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Visa expiry date looming. Job options?

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Created by flanagaj > 9 months ago, 24 Sep 2014
flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
24 Sep 2014 5:03PM
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Hi All,

Posted on here before, but the Wife and I are really now starting to grasp that our perm residency visa will expire April 2015 and as a result I am starting to look at possible job openings.

I currently work in London as a Java Developer. No J2EE, just plain java server side development. Now searching Java jobs in perth, I struggle to see how I will get a Java job as pure Java roles just don't exist. I am also starting to feel that me and IT Development are on a collision course for a divorce at some point soon.

In a past life I was a cabinet maker, who spent 5 years making custom kitchens and fitted furniture. I still keep my hand in and have a workshop of my own. Currently make contemporary furniture. An example of a couple of pieces are shown below





ideally, I would like to find a role that gives me flexibility. Tired of the same old Mon-Fri 9-5 routine (yawn), and wonder whether I would easily be able to find work. If I could work for myself that would be perfect or with someone else who has the same "Work to Live" ethos. I am also very practical having refurbished 2 houses on my own. Plumbing / Kitchens and bathrooms.

So if any IT devs or Joinery / Furniture maker windsurfers have any ideas I would love to hear them.

PS - Don't have much savings so will need to find work and can last about 2 months without.


Thanks


Justin


albentley
NSW, 297 posts
24 Sep 2014 11:29PM
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Not sure about pure server side java, but there are lots of dev roles in Perth, you may just have to expand your horizons slightly.

If you can already code JS, why give it up? It is a valuable skill and you should be able to learn some of the more in demand dev stuff easily.

Al

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
24 Sep 2014 10:30PM
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albentley said..
Not sure about pure server side java, but there are lots of dev roles in Perth, you may just have to expand your horizons slightly.

If you can already code JS, why give it up? It is a valuable skill and you should be able to learn some of the more in demand dev stuff easily.

Al



That is the problem. My skills are pure server side Java. Whilst I can read a book on web related technologies, that does not give me the industry experience that companies look for when recruiting. THey certainly don't here in the UK. I don't know whether it is different in Perth. I suspect that it is the same

curac
WA, 1157 posts
25 Sep 2014 10:08AM
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put your name down at a contracting company like chandler mcleoud for mining jobs.

azymuth
WA, 2156 posts
25 Sep 2014 11:29AM
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If you want to get back to renovating kitchens I reckon you'd find plenty of work in Fremantle/Perth, working for yourself.

You could start with my place

I like the cabinet.

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
25 Sep 2014 12:48PM
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curac said...
put your name down at a contracting company like chandler mcleoud for mining jobs.


Can you elaborate. Do you mean carpentry jobs or IT as I don't have engineering experience?

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
25 Sep 2014 12:50PM
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azymuth said...
If you want to get back to renovating kitchens I reckon you'd find plenty of work in Fremantle/Perth, working for yourself.

You could start with my place

I like the cabinet.




Thanks. Sounds positive. My first client in WA!

albentley
NSW, 297 posts
25 Sep 2014 5:34PM
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flanagaj said..

curac said...
put your name down at a contracting company like chandler mcleoud for mining jobs.



Can you elaborate. Do you mean carpentry jobs or IT as I don't have engineering experience?


This is a lot harder than you think now, far less mining jobs out there now. Can't hurt to try, but I can't see any transferable skills.

Why not just come here and do both? Then see which one is proving more in demand/ enjoyable and do that?


What kind of experience are these companies looking for vs what you have?
http://www.seek.com.au/job/27181381?utm_campaign=jobseekerau&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=jobseekerau

There also seem to be a lot of front end JS jobs - this is stuff is pretty easy to learn, you can learn on the job!


Maybe ask here?

www.meetup.com/perth-js/

Tozza
WA, 160 posts
25 Sep 2014 4:23PM
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Is that first piece made from Corian? Looks awesome.

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
25 Sep 2014 5:10PM
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Tozza said..
Is that first piece made from Corian? Looks awesome.


No. Just sprayed. Thanks

curac
WA, 1157 posts
26 Sep 2014 5:52PM
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curac said...
put your name down at a contracting company like chandler mcleoud for mining jobs.




