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Looking for quad advice

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Created by Belly7 > 9 months ago, 10 Nov 2013
Belly7
WA, 30 posts
10 Nov 2013 10:14PM
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I am looking at getting a second hand quad from around 2011/12 and wanting some advice on what size and brand I should get. I am about 77kg and an intermediate-advanced wave sailor mainly Dutchies, Scarbs and occasionally Lancelin. I have an 80l Starboard evil twin at the moment and find it is just too bouncy once powered up on a 5.2 and smaller especially in the bottom turn(too wide?). Was thinking about 75l in a quad maybe Starboard or Quatro?
Cheers

Troppo
WA, 887 posts
10 Nov 2013 10:50PM
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This one will do the trick for you perfectly. I'm too fat for it nowwww.seabreeze.com.au/Members/Classifieds/MyAdvert.aspx?id=a7xgy

Belly7
WA, 30 posts
11 Nov 2013 9:54PM
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How wide is it? and tail width? I think it will be a bit small at 72?? I'm not a huge fan of sinking in the lulls

Troppo
WA, 887 posts
11 Nov 2013 11:25PM
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55 in the middle 39 under the rear straps.

if you already have an 80 this will be a good size for the stronger winds.

take it for a spin if you like.

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
12 Nov 2013 11:05PM
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I know this is a Quad thread, but I thought I'd throw this into the mix... I had an 80 litre Evil Twin and HATED it...

It was epic once on the wave in classic awesome conditions but everywhere else it was uncomfortable, slow, bouncy and got me into a world of trouble.

I've since upgraded to a Starboard Nuevo, and it is amazing. Stacks of double-concave to absorb the chop, lots of speed back up the wave in more onshore conditions, and quick as well. I really thought it was a risk going to another twin, but it's easily the best board I've ever owned. Lano a couple of weeks ago was one of the best sessions of my life. Very very easy to sail. If you get the opportunity and you're in this market I'd recommend trying one.

Belly7
WA, 30 posts
13 Nov 2013 12:21PM
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Cheers Troppo I might take you up on that offer once I have sold my other board so I can afford a new one

robbo1111
NSW, 648 posts
15 Nov 2013 2:02PM
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FlickySpinny said..
I know this is a Quad thread, but I thought I'd throw this into the mix... I had an 80 litre Evil Twin and HATED it...



Got to agree, for mine its the worst board Starboard ever made, an absolute woofer

Mark _australia
WA, 23472 posts
15 Nov 2013 11:43AM
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So anyone want to buy an 80L Evil Twin in really good nick?

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
15 Nov 2013 5:12PM
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I heard it was the stock fins that made the evil twin suck, but I wouldn't know, never ridden one.

Belly7
WA, 30 posts
15 Nov 2013 3:11PM
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I agree the stock fins are terrible but with others the board is great just too big for me unfortunately

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
16 Nov 2013 3:21PM
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Bertie said..

I heard it was the stock fins that made the evil twin suck, but I wouldn't know, never ridden one.


Stockers were nasty. I had chocos in mine and it didn't improve it much. A mate had Flying Objects fins in it and said it made an improvement, but not by a lot.

bowsa
QLD, 622 posts
3 Dec 2013 8:23PM
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FlickySpinny said..

I know this is a Quad thread, but I thought I'd throw this into the mix... I had an 80 litre Evil Twin and HATED it...

It was epic once on the wave in classic awesome conditions but everywhere else it was uncomfortable, slow, bouncy and got me into a world of trouble.

I've since upgraded to a Starboard Nuevo, and it is amazing. Stacks of double-concave to absorb the chop, lots of speed back up the wave in more onshore conditions, and quick as well. I really thought it was a risk going to another twin, but it's easily the best board I've ever owned. Lano a couple of weeks ago was one of the best sessions of my life. Very very easy to sail. If you get the opportunity and you're in this market I'd recommend trying one.



interestingly i had the evil twin 87 and LOVED it. wished i'd never sold it, but was moving back from europe and didn't have the space

NordRoi
669 posts
4 Dec 2013 2:27AM
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A lot of Quad to pick from.

However, in those years..I don't know in 2014....but starboard has a reputation of riding bigger than the volume indicated...so if you pick a Starboard Quad 82L vs 77. I tried the 87L on a light wind day, 2012...and it was quite floaty!!!

So if you like starboard, maybe something to had in the equation..and of course, if you under fin you board..that could compensate at a certain point...with the drawback smaller fin will bring also.

