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Armstrong V2 1550 vs 1850 hs

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Created by goggo > 9 months ago, 5 Sep 2021
goggo
374 posts
5 Sep 2021 7:29AM
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Currently I am on a one foil quiver, the V2 1550 which is fine for all the sup foiling I do, but for winging in 10-15 knots with a 5 m wing, I can get on foil occasionally.
The winds will get stronger in summer, then, I probably won't need an 1850. Just getting a little edgy waiting for the season to change.
How much extra lift do you get out of an 1850?

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
5 Sep 2021 7:49AM
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From what ive heard the 1550 V2 is closer to the 1250 than the 1850 if you know what i mean. That is some have said to me they were hoping for more easier access to lift on the 1550 V2 after get rid of their 1850. That being said the 1850 is a slow ass slug compared to the 1550 without also the glide the 1550 creates. Pros and cons as always.
ps i could be wrong.

radair
151 posts
5 Sep 2021 9:46AM
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1850 is my low wind foil. It is pretty amazing how slow it will go before dropping. Noticeably different than the 1550V2

Windoc
442 posts
5 Sep 2021 9:58AM
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Funny, I don't feel like the 1850 is a slug at all. And that's after having ridden the 1125 and 925. I haven't ridden the 1550V2, but the 1850 gets up fast, turns well enough and is so easy to ride.

goggo
374 posts
5 Sep 2021 10:02AM
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Thanks, anyone got an 1850 they want to sell?

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
5 Sep 2021 2:06PM
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Can555 said..
Funny, I don't feel like the 1850 is a slug at all. And that's after having ridden the 1125 and 925. I haven't ridden the 1550V2, but the 1850 gets up fast, turns well enough and is so easy to ride.





Your having us on arent you? Was great to learn on but man it was yawn material after too long. Goes real early though - perfect for marginal conditions.


i also found it an average pumper. But then again there is a local sup foiler who makes it piss - depends hey on the user i suppose.


i feel a hell of a lot has to do with tail choice and shimming as well. Been mucking around with lots of different tail / shim setups and the difference is unbelievable.

goggo
374 posts
5 Sep 2021 5:39PM
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After hearing about a fatal shark attack in my old stomping grounds not that far south of my current abode, sticking to one wing and choosing my sessions based on quality might be wiser.

Windoc
442 posts
5 Sep 2021 11:49PM
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eppo said..




Your having us on arent you? Was great to learn on but man it was yawn material after too long. Goes real early though - perfect for marginal conditions.


i also found it an average pumper. But then again there is a local sup foiler who makes it piss - depends hey on the user i suppose.


i feel a hell of a lot has to do with tail choice and shimming as well. Been mucking around with lots of different tail / shim setups and the difference is unbelievable.


Haha, not at all! I've spent the most time on the 1850 as it's all I had to start for the first 5 months. I've ridden it in head high surf on the SUP, in up to 30 knots on the wing and everything in between, so I've got a better sense of this foil than any other I've ridden. Don't get me wrong; I'd rather ride the 1250 or now the 925, but I always enjoy hopping back on the 1850 for easy glides and pumping, surprisingly good turns (232 tail with 1.5 deg shim), decent speed and easy foot switches. I recently picked up the V-tail which should loosen the ride further. I'm in no rush to sell it.

Pasquales
204 posts
6 Sep 2021 12:52AM
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My two wings are 1250 and 1850. The 1850 is my daily driver, as typical days are 10-12 knots. I've ridden the 1850 in 30 knots on a trip when it was all I owned. Its a good wing, that can dependably used in a wide range of conditions. A buddy who weighs close to my weight has the 1550 v2 likes it. I've noticed when we use similar size hand wings, it takes him longer to get up. We both have 75 L sinker boards, so winging in lite winds can be difficult. Personally I prefer sacrificing some speed for ease in pumping to get going.

goggo
374 posts
6 Sep 2021 5:09PM
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Pasquales said..
My two wings are 1250 and 1850. The 1850 is my daily driver, as typical days are 10-12 knots. I've ridden the 1850 in 30 knots on a trip when it was all I owned. Its a good wing, that can dependably used in a wide range of conditions. A buddy who weighs close to my weight has the 1550 v2 likes it. I've noticed when we use similar size hand wings, it takes him longer to get up. We both have 75 L sinker boards, so winging in lite winds can be difficult. Personally I prefer sacrificing some speed for ease in pumping to get going.


Thanks good feedback, just bought 2nd hand 7 m wing for cheap, so, will stick to one wing under water.

greg87foil
145 posts
6 Sep 2021 11:10PM
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I sold my 1850 and bought a 1550v2 instead for the lowest of winds, up until it's nuking enough to use my 1250. I learned on the 1850 and still love that foil, it's fast and slippery for its size. But once I became better at pumping up to get on foil, I didn't see myself using the 1850 anymore if I also had the 1550v2 in my quiver, so I sold it.

Agree that the 1550v2 is closer to the 1250, but it's definitely got a higher low end than the 1250. The 1850 of course has even lower low end, but with good pumping technique the 1550v2 can also be used in low winds.

If winds will get stronger in summer, definitely stick to the 1550v2 and focus on improving pumping technique I'd say.

This is my personal experience, I also know people who hold on to their 1850 bc it's so easy to get up and going.

I'm 79kg.

EltonRobinson
VIC, 21 posts
16 Aug 2022 2:00PM
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Windoc said..



eppo said..





Your having us on arent you? Was great to learn on but man it was yawn material after too long. Goes real early though - perfect for marginal conditions.


i also found it an average pumper. But then again there is a local sup foiler who makes it piss - depends hey on the user i suppose.


i feel a hell of a lot has to do with tail choice and shimming as well. Been mucking around with lots of different tail / shim setups and the difference is unbelievable.



Haha, not at all! I've spent the most time on the 1850 as it's all I had to start for the first 5 months. I've ridden it in head high surf on the SUP, in up to 30 knots on the wing and everything in between, so I've got a better sense of this foil than any other I've ridden. Don't get me wrong; I'd rather ride the 1250 or now the 925, but I always enjoy hopping back on the 1850 for easy glides and pumping, surprisingly good turns (232 tail with 1.5 deg shim), decent speed and easy foot switches. I recently picked up the V-tail which should loosen the ride further. I'm in no rush to sell it.


Reckon at 95kg I could begin using 1850, or reckon I need more area, eg CF2400 or at least a CF2050?

beached57
127 posts
16 Aug 2022 8:05PM
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Reckon at 95kg I could begin using 1850, or reckon I need more area, eg CF2400 or at least a CF2050?


i'm about 90kgs, have 2400, 1850, 1250. i don't find i use the 2400 anymore, really doesn't give me anything over the 1850, and the 1850 is much more fun. the 1250 i rarely use because we just don't get that much wind. the 1250 drops if i'm schlogging, the 1850 can almost come to a complete stand still and remain up. Was going to get the 1550 before i ended up with the 1250, but a friend told me too much overlap with the 1850, so went 1250 instead. the 1850 gets 95% of my water time.



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