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WA windsurfing spot advice

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Created by Tasdoc > 9 months ago, 14 Dec 2020
Tasdoc
VIC, 100 posts
14 Dec 2020 10:54AM
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Hi folks. Just booked a trip to WA for 2 weeks in January. It's my first trip so any advice on good spots would be very much appreciated. I am after flat water blasting and practicing planing jibes. So I need reasonably shallow water where I could just jump back on the board and go after a failed jibe, rather than spending time and energy on waterstarting.
Thanks

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
14 Dec 2020 8:03AM
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Safety bay and mandurah are probably the best flat water spots.

The sand bar across to penguin island (safety bay) is probably as close as you'll get to what youre after, but youll need a smallish weed fin for it.
(Safety bay is about 50km south of perth, mandurah is a bit further again)

Tasdoc
VIC, 100 posts
14 Dec 2020 11:15AM
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Thanks
One more thing I forgot to mention is more consistent winds as I only have 2 weeks. I heard that north of Perth wind tends to be more reliable.

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
14 Dec 2020 12:45PM
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Winds around perth greater metro are generally quite consistent. it is true that its more consistent further up north, but realistically, you'll have to travel up to cervantes (about 270km north of perth) before you get to that more consistent wind. Lancelin (In between the two) quite often isn't much more consistent than perth. it does have some flattish water inside the reef, but its too deep to stand for the larger part.


Lancelin and cervantes are both great spots to sail, the wind in cervantes generally gets up closer to 25-30 knots (and thats also true for further north) theres one flattish section right in the corner of the bay, but its too deep to stand.


i guess it depends on how far you're keen to travel, and whether you want to do some general blasting around as well. If you're planning on heading away from perth, i'd definitely be heading North rather than south. But the catch 22 is that the majority of the Sailable flat water is south of perth.

PM me when you get here if you like, if you're not planning on heading off from perth straight away, come for a sail at one of the local spots. i can explain a lot more face to face in 5min than i can Message to message on SB

Tasdoc
VIC, 100 posts
14 Dec 2020 4:15PM
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I've heard a lot of good stuff about Shark Bay, that's probably how far I will be willing to travel if it ticks all the boxes.

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
14 Dec 2020 1:55PM
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Tasdoc said..
I've heard a lot of good stuff about Shark Bay, that's probably how far I will be willing to travel if it ticks all the boxes.


Ah yes, shelly beach

decrepit
WA, 12772 posts
14 Dec 2020 5:39PM
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Depends how strong you want the wind, Shark bay can get over 30kts that time of year, not the best for practising gybes, but great for blasting.

Mandurah used to have plenty of extremely flat water, but there's not much weed this year, so there's really only one small spot with flat water. And yes Mandurah wind is usually a few knots lighter than Perth or Safety Bay

Brett812
NSW, 14 posts
15 Dec 2020 7:26PM
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Subsonic said..
Safety bay and mandurah are probably the best flat water spots.

The sand bar across to penguin island (safety bay) is probably as close as you'll get to what youre after, but youll need a smallish weed fin for it.
(Safety bay is about 50km south of perth, mandurah is a bit further again)


I have heard it is busy down there, is there a separate windsurfing /kiting stripor area like at Lucky Bay?

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
15 Dec 2020 8:49PM
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Brett812 said..

Subsonic said..
Safety bay and mandurah are probably the best flat water spots.

The sand bar across to penguin island (safety bay) is probably as close as you'll get to what youre after, but youll need a smallish weed fin for it.
(Safety bay is about 50km south of perth, mandurah is a bit further again)



I have heard it is busy down there, is there a separate windsurfing /kiting stripor area like at Lucky Bay?


Not really. Most windsurfers Rig at Carlise street now, leaving the skanky pond to the kiters. Rigging up at carlise st, really only ever need to interact with a few of them, and theres plenty of water for all.

tasdoc: you may also like to try the pond at safety bay. the water is flat(i learned to gybe in there) but as far as im concerned the glory days in there are gone for windsurfing. The point (tern island) shelters it too much so theres a lack of wind, the water is skanky And its full of kiters.

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
15 Dec 2020 10:03PM
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Ok, i've marked some pics up. Black circle is general sailing area, yellow circles are flat(tish) water


Safety bay: Weed fin generally required, but if you can live with towing some to the sandbar (to penguin island) with you, its not too bad over the sandbar itself. rig at carlise st boat ramp, which is the western most driveway to the beach between the two yellow circles. Try to park on The roadside as the rangers are nazis about the trailer parking. If you want to try the pond (eastern yellow circle.) rig on the grassed area just west of bent st boat ramp.

