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New 85ish litre waveboard

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Created by Alimac23 > 9 months ago, 10 Feb 2011
Alimac23
WA, 144 posts
10 Feb 2011 9:49AM
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Hi Guys,

Im trying to decide between a Fanatic Quad and a Quatro LS, does anyone have any recommendations / have actually tested these boards?

The models im looking at are around the 85/86l mark and i'm just interested to see if anyone had any good or bad points to mention about either board.

qwerty
NSW, 807 posts
10 Feb 2011 1:57PM
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You couldn't go wrong with either one.
Both seem to rate the highest in all the reviews compared to any other board.

I have the 79 Fanatic Quad. It's awesome.

Alimac23
WA, 144 posts
10 Feb 2011 11:59AM
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Thanks Qwerty it's good to know that the fanatic is a good board.

Just wondering though how well the quads do out of the waves? Most of the time i'll sail at Quinns or Pinnaroo and would use this as my high wind board for those locations, do they go OK in chop / swell too?

qwerty
NSW, 807 posts
10 Feb 2011 6:32PM
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Can't comment on those locations as I'm over in NSW and only sail in waves.

However, it handles chop/swell very well, and especially for its size.
I'm 75kgs. I had it out in 35-40 knots last weekend. Plenty of blasting across the swell out the back.
Usually I'd be on a 68/70L board in that wind (and I still have those boards), but wanted to see how the Quad went in those conditions.
Sat in the water nicely. Very controllable.

The only difference to a single is that its slightly slower to get planing (but stays on the plane just fine).
No doubt due to the bit of extra weight from having 4 fin boxes.
But it's only a slight difference and really doesn't worry me. When there's decent wind, it doesn't matter anyway.








Mark _australia
WA, 23477 posts
10 Feb 2011 10:01PM
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Disclaimer - I've not sailed either, but

Every Quatro pure waveboard I've seen or used has a bit more rocker than most, making them an awesome DTL wave board (ie Gnaraloo) but a bit slower to plane. That also makes them less directionally stable .... "hunt" a bit more through the chop. I know Quatro claim early planing, but don't they all

Also, both are waveboards and will not handle short sharp chop like Pinnaroo anywhere near as well as a freestylewave that has some vee in it.

Will u use them for waveriding or 99% Pinnas / Quinns? If the latter, seriously go a FSW... or at least ride a FSW and those boards side by side on the same day and then decide.

Alimac23
WA, 144 posts
11 Feb 2011 9:28AM
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Hi Mark thanks for the input.

Realistically i will use the board about 85% at Pinnas / Quinns but i;ve already got a 102L Freestyle Wave board and was looking for something smaller that could also handle the waves fairly well.

Do you reckon get a smaller freestyle wave instead of the quad?

Eazy
WA, 61 posts
11 Feb 2011 10:14AM
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I'm sailing the 75L quatro @ Cott quite a lot and it's not bad.
It goes on the plane quite early and has good upwind capabilities.

Although a FSW would be better for Cott, but I rather have a board that works great in waves and does OK on flat/water chop than the other way around.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Fanatic Quad is more shaped like the Quatro KT, designed for high wind radical wave riding?
Where the Quatro LS is more a "world wave" board.

qwerty
NSW, 807 posts
11 Feb 2011 3:06PM
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Eazy said...


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Fanatic Quad is more shaped like the Quatro KT, designed for high wind radical wave riding?
Where the Quatro LS is more a "world wave" board.


Correct. Fanatic did design this board to be focussed on wave riding more than anything else.
I'm not sure about the specific differences of the Quatro LS though.

Mark _australia
WA, 23477 posts
11 Feb 2011 6:54PM
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Alimac23 said...

Hi Mark thanks for the input.

Realistically i will use the board about 85% at Pinnas / Quinns but i;ve already got a 102L Freestyle Wave board and was looking for something smaller that could also handle the waves fairly well.

Do you reckon get a smaller freestyle wave instead of the quad?


In that case I would feel comfortable getting the Quatro as it is a real world wave kinda deal....... and if you do Lano (now I looked at your profile ) you'll want to go frontside riding which FSW's are sh!t at

gazza
WA, 647 posts
11 Feb 2011 7:07PM
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Mark _australia said...

