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wright of way on the wave, comin in headin out????

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Created by WINDY MILLER > 9 months ago, 4 Jun 2008
WINDY MILLER
WA, 3183 posts
4 Jun 2008 10:05PM
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Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
4 Jun 2008 10:31PM
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How pissed would that dolphin be with his mates dropping in on him?

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
4 Jun 2008 10:58PM
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Think those guys make their own right of way.

555
892 posts
5 Jun 2008 6:43AM
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That would be awesome.. I'd love to share a wave with those guys.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
5 Jun 2008 10:53AM
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this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
5 Jun 2008 10:22AM
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Gestalt said...

this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.



HTFU

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
5 Jun 2008 12:37PM
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grumplestiltskin said...

Gestalt said...

this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.



HTFU


is there a cream i can get for that. [}:)]

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
5 Jun 2008 10:45AM
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Gestalt said...

grumplestiltskin said...

Gestalt said...

this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.



HTFU


is there a cream i can get for that. [}:)]


Haven't found one yet, but there is a wristband

Zabongi
NSW, 40 posts
5 Jun 2008 12:54PM
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grumplestiltskin said...

Gestalt said...

grumplestiltskin said...

Gestalt said...

this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.



HTFU


is there a cream i can get for that. [}:)]


Haven't found one yet, but there is a wristband



Where do I get me one of those

Mark _australia
WA, 23447 posts
5 Jun 2008 11:07AM
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I duunnoooooo I heard the opposite: that dolphins ram sharks with their bony snout and can really hurt a shark with a good shot in the flank.... so about the only animal in the ocean that a shark will flee from is a dolphin. I'm sure that was a doco on TV years ago

who is right?

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
5 Jun 2008 1:37PM
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Mark _australia said...

I duunnoooooo I heard the opposite: that dolphins ram sharks with their bony snout and can really hurt a shark with a good shot in the flank.... so about the only animal in the ocean that a shark will flee from is a dolphin. I'm sure that was a doco on TV years ago

who is right?




that's kinda where me email came from, i showed a mate at work and he said same thing. i also thought that but a year ago i saw a doco on sharks and it changed my view because they filmed sharks and dolphins hunting together.

doesn't bother me really, i don't go in the water anymore, just post on seabreeze cause it's safer.

Mark _australia
WA, 23447 posts
5 Jun 2008 12:30PM
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Interesting when you first posted that, you have a bunch of thumbs down. Now you have thumbs up for the same POV.

There are some weird people here......

dralyagmas
SA, 380 posts
5 Jun 2008 3:43PM
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Gestalt said...

this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.



I am a marine biologist and I can say that that is a load of crap. No offence to the person who posted it.

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
5 Jun 2008 4:28PM
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dralyagmas said...

Gestalt said...

this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.



I am a marine biologist and I can say that that is a load of crap. No offence to the person who posted it.



So, if we see a bunch of dolphins like in the pic, is it safer than usual? About the same? Or, slightly more dangerous? As regards sharkie warkies, I mean.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
5 Jun 2008 5:36PM
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dralyagmas said...

Gestalt said...

this is what the shark research institute say...

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.



I am a marine biologist and I can say that that is a load of crap. No offence to the person who posted it.


no offence taken,


i'm not a marine biologist can only go on what i have read etc.

have you got any data to prove it's wrong?

i would love to know once and for all cause there seems lots of different outcomes on this one.

cheers.

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
5 Jun 2008 5:01PM
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Weeeeeeeell,

I have been surfing at one of our local spots a few years back and we had a pod of dolphins round up a school of salmon up against a groyn.

We all thought it was cool watching the dolphins riping around and under us ctaching the salmon, until we turned around to see a dirty great big noah go cruising past about 15m away. The break got cleaned out rather quickly.

After we got changed we sat on top of the rock wall watching both the sharks and dolphins hook into the fish, it was a good show.

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
5 Jun 2008 8:42PM
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Perhaps, while there's plenty of food, dolphins and sharks get on with their own business without worrying each other.
But if food is scarce, and there are young vulnerable dolphins around, and a biggish shark turns up, then the dolphins are either going to run or fight, and it may not be predetermined which way they go.

dralyagmas, can you enlighten us?

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
5 Jun 2008 9:54PM
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elmo said...

Weeeeeeeell,

I have been surfing at one of our local spots a few years back and we had a pod of dolphins round up a school of salmon up against a groyn.

We all thought it was cool watching the dolphins riping around and under us ctaching the salmon, until we turned around to see a dirty great big noah go cruising past about 15m away. The break got cleaned out rather quickly.

After we got changed we sat on top of the rock wall watching both the sharks and dolphins hook into the fish, it was a good show.

Was it your groyn Elmz?

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
5 Jun 2008 10:45PM
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Greenroom said...

elmo said...

