way as well ?



Duotone video said wanted a more streamlined fuse and could get stiffness and strength needed from aluminium but not carbon (thought it was other way around). Acknowledged set up needed to be dismantled and washed in fresh water after every use. and was also cheaper,


Good to know I don't need to buy a carbon fuse when I switch to carbon. Maybe carbon's only stiffer in certain applications , ie masts, the higher the carbon content used in a mast the the stiffer it will be and the quicker the release time, and and aluminium is always stronger? Makes sense aluminium would be stronger.

boardsurfr
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21 Oct 2023 1:27AM
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Sambo # said..
Good to know I don't need to buy a carbon fuse when I switch to carbon.


From what I understand, you will still need to buy a new fuse when switching from all to carbon, since the mast-fuse connection is different (flat with 3 screws for the carbon masts, 3D shape with 2 screws for alu masts). They only changed the material of the fuses that go with the carbon mast, and now have two different and incompatible types of alu fuses.

Sambo #
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21 Oct 2023 7:53AM
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Sambo # said..
Good to know I don't need to buy a carbon fuse when I switch to carbon.




From what I understand, you will still need to buy a new fuse when switching from all to carbon, since the mast-fuse connection is different (flat with 3 screws for the carbon masts, 3D shape with 2 screws for alu masts). They only changed the material of the fuses that go with the carbon mast, and now have two different and incompatible types of alu fuses.



That'd be right. I'm gonna switch brands when I go back to work. More options with other brands.

Dave J
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21 Oct 2023 9:00AM
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Yes, while the alloy mast/fuse use a pocket connection, and the carbon mast uses a saddle system, it is good at least that all their older and new foil wingsets are compatible with either. And they now have a much broader range of foil options than a year or two ago.

Sambo #
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22 Oct 2023 9:46AM
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Dave J said..
Yes, while the alloy mast/fuse use a pocket connection, and the carbon mast uses a saddle system, it is good at least that all their older and new foil wingsets are compatible with either. And they now have a much broader range of foil options than a year or two ago.


True

patronus
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22 Oct 2023 4:08PM
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What are you trying to do? If you want to move from an aluminium system to all carbon a few Fanatic systems are still available at 40% off (in UK anyway), and you can carry on using existing Aero wings. New Duotone masts etc are rebranded Fanatic ones. However, moving forward Duotone are discontinuing carbon fuses and have introduced a replacement range of aluminium fuses but advise you dismantle and rinse after every sea-session.

Sambo #
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22 Oct 2023 8:14PM
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What are you trying to do? If you want to move from an aluminium system to all carbon a few Fanatic systems are still available at 40% off (in UK anyway), and you can carry on using existing Aero wings. New Duotone masts etc are rebranded Fanatic ones. However, moving forward Duotone are discontinuing carbon fuses and have introduced a replacement range of aluminium fuses but advise you dismantle and rinse after every sea-session.


I want a wider range of foil wings.

leepasty
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23 Oct 2023 1:20AM
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Sambo # said..

patronus said..
What are you trying to do? If you want to move from an aluminium system to all carbon a few Fanatic systems are still available at 40% off (in UK anyway), and you can carry on using existing Aero wings. New Duotone masts etc are rebranded Fanatic ones. However, moving forward Duotone are discontinuing carbon fuses and have introduced a replacement range of aluminium fuses but advise you dismantle and rinse after every sea-session.



I want a wider range of foil wings.


What do you mean by wider range? Duotone now has a pretty wide range with Carve dlab, carve sls, Free sls , Glide sls and also the Lift. sizes go from 500 to 2400 cm2
i would say there is a perfect foil in there depending what you are looking for and conditions you ride in

Sambo #
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23 Oct 2023 9:27AM
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Sambo # said..



patronus said..
What are you trying to do? If you want to move from an aluminium system to all carbon a few Fanatic systems are still available at 40% off (in UK anyway), and you can carry on using existing Aero wings. New Duotone masts etc are rebranded Fanatic ones. However, moving forward Duotone are discontinuing carbon fuses and have introduced a replacement range of aluminium fuses but advise you dismantle and rinse after every sea-session.





I want a wider range of foil wings.




What do you mean by wider range? Duotone now has a pretty wide range with Carve dlab, carve sls, Free sls , Glide sls and also the Lift. sizes go from 500 to 2400 cm2
i would say there is a perfect foil in there depending what you are looking for and conditions you ride in



Yeah right. I had a look on the Duotone site the other day and from memory the range was as limited as what it was about a year ago. I don't know I missed all the new stuff but thanks for letting me know. Gonna have another look now. And by range I meant from really small to large with evenly spaced increments in sizing in between ( a good range) , for wind foiling and winging.

leepasty
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23 Oct 2023 9:12PM
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leepasty said..




Sambo # said..





patronus said..
What are you trying to do? If you want to move from an aluminium system to all carbon a few Fanatic systems are still available at 40% off (in UK anyway), and you can carry on using existing Aero wings. New Duotone masts etc are rebranded Fanatic ones. However, moving forward Duotone are discontinuing carbon fuses and have introduced a replacement range of aluminium fuses but advise you dismantle and rinse after every sea-session.







I want a wider range of foil wings.






What do you mean by wider range? Duotone now has a pretty wide range with Carve dlab, carve sls, Free sls , Glide sls and also the Lift. sizes go from 500 to 2400 cm2
i would say there is a perfect foil in there depending what you are looking for and conditions you ride in





Yeah right. I had a look on the Duotone site the other day and from memory the range was as limited as what it was about a year ago. I don't know I missed all the new stuff but thanks for letting me know. Gonna have another look now. And by range I meant from really small to large with evenly spaced increments in sizing in between ( a good range) , for wind foiling and winging.



Maybe you just looked at the old kite foil range which is still available. all the new foils are here- www.duotonesports.com/en/wing-foiling/foils









Sambo #
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25 Oct 2023 8:27AM
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leepasty said..

Sambo # said..



leepasty said..





Sambo # said..






patronus said..
What are you trying to do? If you want to move from an aluminium system to all carbon a few Fanatic systems are still available at 40% off (in UK anyway), and you can carry on using existing Aero wings. New Duotone masts etc are rebranded Fanatic ones. However, moving forward Duotone are discontinuing carbon fuses and have introduced a replacement range of aluminium fuses but advise you dismantle and rinse after every sea-session.








I want a wider range of foil wings.







What do you mean by wider range? Duotone now has a pretty wide range with Carve dlab, carve sls, Free sls , Glide sls and also the Lift. sizes go from 500 to 2400 cm2
i would say there is a perfect foil in there depending what you are looking for and conditions you ride in






Yeah right. I had a look on the Duotone site the other day and from memory the range was as limited as what it was about a year ago. I don't know I missed all the new stuff but thanks for letting me know. Gonna have another look now. And by range I meant from really small to large with evenly spaced increments in sizing in between ( a good range) , for wind foiling and winging.




Maybe you just looked at the old kite foil range which is still available. all the new foils are here- www.duotonesports.com/en/wing-foiling/foils










Thanks mate. I found them.



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