Disclaimer - I've not sailed either, but

Every Quatro pure waveboard I've seen or used has a bit more rocker than most, making them an awesome DTL wave board (ie Gnaraloo) but a bit slower to plane. That also makes them less directionally stable .... "hunt" a bit more through the chop. I know Quatro claim early planing, but don't they all




Mark that used to be true but as with most things shapers tend to shape more of what the general public want as is what Keith has done.

I sail the tempo which pretty much has the same rocker line as the LS quad(Rider put his templates on them both)and these board certainly are not high rocker boards pretty flat in comparison to some boards.
They get on the plan very quickly and stay on it to
i also have a custom quatro twinn fin thats has more rocket than you would believe its like a banana perfect for gnaraloo

Having tried the 75lt LS and the 86lt LS the 86 was heaps more fun it has a different bottom shape to the 75 some how it felt heaps more lively.
Im only 72kgs and had no problems turning the 86 at scarbs.
It gets on the plan quickly and fly's up wind as all quads are designed to do.
Its not the down the line model yet Livi seem to do ok on it

I haven't tried the fanatic so wont comment on them

Do you intend to start sailing away from pinnas more eg Lano,Scarbs or cott?
as i reckon the quatro will be perfect in these condition esp Lano
Try the tempo twin fin i use the 76 and love it in all conditions.i changed the fins from the stock ones and it made it looser and the up wind ability now blows me away



Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
11 Feb 2011 11:16PM
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Ali, how much do you weigh right no??

sinker
WA, 255 posts
12 Feb 2011 11:56AM
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I tried a mates 85L JP Thruster the other day and reckon it could be what you're after.

It's got heaps of vee compared to a traditional wave board (Like my 85 Naish which is much flatter across the tail) This plus the thruster set-up gives it a grippy and planted feel. Its great for jumping and really glides through chop.

Can't comment on its wave performance but I'd assume being a JP it will be good.

If you're after a multi fin waveboard which is fun to blast I'd give one of these a test.

Have fun deciding

Alimac23
WA, 144 posts
12 Feb 2011 7:19PM
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Thanks for all the advice guys, Ill definitely give the JP thruster a shot it sounds just like what I'm after!

Bertie at the moment I'm around 95kg mark, what would you suggest as a good 85l board?

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
12 Feb 2011 11:50PM
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If your 95Kg, i wouldnt go smaller than 90L yet.
The 93L JP thruster would be sweet. or 92L jp quad.
Other boards i know well are the JP real world wave 92 or Tabou pocket 93.

If you go too small you might loose too much speed on the wave and find it harder going than it should be to really progress well in the waves.
The difference in turning with any of the mentioned boards will amaze you compared to the FSW, but you needent go crazy small board size to get amazing performance.

Some companys do make big boards that suit big guys really well.
On an 85 if the wind drops out during a late session you might find yourself swimming home, no chance of that on a 93L.

R1DER
WA, 1471 posts
12 Feb 2011 10:11PM
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Bertie said...

If your 95Kg, i wouldnt go smaller than 90L yet.



I agree, good advice.

Spocktek
WA, 281 posts
13 Feb 2011 1:59PM
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G'day, if you intend to blast around pinnas mostly I would go for a singlefin over a multifin setup anyday.

Multis, especially quads are too slow and if you do manage to wind them up you'll find them really skittish and slappy in the chop.

Being generally wider than singles, multifins are a sinch to jybe though, and you'll plane out of more gybes as they won't stall as easy given thier wider tail.

I ride a 92 JP quad and took it to the river for a fang on a easterly last week, and I would have had more fun on a singlefin like a FSW shape.

Dont get me wrong, the quads are unreal and I would fin it hard to go back to a single for wavesailing, but for fangen around singles ar the go I rekon.

CJW
NSW, 1729 posts
13 Feb 2011 10:16PM
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Spocktek said...

G'day, if you intend to blast around pinnas mostly I would go for a singlefin over a multifin setup anyday.

Multis, especially quads are too slow and if you do manage to wind them up you'll find them really skittish and slappy in the chop.

Being generally wider than singles, multifins are a sinch to jybe though, and you'll plane out of more gybes as they won't stall as easy given thier wider tail.

I ride a 92 JP quad and took it to the river for a fang on a easterly last week, and I would have had more fun on a singlefin like a FSW shape.

Dont get me wrong, the quads are unreal and I would fin it hard to go back to a single for wavesailing, but for fangen around singles ar the go I rekon.