Weeeeeeeell,

I have been surfing at one of our local spots a few years back and we had a pod of dolphins round up a school of salmon up against a groyn.

We all thought it was cool watching the dolphins riping around and under us ctaching the salmon, until we turned around to see a dirty great big noah go cruising past about 15m away. The break got cleaned out rather quickly.

After we got changed we sat on top of the rock wall watching both the sharks and dolphins hook into the fish, it was a good show.

Was it your groyn Elmz?




One of our locals groynes, I fordets whos it twas

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
6 Jun 2008 12:54AM
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Mark _australia said...

Interesting when you first posted that, you have a bunch of thumbs down. Now you have thumbs up for the same POV.

There are some weird people here......


don't worry, it's just my stalker again.

dralyagmas
SA, 380 posts
6 Jun 2008 10:39AM
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The Ichthyology Department of the Florida Musuem of Natural History's International Shark Attack File states that the prsence of dolphins does not exclude the possibly of the presence of sharks as they eat the same things.

However from my own perspective I have seen 1000's of dolphins and never seen a shark, and that is while surfing, windsurfing and sailing (not really looking) and diving and snorkling (looking).

It would depend on what the dolphins are doing. In the photo that Windy posted the dolphins are playing in the waves and not fishing so the likelihood of a shark bieng close would be the same (IMHO) as if the dolphins were not there. If, like elmo said, the dolphins are rounding up fish then there could be sharks. But the risk is the same as if the fish were there without the dolphins.

My opinion is that the presence of dolphins has no bearing whatsoever on the probability of sharks being present.

Personally I would not go surfing when there are schools of salmon in the water, whether there are dolphins there or not.

WindWarrior
NSW, 1019 posts
10 Jun 2008 8:45PM
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2 + 2 + 1 = 1 too many

Surfing at Birubi today (known NSW breeding ground for Great Whites)... super glassy 3 foot
Just 2 of us in the water when 2 dolphins cruised on by... followed by a 6 foot shark about 3 metres behind the dolphins.
Definitely a shark, tall dorsal fin (unlike a curved dolphins) and a trailing tail fin and a big toothy smile !
He was definitely tracking/following the dolphins and didn't even give us a cursory glance as he glided past about 5 metres away !

Kev

Leech
WA, 1933 posts
10 Jun 2008 7:34PM
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Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
10 Jun 2008 10:57PM
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Just dont bring the sharks back here Kev

WindWarrior
NSW, 1019 posts
11 Jun 2008 9:40AM
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Greenroom said...

Just dont bring the sharks back here Kev


Hey Greenie
We are currently in negotiations with CSIRO who did all that tracking work with 5 MASSIVE Great Whites a year or so ago (They tracked them using satellites traveling across the bite off towards South Africa and Tassie and back)

Looking to get a couple of Whities to head up north WA around October where they will be sticking relatively close to the coast... there's a little place up there a little way off the beaten track that's perfect for this type of operation !

Kev

patsken
WA, 713 posts
11 Jun 2008 10:37AM
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I dunno about dolphins and sharks...

but having helped out with a bit of salmon netting ( professional fishing ) around the Albany area I've found it is always a good idea to keep looking behind you when hauling a net full of salmon on to the beach ... salmon and sharks are quite often seen in the same area. The fact that the salmon are being netted may well be the main factor in causing the sharks to take an interest but I guess that may be the same if the salmon are getting herded by dolphins too...

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
11 Jun 2008 11:34AM
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WindWarrior said...

Greenroom said...

Just dont bring the sharks back here Kev


Hey Greenie
We are currently in negotiations with CSIRO who did all that tracking work with 5 MASSIVE Great Whites a year or so ago (They tracked them using satellites traveling across the bite off towards South Africa and Tassie and back)

Looking to get a couple of Whities to head up north WA around October where they will be sticking relatively close to the coast... there's a little place up there a little way off the beaten track that's perfect for this type of operation !

Kev

Can you train them to hunt down kiters?

Paul
WA, 346 posts
18 Jun 2008 3:04PM
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two weeks ago the fishers were pulling in salmon like there was no tomorrow - hardly needed to bait up the line - throw in and pull in another monster. It didn't even phase the 50 odd surfers in the lineup. They kept surfing as if the fish weren't there at all, but no sighting of grey suits either.

wormy
QLD, 679 posts
18 Jun 2008 5:46PM
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Mark _australia said...

I duunnoooooo I heard the opposite: that dolphins ram sharks with their bony snout and can really hurt a shark with a good shot in the flank.... so about the only animal in the ocean that a shark will flee from is a dolphin. I'm sure that was a doco on TV years ago

who is right?




Thats what "flipper" used to do, It must be true, it was on TV when I was a kid, everything on TV in those days was true,



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