Can you elaborate. Do you mean carpentry jobs or IT as I don't have engineering experience?



do up a resume with all your skills and say you are willing to do anything. you might get a chippy job on site or handy man, or IT but you might not, you might also get a field job, rehabing drill holes, picking up samples, driving a forklift, driving a dump truck, carrying tools for some fat bastard, cleaning desks. who knows, it's good money and you get half your year off.

Sure people say it's hard but put your name in and be nice, and keep calling and asking if they have anything and you will probably get something, we are always being sent unskilled useless people. so given that you appear to be able to do something, you should be ok. annnd you got to be in it to win it.

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
27 Sep 2014 5:15AM
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flanagaj said..



curac said...
put your name down at a contracting company like chandler mcleoud for mining jobs.





Can you elaborate. Do you mean carpentry jobs or IT as I don't have engineering experience?




do up a resume with all your skills and say you are willing to do anything. you might get a chippy job on site or handy man, or IT but you might not, you might also get a field job, rehabing drill holes, picking up samples, driving a forklift, driving a dump truck, carrying tools for some fat bastard, cleaning desks. who knows, it's good money and you get half your year off.

Sure people say it's hard but put your name in and be nice, and keep calling and asking if they have anything and you will probably get something, we are always being sent unskilled useless people. so given that you appear to be able to do something, you should be ok. annnd you got to be in it to win it.


Fair point. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Dman
WA, 77 posts
27 Sep 2014 12:40PM
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flanagaj said..
Hi All,

Posted on here before, but the Wife and I are really now starting to grasp that our perm residency visa will expire April 2015 and as a result I am starting to look at possible job openings.

I currently work in London as a Java Developer. No J2EE, just plain java server side development. Now searching Java jobs in perth, I struggle to see how I will get a Java job as pure Java roles just don't exist. I am also starting to feel that me and IT Development are on a collision course for a divorce at some point soon.

In a past life I was a cabinet maker, who spent 5 years making custom kitchens and fitted furniture. I still keep my hand in and have a workshop of my own. Currently make contemporary furniture. An example of a couple of pieces are shown below





ideally, I would like to find a role that gives me flexibility. Tired of the same old Mon-Fri 9-5 routine (yawn), and wonder whether I would easily be able to find work. If I could work for myself that would be perfect or with someone else who has the same "Work to Live" ethos. I am also very practical having refurbished 2 houses on my own. Plumbing / Kitchens and bathrooms.

So if any IT devs or Joinery / Furniture maker windsurfers have any ideas I would love to hear them.

PS - Don't have much savings so will need to find work and can last about 2 months without.


Thanks


Justin




How long have you been out of the country for? i.e. is your visa still ok? If you are a PR you have unlimited work rights so just get on a plane and take the plunge.

You may have to do something that isn't ideal for a bit but you'll find something.

Not sure Chandler are a specialist IT recruitment company but most of the majors will cover this area, Hays, Randstad etc etc

My opinion, don't even bother applying for a job if you don't register with a WA address....put a mates on your resume or something and then say you are currently visiting UK.....

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
28 Sep 2014 11:11AM
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Been watching this thread for while.... and wasn't sure if your PR for the UK or Australia was the one about to expire.

Have you spent two of the last five years in Australia?

http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/155-157.aspx

If so you should be able to get a Resident Return Visa when yours expires.

If not.... well, go count the days that you've been in Australia, because there may be no point in coming back as your visa will expire in April and you won't be able to get a new one and will have to leave anyway.

Good luck.

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
28 Sep 2014 3:50PM
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FlickySpinny said..
Been watching this thread for while.... and wasn't sure if your PR for the UK or Australia was the one about to expire.

Have you spent two of the last five years in Australia?

http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/155-157.aspx

If so you should be able to get a Resident Return Visa when yours expires.

If not.... well, go count the days that you've been in Australia, because there may be no point in coming back as your visa will expire in April and you won't be able to get a new one and will have to leave anyway.

Good luck.