+1 above. I own an 86L Fanatic quad and for waves it absolutely shreds, however for a flatwater bump and jump board it's pretty **** imo. Personally I don't think it planes that much later than a similar volume single fin wave board but it is definitely slower than a single, it feels quite 'draggy' . Sure, it rides through the chop pretty well (massive double concaves etc) but I reckon unless you are doing pure wave riding get a board that you can run a single fin it, IE JP thruster or *board quad convertible or a single fin FSW of some description etc.

Alimac23
WA, 144 posts
14 Feb 2011 2:12PM
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Thanks again guys for all the input, i think i might just get a smaller FSW board for the higher winds around 85l and then get a bigger wave board for pure wave sailing.

Has anyone had any experience with the Goya One FSW series, there's an 85lt version from 2009 in good condition for sale, are these boards any good?

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
14 Feb 2011 9:02PM
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Dude you dont need 3 boards. you just need a 92L wave board, and based on what we know now a thruster would probably be the go so you can use it as a bump and jump singlefin.

Mark _australia
WA, 23477 posts
14 Feb 2011 6:07PM
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Bertie said...

Dude you dont need 3 boards. you just need a 92L wave board, and based on what we know now a thruster would probably be the go so you can use it as a bump and jump singlefin.


Yes he does if he is going to do average wind BAF'ing at Pinnas, plus high wind B&J'ing at Pinnas, plus Lano wavesailing.......

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
14 Feb 2011 9:45PM
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Mark _australia said...



Yes he does if he is going to do average wind BAF'ing at Pinnas, plus high wind B&J'ing at Pinnas, plus Lano wavesailing.......


You mean I need more than one board to do all that?

Hmm that's all the excuse I need

Mark _australia
WA, 23477 posts
14 Feb 2011 10:37PM
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Trying to give the poor bugger some ammo with the significant other

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
15 Feb 2011 2:03AM
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oops i didnt make it clear what i was thinking there.
Ali needs a 92 to go with his 102 FSW.

He doesnt need 3 boards, just 2.
1 board just aint going to cut it for what he wants to do.

DL
WA, 659 posts
15 Feb 2011 9:01AM
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Alimac23 said...

Thanks again guys for all the input, i think i might just get a smaller FSW board for the higher winds around 85l and then get a bigger wave board for pure wave sailing.


That sounds all back-to-front. Shouldn't your small board be the wave board and the larger be the FSW?

102 FSW + 90L thruster.
- Pinnas moderate wind - 102L
- Pinnas nuking - 90L as a single fin (with a bigger fin).
- Wavesailing light wind - 102L
- Wavesailing in all other conditions - 90L

Seems logical to me.... Means you have a decent wave board for when the waves are good. (which is all that matters, right? )

Mark _australia
WA, 23477 posts
15 Feb 2011 5:56PM
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Disagree, DL.

When he said smaller FSW I think he meant smaller than his existing FSW, not that his smallest baord would be a FSW.

Buuut:For nukin' B&J a FSW will be way better. Now bearing in mind most ppl won't wavesail as such when it is seriously mega windy:

For good wind but not nukin' and at Lano a waveboard is in order but not as small as the FSW for hi wind.

Assuming he is 90kg as somebody said (?) a good quiver could be

102L FSW
90L waveboard
80L FSW for very hi wind B&J

A 90L waveboard is not for "nukin' " conditions if you are 90kg
nukin B&J means a good 10L under your bodyweight, smaller fin than standard (perhaps) and something that tracks well (which means not a waveboard)

IMHO

So maybe a decision needs to be made - is it for Lano on good days, or blown out 30kn plus at Pinnas....... or have 3 boards

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
15 Feb 2011 9:33PM
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^^^^^The punctuation in that rant is shocking.
Please use spell check or proof read before posting.
You are teaching the younger generation bad habits.M8

Mark _australia
WA, 23477 posts
15 Feb 2011 6:51PM
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Yawn

DL
WA, 659 posts
15 Feb 2011 7:04PM
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looks like you have a groupie.

Alimac23
WA, 144 posts
16 Feb 2011 8:39AM
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Hi Guys,

I would probably go a 85l FSW for when it gets windy for use at Pinnas / B&J conditions and then a 90 odd litre wave board for the waves obviously, going on the advice not to go smaller than 90l if i weigh 95kg for the wave board this would seem to make sense.



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