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Created by JakeDawg69 > 9 months ago, 23 Sep 2022
JakeDawg69
92 posts
23 Sep 2022 12:12PM
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I had a great session today on the 1050 using the 440 stab in 3-4 foot chop and swell. The 440 is not the fastest but it did provide rock solid pitch control through the swell. The 1050 cuts right through the chop like butter. The combination was really great because I didn't have to think. It was just happening. No nosedives. No breaching. No getting washed out by cross chop. Another winger later said to me that I looked "so chill" just holding the wing up riding along. Usually in these conditions, I feel like I'm taming a bronco. Somehow I was able to go right down the face of the wave and the foil just locked in. I rode one wave straight all the way back in while listening to the hum of the foil speeding along. Very stable foil too. Usually I have a hard time gybing on the chop but the foil was so stable through the turns and riding switch before the foot swap.

Dcharlton
320 posts
23 Sep 2022 6:09PM
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1050 is my bread and butter foil, love this thing, gets up in light winds, responsive, fun and great glide. Just a lot of fun and easy to dial in.

DC

pitbulldoug
183 posts
24 Sep 2022 10:22AM
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Said it many times the 1050 HPS is best big guy wing Axis makes for unruly seas/waves hands down and for that matter even lighter riders! If you want to get more speed out of the 1050 try the 375P or if in HW class the 425P which I've been using past few months great combo,call me old school still riding good ol 19mm alum mast suits me just fine have not ventured into $1300 CF modulus territory yet,when the 19mm just does me fine at a fraction of the price.Hail the 1050 HPS great versatility low wind to high winds it does it all great wing 100%

Holoholo
244 posts
25 Sep 2022 2:41AM
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How does the 1050 do in light wind for a bigger/95kg rider? I'm on a 90L board, am under 20 sessions in the sport- currently use the 1150. It is uber stable, gets up light wind, but slow, draggy and predictably doesn't turn so great. I'd love to get a wing I can progress on, be completely off the red fuse as I prone surf on the black, but want to be sure I have a viable option for the many light wind days at my local. Hoping the 1050 may fit the bill?

Dcharlton
320 posts
25 Sep 2022 8:34AM
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Holoholo said..
How does the 1050 do in light wind for a bigger/95kg rider? I'm on a 90L board, am under 20 sessions in the sport- currently use the 1150. It is uber stable, gets up light wind, but slow, draggy and predictably doesn't turn so great. I'd love to get a wing I can progress on, be completely off the red fuse as I prone surf on the black, but want to be sure I have a viable option for the many light wind days at my local. Hoping the 1050 may fit the bill?


I'm 95kg and sold my red fuse and 1060bsc after I got the 1050hps. It's my light wind foil, I'm on a 90ltr starboard takeoff. I'm amazed at how it takes off in light wind and it's performance!

dc

Holoholo
244 posts
25 Sep 2022 10:43AM
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Dcharlton said..




I'm 95kg and sold my red fuse and 1060bsc after I got the 1050hps. It's my light wind foil, I'm on a 90ltr starboard takeoff. I'm amazed at how it takes off in light wind and it's performance!

dc



Perfect. Thanks for responding with that info. This gear is so specific/dependent to weight and conditions- it really helps to have info like that before laying out the ca$h! I was on an older version 95L Naish- like it but- Box/footstrap locations not quite right so just ordered up a 90L Appletree Jazz thats enroute as we speak. Can't wait!

Seajuice
NSW, 919 posts
25 Sep 2022 5:18PM
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When I first got up on my 1050 hps I was relieved it got up easily compared to my XL Neil Pryde. But faster! I think the Axis 1050 hps helped increase my board speed due to being High Aspect before lift off. I could still hang on at 20 knots without breaching. And I am not too fussed in higher winds than that with my 6metre Cabrinha wing. Looking forward to trying out my original 4 metre Naish Wingsurfer in those conditions to compare performance etc?
Great to hear the 1050hps has satisfied in a range of wind strengths.
What will I get next???

rseeg
NSW, 12 posts
25 Sep 2022 5:39PM
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Holoholo said..
How does the 1050 do in light wind for a bigger/95kg rider? I'm on a 90L board, am under 20 sessions in the sport- currently use the 1150. It is uber stable, gets up light wind, but slow, draggy and predictably doesn't turn so great. I'd love to get a wing I can progress on, be completely off the red fuse as I prone surf on the black, but want to be sure I have a viable option for the many light wind days at my local. Hoping the 1050 may fit the bill?



