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It appears we have upset the fishermen of Perth

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Created by BundyBear > 9 months ago, 15 Feb 2014
BundyBear
NSW, 325 posts
15 Feb 2014 7:52PM
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Found this in the fishing report

http://blogs.abc.net.au/wa/2014/02/fishing-report-with-john-curtis-saturday-february-15-2014.html?site=perth&program=720_saturdaybreakfast

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GENERAL FISHING
With some larger swells and strong easterly breezes this last week, it hasn?t been too good for boat anglers. It has also made beach fishing a little difficult as it tends to flatten out any inshore wave action and prevents the build up of white water associated with sea breezes. As a result it becomes a little more difficult to find tailor, but they are there and if anglers persist they will score.

One of the problems encountered along the central metropolitan beaches has been the number of wind surfers running along the inshore breaks at very high speed. At the speeds they are travelling they cannot see anglers? fishing lines and there is going to be a nasty accident in the near future. Should there be a swimmer in the water the wind surfer will not have time to take evasive action and someone, wind surfer or swimmer will be seriously injured or killed.

Anglers more often than not use a braided line which will cut flesh to the bone in seconds flat and will cut through wet suit materials similarly. Common sense has to prevail and if wind surfers moved off shore a couple of hundred metres, anglers and swimmers can co-exist on the beaches and inshore waters.

Local government isn?t interested in looking at the problem as they don?t want to get involved.



Given it's an ABC tale the author probably has his facts wrong and it was either a kiter or jet ski that got in his way

Man0verBoard
WA, 629 posts
15 Feb 2014 9:02PM
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You are probably right..though his flesh and bone filleting device s equally effective on the swimmers, surely..

I have nothing against kiters generally as they are good board repair customers of mine. But the emotional response I have windsurfing near kiters is similar to that which I had surfing City and Floreat groynes as a grom with keen fishermen who were casting off the groynes. As groms we respected them as they were our elders but there were a few that casted right over us and that caused some agro..

Windsurfers have paid their dues generally so no need to work up a fuss about the fishermen..they are not in our way...they/we are all constantly vigilant of safety in the water

Man0verBoard
WA, 629 posts
15 Feb 2014 9:05PM
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ps - sorry am I trying to be a mellow old fart??!

Mark _australia
WA, 23474 posts
15 Feb 2014 10:21PM
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Surely talking about kiters doing downwinders.

Subsonic
WA, 3357 posts
15 Feb 2014 11:11PM
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Mark _australia said...
Surely talking about kiters doing downwinders.




Surely kiters if they're talking about beach fishing, there are a few spots where there's interaction between windsurfers and anglers, like the groin at woodies.

Heavily biased news reporters trying to get another minority group moved along in favour of their own.

Who woulda guessed.

curac
WA, 1157 posts
16 Feb 2014 7:27AM
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kites or poles, either way the author seems a bit special

hardpole
WA, 608 posts
16 Feb 2014 10:14AM
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I think it would be kiters on downwinders, no fear of strings already

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Hooked-Literally-and-figuratively/

Plainview
WA, 179 posts
16 Feb 2014 10:24AM
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I wonder if that article will draw the attention of any surf lifesaving clubs? With that lovely description of what braided line can do (anyone notice a sinister undertone?) the author has more chance of getting anglers banned from within 200m of the beach than windsurfers/kiters.

twitchie
WA, 18 posts
16 Feb 2014 11:07AM
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A few weeks ago at pinnaroo point, a fisherman and his kids set up for an afternoon of fishing right where a group of obviously new kiters were practicing and subsequently dropping their kites. The guy just sets up shop, and stares at the kite guys, surely common sense would tell the fisherman and his kids to move a hundred meters down the beach? I just hope he was not one of those complaining!

BundyBear
NSW, 325 posts
16 Feb 2014 3:51PM
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I have recently returned to fishing having not touched it since I was a young teenager.

I am amazed at the number of disrespectful idiots that fish. I have seen people who take undersized fish, exceed bag limits drop their litter all over the spots where they fish and the list goes on.

What ever happened to just grabbing a fish or two for a feed then releasing any others.

Fishos are their own worst enemy and it is probably just the strength of the "I fish and I vote" lobby that is stopping them getting banned from fishing certain places at certain times.