Visa is a permanent residency one, which expires April 2015. Although the visa expires in April 2015 it means as long as I am in Aus when the visa expires then I am able to stay indefinitely. I of course would need to get a RR visa if I then decided I wanted to leave Aus to come back to the UK


king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
29 Sep 2014 4:01PM
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Sounds to me your another really good mixed up POMMIE want to be AUSSIE but your time is up....................on your bike

Your country needs you more than we need you

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
30 Sep 2014 4:44AM
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king of the point said..
Sounds to me your another really good mixed up POMMIE


That would be a fair assessment

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
30 Sep 2014 6:00AM
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Have you thought about looking for work outside of WA? Sydney or Melbourne would be more likely to have software development roles, as most of the country's companies have their headquarters in Sydney, Melbourne, and sometimes Brisbane. Perth tends to have more mining companies based there, but they seem to outsource their IT to other companies or other countries.

I don't think Sydney and Melbourne can offer the same windsurfing lifestyle that Perth would, but it might give you the opportunity to get some jobs here and then keep a lookout for Perth based jobs. The sailing in Sydney in summer is not too bad. Not as good as Perth, but still reasonable.

Having said all this, I think the IT market here is very tight at the moment. I think outsourcing has reduced the number of roles already. Perth itself seems a little bit harder again as its a smaller market, with much less opportunities for IT jobs.

At the risk of upsetting the WA residents, Perth appears to run two different economies where they pay really well for some mining jobs, and not so well for non-mining jobs. In Sydney they seem to be more evenly spread as the population is higher, and everyone needs to be able to afford to live.

On another note, I have heard both stories where people move here and love it, and others that move here and hate it. Sometimes the lure of being close to family means that people want to move back. Others seem to like it here, but look at the cost of housing and figure they were better of financially where they came from.

Good luck.

gavnwend
WA, 1372 posts
2 Oct 2014 7:08PM
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mate head to the top end Darwin if you can hack the climate .jobs galore l have just come back having just been working on a new commissioned mine for reo tinto they are head hunting anyone who want to work.

stehsegler
WA, 3549 posts
3 Oct 2014 12:23AM
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... but look at the cost of housing and figure they were better of financially where they came from.


Let's face it the cost of living in Australia is a total joke. Ask anyone from London or New York that comes visiting and they all say the same: "How much do people earn here?" Once you tell them they all question what's the point. The only people on the planet that think Australia has cheap houses are the Chinese and Singaporeans mainly because they buy houses on the back of ultra low interest rates and in the case of Singapore a super low income tax.

You really only move to Australia for the beach live style and that's pretty much it. WA has plenty of that on offer and in my opinion also has the worlds best windsurf spots.

curac
WA, 1157 posts
3 Oct 2014 8:41AM
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stehsegler said..

FormulaNova said..
... but look at the cost of housing and figure they were better of financially where they came from.



Let's face it the cost of living in Australia is a total joke. Ask anyone from London or New York that comes visiting and they all say the same: "How much do people earn here?" Once you tell them they all question what's the point. The only people on the planet that think Australia has cheap houses are the Chinese and Singaporeans mainly because they buy houses on the back of ultra low interest rates and in the case of Singapore a super low income tax.

You really only move to Australia for the beach live style and that's pretty much it. WA has plenty of that on offer and in my opinion also has the worlds best windsurf spots.



yeah if i had the option i'd move to Germany.

flanagaj
WA, 177 posts
4 Oct 2014 1:30AM
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curac said..

stehsegler said..


FormulaNova said..
... but look at the cost of housing and figure they were better of financially where they came from.




Let's face it the cost of living in Australia is a total joke. Ask anyone from London or New York that comes visiting and they all say the same: "How much do people earn here?" Once you tell them they all question what's the point. The only people on the planet that think Australia has cheap houses are the Chinese and Singaporeans mainly because they buy houses on the back of ultra low interest rates and in the case of Singapore a super low income tax.

You really only move to Australia for the beach live style and that's pretty much it. WA has plenty of that on offer and in my opinion also has the worlds best windsurf spots.




yeah if i had the option i'd move to Germany.


Why Germany. It's bloody freezing for 6 months of the year. That's one of my motivating drivers for leaving the UK. Winter temps < 10c and sometimes down to 2 or 3c during the day. Brrrrrghhh



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