I'm 95kg and sold my red fuse and 1060bsc after I got the 1050hps. It's my light wind foil, I'm on a 90ltr starboard takeoff. I'm amazed at how it takes off in light wind and it's performance!

dc


Same for me... 88kg, sold by 1060BSC and short red fuse and got a 1050HPS, US black fuse and 400p rear... got used to it straight away and not much difference getting up but much more top end speed which is awesome.

JakeDawg69
92 posts
25 Sep 2022 7:57PM
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Holoholo said..
How does the 1050 do in light wind for a bigger/95kg rider? I'm on a 90L board, am under 20 sessions in the sport- currently use the 1150. It is uber stable, gets up light wind, but slow, draggy and predictably doesn't turn so great. I'd love to get a wing I can progress on, be completely off the red fuse as I prone surf on the black, but want to be sure I have a viable option for the many light wind days at my local. Hoping the 1050 may fit the bill?


My other wing is the 1310 (which is not that slow, not draggy, and glides and pumps great) that I use for under 12 knots. I'm 100kg. I think I need about 12 knots on my 8m CWC to use the 1050 and 14 knots on my 6m. I imagine that the range up from there could go up to 30 knots on a 4m.

northy1
490 posts
25 Sep 2022 8:54PM
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I have just done same...got 1050 and 930 to replace 910 and 1150....need a few light sessions to confirm I can sell 1150 but simplicity of one black fuse is alluring, currently 92kg

Driks
183 posts
17 Jan 2023 5:28PM
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Hi guys!
Also got a question here. Last Friday I got a session which was pretty cool at all. But some concerns about it.
I used a 7.5 sqm wing. In gusts it was to big but in lulls I needed it, best would be an 6.5 I guess but I dont got one. I mostly used the PNG 1150 with it. Was speedy with cool glide but not so turntable. Then I switched to the BSC 970 and it exactly closed the gap in manoverability but now I missed the glide and the speed a bit and I earned more Touch downs. So I started to ask me if the HPS 1050 could be the missing link here or can even replace the other two!? What u think? I am intermediate now, started to stand tacks more often, jibes no problem also switch. I like to surf the downwind swell. I am around 95 kg. I think this day was mostly around 15 knots but with heavy gusts as it was on a lake in middle of the country surrounded by gentle hills.
Thanx

JakeDawg69
92 posts
18 Jan 2023 3:58AM
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Driks said..
Hi guys!
Also got a question here. Last Friday I got a session which was pretty cool at all. But some concerns about it.
I used a 7.5 sqm wing. In gusts it was to big but in lulls I needed it, best would be an 6.5 I guess but I dont got one. I mostly used the PNG 1150 with it. Was speedy with cool glide but not so turntable. Then I switched to the BSC 970 and it exactly closed the gap in manoverability but now I missed the glide and the speed a bit and I earned more Touch downs. So I started to ask me if the HPS 1050 could be the missing link here or can even replace the other two!? What u think? I am intermediate now, started to stand tacks more often, jibes no problem also switch. I like to surf the downwind swell. I am around 95 kg. I think this day was mostly around 15 knots but with heavy gusts as it was on a lake in middle of the country surrounded by gentle hills.
Thanx


I still think the 1050 is a great foil especially at our weight of 95+ kg. Some people say the ART 1099 is better but I would like to hear a direct comparison from the perspective of a heavy rider.

Driks
183 posts
18 Jan 2023 4:29AM
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Hi!
How is it with the possibility to make the png 1150 more turnable by using the advanced fuse ultrashort?

marc5
180 posts
18 Jan 2023 11:00AM
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Jake, what fuse do you use with that 1050?