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
16 Feb 2014 1:29PM
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Respect to the fisherman try to fish in a 20 knot side / side off / side onshore seabreeze and a 5 knot current on any beach , rear both are doing the same activity ,if encountered a wide beth is given

Most fishos (serious ones) will not set up if other beach activities are taking place and vis versa

jsnfok
WA, 899 posts
16 Feb 2014 1:37PM
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Common sense has to prevail and if wind surfers moved off shore a couple of hundred metres....

how far can you cast, 30m is a good cast, and thats with a 13 footer rod, but a lot of knobs fish anyway cause they cant afford to windsurf

Maddog49
WA, 102 posts
16 Feb 2014 7:01PM
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I am a regular fisherman and Windsurfer and find this article rubbish.
Most fisherman fish sunrise and sunset. The early mornings are not windy so you never encounter windsurfers or kiters and usually if I am fishing in the evening I am setting up when the windsurfers are packing up.
This sound like a once a year occurance and been blown out of proportion by the media.

gavnwend
WA, 1372 posts
17 Feb 2014 6:22PM
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Who dont we upset it appears every man & Dog.

BundyBear
NSW, 325 posts
22 Feb 2014 12:46PM
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As it turns out it wasn't us causing the trouble

http://blogs.abc.net.au/wa/2014/02/fishing-report-with-john-curtis-saturday-february-22-2014.html?site=perth&program=720_saturdaybreakfast


In a recent report I wrote "One of the problems encountered along the central metropolitan beaches has been the number of wind surfers running along the inshore breaks at very high speed. At the speeds they are travelling they cannot see anglers? fishing lines and there is going to be a nasty accident in the near future. Should there be a swimmer in the water the wind surfer will not have time to take evasive action and someone, wind surfer or swimmer will be seriously injured or killed.

Anglers more often than not use a braided line which will cut flesh to the bone in seconds flat and will cut through wet suit materials similarly. Common sense has to prevail and if wind surfers moved off shore a couple of hundred metres, anglers and swimmers can co-exist on the beaches and inshore waters. Local government isn?t interested in looking at the problem as they don?t want to get involved".

I received the following reply from a wind surfer who said ?I would bet my bottom dollar he is actually referring to KITEsurfers not WINDsurfers?. The former do downwind runs in the wave breaks whereas windsurfers are much less likely to be doing anything like that. There is a big difference?. I truly hope he has not complained to local government about windsurfers in error - as windsurfers are sick of being tarred with the same brush as kiters who are causing problems of all sorts.

I?m sorry that I caused any confusion and yes the reader is right it is KITESURFERS who are causing the problems.


Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
22 Feb 2014 10:25AM
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BundyBear said..

As it turns out it wasn't us causing the trouble

http://blogs.abc.net.au/wa/2014/02/fishing-report-with-john-curtis-saturday-february-22-2014.html?site=perth&program=720_saturdaybreakfast


In a recent report I wrote "One of the problems encountered along the central metropolitan beaches has been the number of wind surfers running along the inshore breaks at very high speed. At the speeds they are travelling they cannot see anglers? fishing lines and there is going to be a nasty accident in the near future. Should there be a swimmer in the water the wind surfer will not have time to take evasive action and someone, wind surfer or swimmer will be seriously injured or killed.

Anglers more often than not use a braided line which will cut flesh to the bone in seconds flat and will cut through wet suit materials similarly. Common sense has to prevail and if wind surfers moved off shore a couple of hundred metres, anglers and swimmers can co-exist on the beaches and inshore waters. Local government isn?t interested in looking at the problem as they don?t want to get involved".

I received the following reply from a wind surfer who said ?I would bet my bottom dollar he is actually referring to KITEsurfers not WINDsurfers?. The former do downwind runs in the wave breaks whereas windsurfers are much less likely to be doing anything like that. There is a big difference?. I truly hope he has not complained to local government about windsurfers in error - as windsurfers are sick of being tarred with the same brush as kiters who are causing problems of all sorts.

I?m sorry that I caused any confusion and yes the reader is right it is KITESURFERS who are causing the problems.




I think we all knew it would be kitesurfers who were causing the problems (not because we are biased against them but because they surf along in shallow shore breaks). Well done to the concerned windsurfer who actually made the effort to contact the journalist involved to clarify matters.

Zedbee
WA, 1 posts
30 Mar 2014 2:28PM
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I fish in the evenings from about 4:30pm and just wait until surfers go by. No big deal.

Only problem would be if I hooked into a mulloway and needed to fight it for 30mins.

So really we both have to work together and not assume the other person has the right of way.

PEACE



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