Currently working on learning transitions with Armstrong FG 5'11" and HS1850 and 1250 on 85cm mast and 60 fuse.
As I am thinking of adding a 60cm mast for SUP Foil on a shallow water beach I considered getting a complete foil with a CF2400.
Anyone used both and know if the 2400 will add much stability for learning transitions compared to the 1850?
I think it might also be good in small surf which would be another reason to add it to the quiver or again it's just too close to the 1850.
Really enjoying the Armstrong kit and very happy with both 1850 and 1250. Actually already using the CF300 stab which gave me a little speed reduction and better pitch stability at slower speeds.
Weight is 93kg at the moment. All alone winging here mostly so no one to learn from.
Select to expand quoteFarNorthSurfer said..
Currently working on learning transitions with Armstrong FG 5'11" and HS1850 and 1250 on 85cm mast and 60 fuse.
As I am thinking of adding a 60cm mast for SUP Foil on a shallow water beach I considered getting a complete foil with a CF2400.
Anyone used both and know if the 2400 will add much stability for learning transitions compared to the 1850?
I think it might also be good in small surf which would be another reason to add it to the quiver or again it's just too close to the 1850.
Really enjoying the Armstrong kit and very happy with both 1850 and 1250. Actually already using the CF300 stab which gave me a little speed reduction and better pitch stability at slower speeds.
Weight is 93kg at the moment. All alone winging here mostly so no one to learn from.
The 2400 is so slow you will not enjoy it after the 1850. The 1850 is much better, stick with it.
I have no idea if Armstrong have longer fuselages available but I use Naish and the 80cm fuselage makes the foil extremely stable. It's almost impossible to miss a foot switch and the gybes a smooth and easy. A longer fuselage is a cheaper option.
I struggled to learn to gybe on a 1900 wing, too much lift through the turn, dropped to a 1400 and it was easier to control.
For me too jibes were a lot easier to learn on a little smaller wing. I pretty much made my jibes the 3rd session on a 1400, but had trouble after 20 sessions on a 2200 because it was so slow. Slow foils means you have to maintain pressure in the wing through the turn, awful.
The 1850 has tons of lift and is more efficient than the 2400 so it'll be easier to glide through transitions. I sold it after I learned to use the 1550v2 in lighter winds, but I wish I hadn't bc it would've been amazing to have to learn to downwind.
Thanks for the positive advice. Think I will stick with the 1850 and save my money. Although I still might buy a 60cm mast for the SUP surf and consider a 70cm fuselage if I get past 1000 crashes before I crack gybes and tacks.
The advice to learn transitions with the smaller foil also makes sense. The 1250 does seem easier to keep speed on in the turns.
Did you start on the HS1850? I saw a full set for sale including the 1850 and wondering if big enough for my 95 kg, as I notice that you're a similar size.
Select to expand quoteFarNorthSurfer said..
Thanks for the positive advice. Think I will stick with the 1850 and save my money. Although I still might buy a 60cm mast for the SUP surf and consider a 70cm fuselage if I get past 1000 crashes before I crack gybes and tacks.
The advice to learn transitions with the smaller foil also makes sense. The 1250 does seem easier to keep speed on in the turns.
yes, stick to the 1850. but the 1250 is not easier for transitions. yes, if you have plenty of speed it will glide better throughout, but the 1850 is so much more forgiving and doesn't require you to have so much speed. between the 2, i'd sell my 1250 if i had to (but i don't).
I love my CF2400 for summer lite wind conditions. So much easier to get on foil than 1850. It comes up nice and gentle. Using to learn tacks. Mostly riding in small chop lake. I pair it with the HA195 tail so that helps loosen it up and make it ride a bit faster. I can imagine in swell it would be a bit much.
I understand they stopped making the Cf2400 and plan to come out with a new CF2500. No idea when??
80kg
88kg, 90L board. Learned on the 1850. Super stable, was getting gybes and foot switches down. It is a great foil. At your size it should work well. What is happening when you gybe? You might want to play around with the mast position or try a 232 tail or a shim.
Hi,
is someone using the 300 stabiliser with the HS1850? I have only experience with the HS232. It could be a cheaper alternative to learn transition on a more stable platform with the HS1850, which is super good, without buying a new front wing. Or is this combination too draggy and slow? 