Driks
183 posts
18 Jan 2023 3:35PM
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?hm Marc this time I just hold the png 1150 and I use the normal short. Which is pretty long compared with my old gong setup. Someone gave me the idea to try an shorter. And the advanced shorts should exactly do what I miss. Make the png more turny. Maybe someone got experience here?
Greetings

Gustenzo
WA, 108 posts
19 Jan 2023 12:51PM
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I (90kg) use the 1050 for DW SUP foil, good fun for me when conditions are 13-20 knots. I have tried the 1099, it has a fairly higher stall speed glides amazing pumps really efficiently but doesn't turn that well. I use the axis 75cm mast and I could feel flex in either the mast or the wings with the 1099, no problems with the 1050. I prefer the 1050 because it turns much better. 1099 has a higher stall speed than the 980 HPS. I use the 980 20 knots and up for DW.

marc5
180 posts
20 Jan 2023 5:51AM
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Need help with my Axis shopping list. Definitely going with the HSP 1050 based on many good reports. However, I'm confused about the fuse and stabilizers--I've been on Slingshot gear, mostly i76 wing.

82kg, 38 sessions, riding a Fanatic Sky Wing 125L generally on flat water, 6.5m wing in 12-20mph. Good upwind/downwind/startup skills but still finding jibing difficult. What fuse and stabilizer would you recommend with a 1050? So many choices. I don't plan on a carbon mast......for now.

Thanks for ideas.

JakeDawg69
92 posts
20 Jan 2023 2:54PM
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marc5 said..
Need help with my Axis shopping list. Definitely going with the HSP 1050 based on many good reports. However, I'm confused about the fuse and stabilizers--I've been on Slingshot gear, mostly i76 wing.

82kg, 38 sessions, riding a Fanatic Sky Wing 125L generally on flat water, 6.5m wing in 12-20mph. Good upwind/downwind/startup skills but still finding jibing difficult. What fuse and stabilizer would you recommend with a 1050? So many choices. I don't plan on a carbon mast......for now.

Thanks for ideas.


I got the black short fuse and the 420 speed rear wing. Don't get the standard fuse - that's for wind foiling on a windsurf setup. I also have the HM Carbon mast - expensive but great. First day will be tricky to get up because it's a high aspect foil and you have to get the timing down. But once you make that first turn downwind, you'll feel the glide! Happy gybing!

lasersailor1661
15 posts
21 Jan 2023 2:10AM
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I would say the perfect set up is short or ultra short fuse, 75-85cm mast 19mm, 420 tail. With a 4m 5m and 7m wings I am covered from 9knts to 35knts with that set up.

caracol
21 posts
21 Jan 2023 2:15AM
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Driks said..
Hi guys!
Also got a question here. Last Friday I got a session which was pretty cool at all. But some concerns about it.
I used a 7.5 sqm wing. In gusts it was to big but in lulls I needed it, best would be an 6.5 I guess but I dont got one. I mostly used the PNG 1150 with it. Was speedy with cool glide but not so turntable. Then I switched to the BSC 970 and it exactly closed the gap in manoverability but now I missed the glide and the speed a bit and I earned more Touch downs. So I started to ask me if the HPS 1050 could be the missing link here or can even replace the other two!? What u think? I am intermediate now, started to stand tacks more often, jibes no problem also switch. I like to surf the downwind swell. I am around 95 kg. I think this day was mostly around 15 knots but with heavy gusts as it was on a lake in middle of the country surrounded by gentle hills.
Thanx




I still think the 1050 is a great foil especially at our weight of 95+ kg. Some people say the ART 1099 is better but I would like to hear a direct comparison from the perspective of a heavy rider.



Hi Jake,
I (95 kg) had both (1050 and 1099). Sold the 1099, kept the 1050. If money didn't matter, I would have kept both. In my opinion, the 1099 needs significantly more starting speed. The more chopy the more difficult. Flat water (in between the waves) helps a lot. This has led to the fact that I have always chosen the handwing with the 1099 a size larger than I would have done with another foil. Easier to start but than annoying to go. The glide on the 1099 is really fantastic. In my opinion, noticeably better than the 1050. For that alone, I would have liked to keep the 1099. The turn didn't convince me, more of a longboard feeling. Used with ultra short fus and 450 P and 375 P stab. Some people report that it works much better with the ad fus. I have been 3 month on the 1099 and about 1 year on the 1050. Still like the 1050 for light wind or very choppy conditions a lot. If it is more windy and more clean I jump on the HPS 930. Based on my experience even the HPS 930 is easier to get going than the 1099. Or maybe it is the improvement of riding-level. Cheers

northy1
490 posts
21 Jan 2023 3:00AM
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caracol said..