Muppet
WA, 107 posts
6 Dec 2013 7:42PM
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I'm 77kg and I have a 2011 74l starboard quad which I love. Works on a 5.3 down to a 3.7 but is a dream on a 4.5 in 25 knots. If I was to upgrade I'd look at a 77l just so I could jump on it a bit sooner from my 83l single fin, especially if I lived in Perth.

Wiindz
28 posts
17 Jan 2014 12:42PM
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@ Muppet

Im looking at the quad 74l 2011, how well does yours do marginal 5.3 and powered up 3.7? are those two combinations really a stretch or the board feels good?
cheers!

Muppet
WA, 107 posts
17 Jan 2014 4:42PM
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@ Muppet

Im looking at the quad 74l 2011, how well does yours do marginal 5.3 and powered up 3.7? are those two combinations really a stretch or the board feels good?

cheers!


Yeah still comfortable on both. I find quads don't lift as much when maxed out so still pretty managable in 30+ knots. Once tried it with a 5.8 but that was a bit much. Ride it happily with on 5.3 without spin out issues.

Wiindz
28 posts
18 Jan 2014 12:20AM
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awesome! wood or wood carbon?

Muppet
WA, 107 posts
18 Jan 2014 7:43AM
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Wiindz said..
awesome! wood or wood carbon?


I've ridden the carbons but I prefer the wood. The carbons may plane a little earlier but once the wind picks up their stiffness gives a harder ride and they seem to bounce around a bit more through the chop. Also the woods take more of a beating. I've given mine some serious flat landings and sailed away ok.
Pretty sure 2011/2012 are the same shape. 13/14 have a different shape with a square tail which I haven't ridden but I do know the 11 was a big advance on the 10 when the larger fins could be moved to the back which has been the norm ever since for most quads.

Zed
WA, 1273 posts
18 Jan 2014 8:28AM
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Belly7 said..

I am looking at getting a second hand quad from around 2011/12 and wanting some advice on what size and brand I should get. I am about 77kg and an intermediate-advanced wave sailor mainly Dutchies, Scarbs and occasionally Lancelin. I have an 80l Starboard evil twin at the moment and find it is just too bouncy once powered up on a 5.2 and smaller especially in the bottom turn(too wide?). Was thinking about 75l in a quad maybe Starboard or Quatro?
Cheers





You can ride a bigger volume board with a Quad. I'm 78kg and was sailing a 70l & 80l Evos and went to s 92l RRD Quad this year, Mark got one as well (104l?) and we both really rate them. I traded the 80 Evo with the 92L Quad with the intention of picking up a smaller quad at some point, assuming the 92l would just be too big when the wind & swell picked up, well it's the only board I've used this year, haven't needed to use my 70l. It sails like a much smaller board and where my 80l Evo would start bouncing around when it got really windy, the RRD is much more controllable. I've had it out in 25kts with no issues.I'll probably get a smaller quad at some point, but at the moment there's no desperate rush. It's really beneficial having that extra volume when the conditions are marginal.

Mark _australia
WA, 23472 posts
18 Jan 2014 11:29AM
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^^ yep agreed. Mine is 100L.
On single fins I used to sail about 90-100L and when it picked up I'd go down 10L
Now I don't bother, I sail the 100L even in the strongest of seabreezes and it still rides awesome (even on really choppy bottom turns)
2012 RRD quad - unfknbelievable.

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
18 Jan 2014 2:48PM
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I've varied from 74-78kg this season and just have an 82L quad. I use it in everything.

Zed
WA, 1273 posts
18 Jan 2014 12:59PM
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I'd suggest trying out a bigger quad before going out and buying a 74l quad especially if your main spots are lano, dutchies and scarbs. Spots where having a bit of extra floatation will come in handy.

Wiindz
28 posts
19 Jan 2014 9:10AM
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Thanks Muppet, I think the 74l wood will be my ticket as well! ever tried your board with a smaller sail than a 3.7?


Muppet
WA, 107 posts
19 Jan 2014 10:28AM
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Thanks Muppet, I think the 74l wood will be my ticket as well! ever tried your board with a smaller sail than a 3.7?


No worries, unsure what size/weight you are (the fact you are asking me if I have used smaller than a 3.7 suggests that you are no giant) but as I and these other gents have said, you can generally go a bit big bigger than the norm with quads. The only time I have used smaller than a 3.7 was in Pozo and that was pure survival sailing for me! Exciting but not exactly comfortable.

Wiindz
28 posts
19 Jan 2014 11:26AM
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thats a good point, im 68-70kgs and i do have a 3.3 in my quiver, it does not come out often at all and its always survival at that point but would be nice to have the option I guess, I wouldn'y mind having the extra couple of liters for float and ride days though mind you, hmm, decisions decisions!



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