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Aluula who's next?

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Created by Fishdude > 9 months ago, 13 Nov 2021
Fishdude
315 posts
13 Nov 2021 2:26AM
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Ocean Rodeo obviously first, and I see Duotone well into its proto type stage. So my question is who else is going to have Aluula wing offering soon?

I'm really digging the CWC wings but I'm wishing and a hoping... they go in on this uber stiff, durable, lighter weight construction soon.

wingedsurfer
67 posts
13 Nov 2021 3:01AM
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Strike V2 is coming in the next 2 months.. so let's see

Jeroensurf
1072 posts
13 Nov 2021 3:04AM
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My wings getting bagged out on the panels and I can't see how and extremely stiff tube or strut gonna change that....

Velocicraptor
814 posts
13 Nov 2021 3:15AM
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Ive heard of or seen prototypes with what appears to be Aluula from Ensis, RRD, and Ozone.

Grantmac
2317 posts
13 Nov 2021 3:47AM
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Jeroensurf said..
My wings getting bagged out on the panels and I can't see how and extremely stiff tube or strut gonna change that....


This right here. Why spend huge amounts just to have the canopy wear out in the same amount of speed.

northy1
491 posts
13 Nov 2021 5:00AM
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i thought the same until i saw Tuckers 3 reviews of the OR Glide....he seemed to buzzin about it

here is the 2nd one

Fishdude
315 posts
13 Nov 2021 5:14AM
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Grantmac said..


Jeroensurf said..
My wings getting bagged out on the panels and I can't see how and extremely stiff tube or strut gonna change that....




This right here. Why spend huge amounts just to have the canopy wear out in the same amount of speed.



Good point!

My desire is mostly having the best light wind wing possible. I went 3 months this summer with not enough wind to fly at all. Actually almost 4 months :(

Lighter weight, and stiffer frame for more efficient pumping could be the secret sauce needed to get there. Maybe even the smaller diameter LE could help with upwind ability in light wind.
CWC 8m in Aluula seems like a perfect marriage for someone my size, living in marginal wind area. I'd also expect light wind sailing be less prone to bagging out, so maybe not as much of a concern.

Bagging out may be more of a concern in high wind areas, or more aggressive (better) wingers who get more flight time than others.

bigtone667
NSW, 1543 posts
13 Nov 2021 8:23AM
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Fishdude said..

Grantmac said..



Jeroensurf said..
My wings getting bagged out on the panels and I can't see how and extremely stiff tube or strut gonna change that....





This right here. Why spend huge amounts just to have the canopy wear out in the same amount of speed.




Good point!

My desire is mostly having the best light wind wing possible. I went 3 months this summer with not enough wind to fly at all. Actually almost 4 months :(

Lighter weight, and stiffer frame for more efficient pumping could be the secret sauce needed to get there. Maybe even the smaller diameter LE could help with upwind ability in light wind.
CWC 8m in Aluula seems like a perfect marriage for someone my size, living in marginal wind area. I'd also expect light wind sailing be less prone to bagging out, so maybe not as much of a concern.

Bagging out may be more of a concern in high wind areas, or more aggressive (better) wingers who get more flight time than others.


Most of the bagging out that we see is on the larger wings and is from pumping to get onto the foil

Alysum
NSW, 1030 posts
13 Nov 2021 8:29AM
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wingedsurfer said..
Strike V2 is coming in the next 2 months.. so let's see

Really. That is quick... They are still struggling with availability of the CWC.

MidAtlanticFoil
818 posts
13 Nov 2021 6:23AM
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Jeroensurf said..
My wings getting bagged out on the panels and I can't see how and extremely stiff tube or strut gonna change that....


I've seen some exciting new fabrics that may address your concern here. Second hand reports and photos from a tester who was frothing to get back on the prototype, but it was gone as quick as it showed up.

I think by this time next year there will be some insane options on the market. Wish I could say/show more.

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
13 Nov 2021 7:02AM
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.. And let's not forget it's not just the material, but the overall design, including handles that matters as well for the intended winging style. Agreed canopy wear is the issue for longevity.

Clamsmasha
WA, 311 posts
13 Nov 2021 10:00AM
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I wonder if we'll see rigid/semi rigid wings like Kitewing in future?

tightlines
WA, 3501 posts
13 Nov 2021 12:44PM
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Clamsmasha said..
I wonder if we'll see rigid/semi rigid wings like Kitewing in future?


I predict we will.

dejavu
825 posts
13 Nov 2021 10:14PM
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They have to be careful with cost. The hardcore will pay just about anything for slight overall improvements but the general public won't. I'm old enough to remember the huge popularity of windsurfing in the early 1980's, which the industry literally killed by moving the equipment away from relatively inexpensive and simple to expensive and technical -- it's a fine balance. Slingshot is smart enough to offer what is basically a "cottage" wing in its lineup -- cheap and simple and therefore less intimidating. What equipment we actually need to wing foil and what we want are often two different things! Sometimes the expensive thing we want turns out to be a huge disappointment and we're off chasing something else.

Pacey
WA, 525 posts
14 Nov 2021 5:51PM
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So are the Aluula wings going to have smaller diameter leading edge tubes than their non-Aluula equivalents, seeing as they will take higher pressures? For example is the Duotone Unit Aluula 5.0 going to be the same or different diameter front tube than the non-Aluula 5.0m Unit?

Jeroensurf
1072 posts
15 Nov 2021 3:10AM
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MidAtlanticFoil said..

Jeroensurf said..
My wings getting bagged out on the panels and I can't see how and extremely stiff tube or strut gonna change that....



I've seen some exciting new fabrics that may address your concern here. Second hand reports and photos from a tester who was frothing to get back on the prototype, but it was gone as quick as it showed up.

I think by this time next year there will be some insane options on the market. Wish I could say/show more.


I will wait patiently, but its good to see i'm not the only one with these concerns. :)

martyman
WA, 366 posts
15 Nov 2021 1:53PM
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Realistically the longevity card is overplayed. These things are so prone to damage its a miracle if you last a season of steady use without real damage. If you want something that lasts...don't get into winging

Jeroensurf
1072 posts
15 Nov 2021 2:54PM
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Maybe i,m really lucky but besides I had a tiny puncture in a bladder I never had any damage this year within 98 sessions so far on flat water and waves. And longevity, the first monofilm sails were crap as well till they evolved, starting using better material etc etc.



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