JakeDawg69 said..



Driks said..
Hi guys!
Also got a question here. Last Friday I got a session which was pretty cool at all. But some concerns about it.
I used a 7.5 sqm wing. In gusts it was to big but in lulls I needed it, best would be an 6.5 I guess but I dont got one. I mostly used the PNG 1150 with it. Was speedy with cool glide but not so turntable. Then I switched to the BSC 970 and it exactly closed the gap in manoverability but now I missed the glide and the speed a bit and I earned more Touch downs. So I started to ask me if the HPS 1050 could be the missing link here or can even replace the other two!? What u think? I am intermediate now, started to stand tacks more often, jibes no problem also switch. I like to surf the downwind swell. I am around 95 kg. I think this day was mostly around 15 knots but with heavy gusts as it was on a lake in middle of the country surrounded by gentle hills.
Thanx





I still think the 1050 is a great foil especially at our weight of 95+ kg. Some people say the ART 1099 is better but I would like to hear a direct comparison from the perspective of a heavy rider.




Hi Jake,
I (95 kg) had both (1050 and 1099). Sold the 1099, kept the 1050. If money didn't matter, I would have kept both. In my opinion, the 1099 needs significantly more starting speed. The more chopy the more difficult. Flat water (in between the waves) helps a lot. This has led to the fact that I have always chosen the handwing with the 1099 a size larger than I would have done with another foil. Easier to start but than annoying to go. The glide on the 1099 is really fantastic. In my opinion, noticeably better than the 1050. For that alone, I would have liked to keep the 1099. The turn didn't convince me, more of a longboard feeling. Used with ultra short fus and 450 P and 375 P stab. Some people report that it works much better with the ad fus. I have been 3 month on the 1099 and about 1 year on the 1050. Still like the 1050 for light wind or very choppy conditions a lot. If it is more windy and more clean I jump on the HPS 930. Based on my experience even the HPS 930 is easier to get going than the 1099. Or maybe it is the improvement of riding-level. Cheers


interesting feedback
i too have the 930 and 1050 and now 999
i bought the 999 as i didnt feel at circa 90kg the 930 gave me the glide i was looking for ie to flag out the wing and ride waves and swell....difficult to be sure how it compares for tunrning as its hard for me to compare / ride wings back to back currently but i would assume 930 being less wide is better....but its not eaxctly like we are throwing buckets when we wing so long cruisey turns are fine with me. the 1050 is definately a keeper still....more fun than the 1150, and more lift than the 999.

Driks
183 posts
21 Jan 2023 4:14AM
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Hey Jake!
Sorry don't know how to add prior posts. But what u think about the wind condition. With what strength and wing size the heavier guys can go for the 1050? I am intermediate yet. Means I started to learn tacks, got good pump tech I think. Not brilliant but good. What is realistic even if Homespot it's a more gusty BS lake?
Cheers

JakeDawg69
92 posts
21 Jan 2023 5:18AM
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Driks said..
Hey Jake!
Sorry don't know how to add prior posts. But what u think about the wind condition. With what strength and wing size the heavier guys can go for the 1050? I am intermediate yet. Means I started to learn tacks, got good pump tech I think. Not brilliant but good. What is realistic even if Homespot it's a more gusty BS lake?
Cheers



I probably need a good, five second, 13 knot gust to get my 100kg plus wetsuit up on the 1050 in fresh water on a 118L board with a 6m.

rmitch
23 posts
26 Jan 2023 9:06AM
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Driks said..
?hm Marc this time I just hold the png 1150 and I use the normal short. Which is pretty long compared with my old gong setup. Someone gave me the idea to try an shorter. And the advanced shorts should exactly do what I miss. Make the png more turny. Maybe someone got experience here?
Greetings


Hi Driks, I found great success with the 1150, crazy short, 370 freeride or 425p stabs. Very turny and responsive, the 425p giving it a bit more speed (could also go with 375p, or 400p stabs) I'm 85kg, riding a Fanatic 5' 0 SkyWing

