Hi I have problems to learn to jibe an stay switched on the board (windsurfer). Pumping and gliding is working good. Which stabilizer would you prefer to learn jibes and stay switched, Armstrong HS232 or CF300. I use a HS1850, my weight is 94 kg. I like the HS232 verry much. The 300 is more stable to learn but has more drag. I thinking of shim it. Is there someone with experience? 
My 2cents... If you've already got the 232 tail, just stick with that. I started on the 300 and moved to the 232 and don't see the reason why you would want to go back to a 300 once you're past a "beginner" phase. I don't think learning to ride switch will be significantly easier on the 300 vs. 232 (and the 232 will give more glide speed for the gybe). Just practice more :-)
I have done exactly what you are trying and concluded that staying with the 232 was the easiest set up with the HS1850. (93kg and 57 years young). You get much better glide through the turn with the HS. I recently bought a CF2400 for SUP foil and tried the full CF set up winging the other day. Boy did it feel slow but the GPS Speed wasn't too bad and it felt like it was never going to stall but it doesn't glide nearly as well. Gybe was good if there was a swell to push off.
My gybe to switch is now pretty good and I am starting to get better angles upwind with more control in switch stance. (Also coming from windsurfing). Advice that helped me was to concentrate on pushing my leading knee over my toes. Apparently this is good in snowboarding and it seems to work winging as I did much better when I tried that.
Thank you kiwiupover and FarNorthSurfer. I think more time one the water, speed, glide and riding the foil not the board in the jibe is the key. I experienced a wobble in my 85A+ mast with the CF300 I never felt with the HS232. That`s annoying. The idea was to +shim the CF300 with the result of more speed and stability. Is there someone who has tried this?
The position of your body plays a vastly more influencial role over the behaviour of the foil during gybes and riding toeside than the stabiliser. This will improve with attention and time on the water. The equipment responds to the inputs you provide with your body.
There's another recent thread discussing this topic with tons of great feedback and tips.
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Thank you kiwiupover and FarNorthSurfer. I think more time one the water, speed, glide and riding the foil not the board in the jibe is the key. I experienced a wobble in my 85A+ mast with the CF300 I never felt with the HS232. That`s annoying. The idea was to +shim the CF300 with the result of more speed and stability. Is there someone who has tried this?
I'm running an HS1850/CF300 with a 0.5 deg shim. I'd say it feels more loose and 'slippery' through the water, not more stable though. Had the shim in for about 10 sessions and will try the 1 degree soon for comparison. The shims should have come with the stab and it only takes a minute to fit them - give it a go!
For info I'm 85kg on 95l board.
The idea of shimming the CF300 was to get less CF300 drag and receive more role stability compared to the HS232. I will try it on the water ..
Select to expand quoteWingOut said..
Thank you kiwiupover and FarNorthSurfer. I think more time one the water, speed, glide and riding the foil not the board in the jibe is the key. I experienced a wobble in my 85A+ mast with the CF300 I never felt with the HS232. That`s annoying. The idea was to +shim the CF300 with the result of more speed and stability. Is there someone who has tried this?
I started using a .5 shim (blue one) on the 300 tail after a couple of months learning to foil. Made it a little faster, but once i tried the 232 i sold the 300. I don't see the point of the 300 tail after you've started using the 232 tail. if you can foil ok on the 232 i don't think there is much benefit going back to the 300. The shimmed 300 is not as good for glide and speed as the 232.
But, I see in your first post that you're on a windsurf/WINDfoil board? If that's the case, it's probably a pretty big board to control. A WINGfoil board will be smaller and easier to control. When i was learning, even switching down from my learner 6'4" wingfoil board to a 5'8" wingfoil board made things easier for me gybing and riding switch. If you're on a windfoil board i can imagine the extra length is that much harder to conrtol through gybes etc.
There is a rather minuscule difference in stability between CF300 and HS232 but quite significant difference in drag, speed, and glide. So as kiwiupover noted I also don't see any point in using CF300 with HS front wings.
My board is a Naish Hover S26 110l. I am a windsurfer, not my board for winging :-) I think it's fine for my weight (94 kg) and suits nice to the Armstrong foil! I think I stick with the 232 to learn my jibes. Thanks for your advice!
