As you probably know, BRM just launched a new range of parawings.
Yesterday, the FOILERS Podcast was fortunate enough to have a chat with Greg about the range. In this episode, he talks about how they are different from his original parawing (the one that started it all) and what you should consider when choosing the right model for you. If you are thinking about getting into parawinging or upgrading your current parawing then this is the episode for you. Enjoy!
Check it out on Spotify - open.spotify.com/episode/6KjgzgwprZBYZWrA2OOr48?si=06d2fc123a9c4256
Or look for the FOILERS podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts.
Awesome discussion Pete! Sound like the new BRMs will be worth a look. Thanks for bringing Greg on to get some more info.
Thanks for this!
This is exactly what I wanted to hear from Greg about the Ka'a vs Kanaha:
"even some hardcore wave riders are like oh no [the Kanaha is] my pick for surfing. I'm like, unexpected what's up? And they're like, once you get a taste of that upwind strength, you're like straight back to the peak in one tack. And I'm like, yeah, but it doesn't drift as quick. It's not quite as responsive drift in the turns in that they're like, well, that's a trade off. Sure. But I'll take that trade off for that upwind power."
Audio tracks seems like they got messed up in a few places, mainly from about 10:52, but maybe you fixed it since I listened.
Select to expand quotekyc said..
Thanks for this!
This is exactly what I wanted to hear from Greg about the Ka'a vs Kanaha:
"even some hardcore wave riders are like oh no [the Kanaha is] my pick for surfing. I'm like, unexpected what's up? And they're like, once you get a taste of that upwind strength, you're like straight back to the peak in one tack. And I'm like, yeah, but it doesn't drift as quick. It's not quite as responsive drift in the turns in that they're like, well, that's a trade off. Sure. But I'll take that trade off for that upwind power."
Audio tracks seems like they got messed up in a few places, mainly from about 10:52, but maybe you fixed it since I listened.
That is the quote that helped assuage my fears of having picked the wrong wing. I went Kanaha and look forward to cranking upwind for as much DW and swell riding as possible.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..kyc said..
Thanks for this!
This is exactly what I wanted to hear from Greg about the Ka'a vs Kanaha:
"even some hardcore wave riders are like oh no [the Kanaha is] my pick for surfing. I'm like, unexpected what's up? And they're like, once you get a taste of that upwind strength, you're like straight back to the peak in one tack. And I'm like, yeah, but it doesn't drift as quick. It's not quite as responsive drift in the turns in that they're like, well, that's a trade off. Sure. But I'll take that trade off for that upwind power."
Audio tracks seems like they got messed up in a few places, mainly from about 10:52, but maybe you fixed it since I listened.
That is the quote that helped assuage my fears of having picked the wrong wing. I went Kanaha and look forward to cranking upwind for as much DW and swell riding as possible.
Yeah that quote perked my ears up too. Hopefully testing out the Kanaha this weekend.
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..kyc said..
Thanks for this!
This is exactly what I wanted to hear from Greg about the Ka'a vs Kanaha:
"even some hardcore wave riders are like oh no [the Kanaha is] my pick for surfing. I'm like, unexpected what's up? And they're like, once you get a taste of that upwind strength, you're like straight back to the peak in one tack. And I'm like, yeah, but it doesn't drift as quick. It's not quite as responsive drift in the turns in that they're like, well, that's a trade off. Sure. But I'll take that trade off for that upwind power."
Audio tracks seems like they got messed up in a few places, mainly from about 10:52, but maybe you fixed it since I listened.
That is the quote that helped assuage my fears of having picked the wrong wing. I went Kanaha and look forward to cranking upwind for as much DW and swell riding as possible.
Yeah that quote perked my ears up too. Hopefully testing out the Kanaha this weekend.
I'm thinking about a Kanaha for 28 to 35 plus KNT. Do you have any recommendations? It seems like the 2.5m is my only option.
Or should I look into a Ka'a instead?
Select to expand quotePacoo said..BWalnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..kyc said..
Thanks for this!
This is exactly what I wanted to hear from Greg about the Ka'a vs Kanaha:
"even some hardcore wave riders are like oh no [the Kanaha is] my pick for surfing. I'm like, unexpected what's up? And they're like, once you get a taste of that upwind strength, you're like straight back to the peak in one tack. And I'm like, yeah, but it doesn't drift as quick. It's not quite as responsive drift in the turns in that they're like, well, that's a trade off. Sure. But I'll take that trade off for that upwind power."
Audio tracks seems like they got messed up in a few places, mainly from about 10:52, but maybe you fixed it since I listened.
That is the quote that helped assuage my fears of having picked the wrong wing. I went Kanaha and look forward to cranking upwind for as much DW and swell riding as possible.
Yeah that quote perked my ears up too. Hopefully testing out the Kanaha this weekend.
I'm thinking about a Kanaha for 28 to 35 plus KNT. Do you have any recommendations? It seems like the 2.5m is my only option.
Or should I look into a Ka'a instead?
For me, the 2.3m Ka'a was getting pretty maxed out over 30kts. I'd be concerned you will be overcooked on the 2.5m but haven't tried the kanaha. I really thought the 2.3m was on the money at 25kts
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..Pacoo said..BWalnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..kyc said..
Thanks for this!