Driks
183 posts
27 Jan 2023 6:30AM
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Hey cool and thanks. I bought the ultrashort advanced. Hope it will do it. But thus time winter arrived in Europe. So I have to wait for wind and and not frozen lake.
Cheers

Northern Monkey
SA, 104 posts
28 Jan 2023 12:13PM
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Hi all
learning a lot here.
I think I have confused myself.
I recently promoted myself from an Axis SES 940 set up to a HPS 1050 set up. What I have found is once it gets a little windy say 18knots plus the 1050 becomes just two hard and I get the 940 back out. Basically dropping from a 6m Unit to a 4m!am I under selling the wind range of the HPS1050?
I am 92kg and currently wing on flattish lakes with aspirations to hit the coast.
thanks for your help.
Mick

lasersailor1661
15 posts
1 Feb 2023 9:35PM
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marc5 said..
Need help with my Axis shopping list. Definitely going with the HSP 1050 based on many good reports. However, I'm confused about the fuse and stabilizers--I've been on Slingshot gear, mostly i76 wing.

82kg, 38 sessions, riding a Fanatic Sky Wing 125L generally on flat water, 6.5m wing in 12-20mph. Good upwind/downwind/startup skills but still finding jibing difficult. What fuse and stabilizer would you recommend with a 1050? So many choices. I don't plan on a carbon mast......for now.

Thanks for ideas.


I sent you a PM about tail/ fuse

Donathon
78 posts
4 Feb 2023 9:41PM
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I am 86kg and love the HPS1050, just glides and glides with the 425 progressive stab, i use it from 8knts of wind with the strike 8m all the way up to 25-28knts with a 4.5m.The other day I went on my 880HPS with 4.5m as the sea had a lot of chop and swell, this was a bit harder to get up on foil, and was noticeably more skittish under foil, but again, flew up wind and glide was just ongoing. I love the HPS set up, just need to get a shorter board in the future.

marc5
180 posts
8 Mar 2023 12:20PM
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I'm still a wing newbie, but I thought I would add my thoughts after my first session on my 1050 yesterday (40 years windsurfing, 3 years windfoiling, last season 38 sessions wingfoiling). Full disclosure--I' competent but still can't jibe. 82 kgs., 69 years young.

Spent my first season last year on my windfoil foil, Slingshot i76, and yesterday was the first time I had been on any other foil. 1050/short black/425 Progressive/82cm alum mast/Fanatic 125L Sky Wing. Conditions were high teens gusting to mid 20s mph, 4.5m Slick. What a difference!! The 1050 setup is so much more stable at the full range of speeds, unlike the i76. Wow. No problems at all getting acclimated. Very easy to fly. Screamed upwind and very well-mannered off the wind. Much more acceleration than the i76. I enjoyed the carving but.....I didn't make any jibes. The water temperature was 47F so I didn't push it too hard.

Bottom line is I already love the 1050 and expect to be jibing soon. So I highly recommend it for even rookie/intermediate level.

warwickl
NSW, 2353 posts
8 Mar 2023 5:17PM
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Considering the 1050 HPS , me 75kg, ok in all wind to about 8 to 30kn and jybe in both directions.
I did have the 1050 before I could jybe and found it hard to jybe.
Now Considering it for Windwing down wind and obviously will still need to jybe.
As said I can jybe my current foils eg HPS 930 and ARTs 899, 799 and 699.
At 75kg will the 1050 still be a bit big for me jybing?

MrFish
194 posts
8 Mar 2023 2:44PM
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Northern Monkey said..
Hi all
learning a lot here.
I think I have confused myself.
I recently promoted myself from an Axis SES 940 set up to a HPS 1050 set up. What I have found is once it gets a little windy say 18knots plus the 1050 becomes just two hard and I get the 940 back out. Basically dropping from a 6m Unit to a 4m!am I under selling the wind range of the HPS1050?
I am 92kg and currently wing on flattish lakes with aspirations to hit the coast.
thanks for your help.
Mick


What stab are you running. I am 85kg and use a HPS1050 with 400p, all the way into 25knts on a 4.5 slick. You should be sweet in flat water at your weight.



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