Lancelin: Weed fin generally not required. everyone rigs at the surf club near the southern point as most are there to sail waves on the other side of the reef. but if you want to sail the flat water, i'd rig up closer to the tavern (the driveway to the beach at the northern end of the black circle) to give yourself a bit more space to sail the seabreeze without hitting the reef. Keep in mind that its an offshore breeze sailing this area.
Cervantes: Weed fin generally not required. rig up at thirsty point which is the point on the north end of the black circle. Alternatively you can follow the dirt rd south just out of town, and it'll lead you to the beach right where the southern flattish water spot is and rig there, the beach sand is fairly compact so you can drive onto the beach and rig there. (At your discretion, the sand will find every crevice in your vehicle when the wind's up). Keep an eye out for the occy pots everywhere: two small bouys, generally on the verge of sinking with all the weed growth (aka camouflage).

theres also some nice flat water on the north side of town, but it can be gusty, being sheltered by the town and all. (Not to mention it's offshore on a seabreeze.) i wouldn't recommend confining sailing to directly west of thirsty point as it confused chop. Sail straight upwind into the bay.

the water up there is crystal clear and it can be deceiving. It looks like extremely shallow water In some spots but provided you stay over sand youre generally in over a metre of water. Don't sail over dark spots (reefs) because they are generally shallow. Its great fun sailing out in the bay at cervantes, but i wouldn't call it the flat water you're after. Head straight to the yellow circles if you want flat.

or alternatively, just go straight to shelly beach

Tasdoc
VIC, 100 posts
16 Dec 2020 9:38AM
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Subsonic
thanks heaps. Appreciate your time and effort

It's quite a drive to Shark bay from Perth, so I will probably spend a day in Lancelin on the way there and a day in Cervantes on the way back

decrepit
WA, 12772 posts
16 Dec 2020 8:57AM
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There's also Coronation bay at Geraldton, that's certainly worth a look. It's one of the most fun places I've ever sailed. Flat water on the inside and endless jumps on the outside

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
16 Dec 2020 10:14AM
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Yeah completely forgot about coros., ive heard nothing but good about it, but haven't managed to sail there myself yet, i'll leave it for someone else to explain...

forgot to mention it you sail the flat water on the north side of cervantes, rig up on the beach at the northern point (where the big patch of sand is, again, its compact so you can drive on it. sailing back upwind to thirsty point on a seabreeze won't be fun.

Stretchy
WA, 1039 posts
16 Dec 2020 10:49AM
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Some great advice above. Mandurah (Liptons) is the flattest and so super easy gybing. Even though winds not quite as strong as Safety Bay, the highest speeds are usually recorded at Liptons due to the better water conditions. You can get some flat water in the pond at SB but it's overrun with kiters. If you cop a run of easterly winds, the west coast will be crap, but it could well be honking down in Albany - a 4hr drive and you can be at one of the best speed sailing locations in Aus ("Lilacs", Delta fin required).

Brett812
NSW, 14 posts
17 Dec 2020 8:15AM
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Great info there, love the maps, I am heading over Friday night, looks like heat wave with litlle wind next week
Funny thing is I learnt to windsurf in Perth ten years ago and never sailed anywhere but Lucky Bay.
Will have a week or so in Albany, "Lilacs" looks great! Delta fin packed! I assume its deeper up near sailing club ?

decrepit
WA, 12772 posts
17 Dec 2020 8:35AM
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Ok this was last week, the deepest spots are in the middle of the pic, chest to waist depending on tide. The thick red stuff at top left is where we stay and launch from, Lilacs water front cabins. Watch the sand bank at the bottom of the pic, even at low tide it's best to sail right on to it. There's a very steep drop off, if you don't step onto the sand, you could be in waist deep water struggling to get free of the weed. If the tide is high there's a large area where the weed doesn't come right to the surface and you can get away with a normal weedy.

Stretch doesn't say delta, just because it's shallow, it can be over waist deep and still have very thick weed all the way to the surface. a 50 degree rake is minimum requirement but I found that very draggy, 55 degrees was much better. And I don't think Stretch means Maui Deltas, if tide is high and wind strong, there's probably too much chop in the middle for them. The nautical mile run is shallow at the end so if you want to do that, a shallow fin is a good idea.

decrepit
WA, 12772 posts
17 Dec 2020 9:24AM
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Of course the best piece of advise, is to watch what's happening with the border!!!! With new cases in NSW the WA border could shut again at any time, to be stuck in the middle of the Nullabor would be no fun, and two weeks quarantine would totally stuff your holiday

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
17 Dec 2020 12:55PM
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Of course the best piece of advise, is to watch what's happening with the border!!!! With new cases in NSW the WA border could shut again at any time, to be stuck in the middle of the Nullabor would be no fun, and two weeks quarantine would totally stuff your holiday


Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you could end up in SA for 2 weeks before getting to WA (if driving). How quickly things change with Covid.

Stretchy
WA, 1039 posts
17 Dec 2020 8:10PM
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FormulaNova said..

decrepit said..
Of course the best piece of advise, is to watch what's happening with the border!!!! With new cases in NSW the WA border could shut again at any time, to be stuck in the middle of the Nullabor would be no fun, and two weeks quarantine would totally stuff your holiday



Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you could end up in SA for 2 weeks before getting to WA (if driving). How quickly things change with Covid.


Bugger, you'd have to hang out at Lake George then!

morts
WA, 186 posts
17 Dec 2020 9:18PM
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If you get to Albany Tasdoc send me a PM & I'll see if I can arrange someone to give you a basic rundown of Lilacs

Stuthepirate
SA, 3591 posts
19 Dec 2020 3:14PM
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decrepit said..
Of course the best piece of advise, is to watch what's happening with the border!!!! With new cases in NSW the WA border could shut again at any time, to be stuck in the middle of the Nullabor would be no fun, and two weeks quarantine would totally stuff your holiday


And bushfires.. Got stuck at at norseman last year.



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