This is exactly what I wanted to hear from Greg about the Ka'a vs Kanaha:
"even some hardcore wave riders are like oh no [the Kanaha is] my pick for surfing. I'm like, unexpected what's up? And they're like, once you get a taste of that upwind strength, you're like straight back to the peak in one tack. And I'm like, yeah, but it doesn't drift as quick. It's not quite as responsive drift in the turns in that they're like, well, that's a trade off. Sure. But I'll take that trade off for that upwind power."
Audio tracks seems like they got messed up in a few places, mainly from about 10:52, but maybe you fixed it since I listened.
That is the quote that helped assuage my fears of having picked the wrong wing. I went Kanaha and look forward to cranking upwind for as much DW and swell riding as possible.
Yeah that quote perked my ears up too. Hopefully testing out the Kanaha this weekend.
I'm thinking about a Kanaha for 28 to 35 plus KNT. Do you have any recommendations? It seems like the 2.5m is my only option.
Or should I look into a Ka'a instead?
For me, the 2.3m Ka'a was getting pretty maxed out over 30kts. I'd be concerned you will be overcooked on the 2.5m but haven't tried the kanaha. I really thought the 2.3m was on the money at 25kts
Interesting, according to the BRM web the middle of the Ka'a range is 27-28 knt ( and goes up to arround 34knt). So your experience is that has lower top range.
Do you ride in a harness?
Harness is advised but my struggle was when unhooked in gybes and worst when doing water starts. The violence that it was being pulled from my hand was too much, even when trying for max depower. There's a lot of power available there and I felt like the 1.7m would be a more appropriate for anyone legitimately at 30 knots or higher.
TBH in those wind speeds I'd just buy two and go out with both. That's what I chose to do when replacing my BRM with Ozone's. I ordered a 1.9m and 2.4m and I intend to have both with me on the water. If I was doing BRM I'd go 1.7m ka'a and 2.5m kanaha.
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..
Harness is advised but my struggle was when unhooked in gybes and worst when doing water starts. The violence that it was being pulled from my hand was too much, even when trying for max depower. There's a lot of power available there and I felt like the 1.7m would be a more appropriate for anyone legitimately at 30 knots or higher.
TBH in those wind speeds I'd just buy two and go out with both. That's what I chose to do when replacing my BRM with Ozone's. I ordered a 1.9m and 2.4m and I intend to have both with me on the water. If I was doing BRM I'd go 1.7m ka'a and 2.5m kanaha.
My recommendation is to stay hooked in while getting going in strong winds. It really makes everything more chill and comfortable. Maybe the bungee line I use makes it easier. It's nice to just one hand it casually and hop to my feet.
I've only had one session in winds quite that strong and I swapped between the v1 1.8 and 2.9M Maliko. The 1.8 went insanely well.
I just scooped up a used 2.3M Ka'a for those 24-32 type days. The 3.2 Kanaha is a bit much in that range, but I'm a lightweight and picky. For the 30 plus days, the 1.8 fits the bill.
Always keeping a backup in a backpack for most sessions.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..
My recommendation is to stay hooked in while getting going in strong winds. It really makes everything more chill and comfortable. Maybe the bungee line I use makes it easier. It's nice to just one hand it casually and hop to my feet.
I hadn't even considered this as a possibility but will have to give it a go. Sounds perfect. Much learning curve?
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My recommendation is to stay hooked in while getting going in strong winds. It really makes everything more chill and comfortable. Maybe the bungee line I use makes it easier. It's nice to just one hand it casually and hop to my feet.
I hadn't even considered this as a possibility but will have to give it a go. Sounds perfect. Much learning curve?
I basically learned this way, so i can't say how hard it will be for you. Shouldn't be too bad. I only unhook for boarding and starts when I'm underpowered.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..BWalnut said..
Harness is advised but my struggle was when unhooked in gybes and worst when doing water starts. The violence that it was being pulled from my hand was too much, even when trying for max depower. There's a lot of power available there and I felt like the 1.7m would be a more appropriate for anyone legitimately at 30 knots or higher.
TBH in those wind speeds I'd just buy two and go out with both. That's what I chose to do when replacing my BRM with Ozone's. I ordered a 1.9m and 2.4m and I intend to have both with me on the water. If I was doing BRM I'd go 1.7m ka'a and 2.5m kanaha.
My recommendation is to stay hooked in while getting going in strong winds. It really makes everything more chill and comfortable. Maybe the bungee line I use makes it easier. It's nice to just one hand it casually and hop to my feet.
I've only had one session in winds quite that strong and I swapped between the v1 1.8 and 2.9M Maliko. The 1.8 went insanely well.
I just scooped up a used 2.3M Ka'a for those 24-32 type days. The 3.2 Kanaha is a bit much in that range, but I'm a lightweight and picky. For the 30 plus days, the 1.8 fits the bill.
Always keeping a backup in a backpack for most sessions.
Thanks for the input, it is difficult to select the sizes based on the BRM web wind range and sizes.
The range does not seem to overlap in the Kanahas, but matches better in the ka'a (skipping one size).
The sizes around 3m seem to have a range comparable to my Naish Morph, 18-28 knt (mostly 20-25, feeling perfect). But the 4m sizes have a much shorter range (on the web) than the Naish 4m ( 14 to 22knt) in my experience.
I'm waiting for the kanaha 5.5m so let's see how that goes. From there, the next, maybe the ka'a 2.3, I'm not convinced on high aspect for strong winds, the tips tend to fold a bit in strong gusts.
