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What happend to the event supercross?????

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Created by flipper4444 > 9 months ago, 29 Apr 2010
flipper4444
VIC, 1214 posts
29 Apr 2010 2:21AM
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I realy think that's where windsurfing went wrong, with trying to grow it's popularity, and bring new guys into the sport. Supercross was really taking off, I heard at the time, and looked great for the spectators, and you did not need a place that was super windy, with waves to hold a event.

I dont think this is any more dangerous than wave sailing, and how is this more dangerous, than a whole stack of guys on motor bikes, jumping around a dirt bike track?? How come motorcross get to do there sport?? and we cant do ours??

It would of been so cool to hold a event in port phillip bay..

curac
WA, 1157 posts
29 Apr 2010 11:08AM
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well i'm pretty sure it's not in the wave sailing section

windaddict
VIC, 1121 posts
29 Apr 2010 2:54PM
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Yeah its more like a freestyle event but you also have to race around a course while doing it.

See the guy do a forward right infront of the other sailor at 1:41 also nice spock over the jump at 2:40.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
29 Apr 2010 1:08PM
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Wow - Kauli beat Antoine in a race! Who would have thought?

As for what happened to Supercross - I don't know. Too hard?

da vecta
QLD, 2515 posts
30 Apr 2010 11:36AM
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I think Slalom came back and Freestyle began to stand on its own two feet so the combined form of the two (Supercross) wasn't necessary anymore.

However, some form of supercross, would still be the most fun event to do/watch in most locations I reckon.

Haircut
QLD, 6491 posts
30 Apr 2010 8:09PM
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i reckon supercross was the shiz. they finally created a windsurfing event that was fun to watch and could be done anywhere without needing cabo verde type waves to be interesting, and then they remove it

some extremely poor decisions have been made in the last few years

laff77
NSW, 273 posts
4 May 2010 5:05PM
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flipper4444 said...



It would of been so cool to hold a event in port phillip bay..




An event was held in Port Phillip Bay. If my memory serves me correctly it was held sometime around 04 or 05. RPS hosted it.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
4 May 2010 6:25PM
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Good to watch. What happened to super X? I'm not sure. Perhaps it didn't catch on because its a bit silly? Having to do a certain trick while racing doesn't really work for me. It would be like forcing a F1 car to do a doughnut every lap. Back in the day surf slalom was seen as one of the most spectacular forms of windsurfing competition. Nowdays slalom events seem to be held predominantly on flat or flatish water.

Events like the Sony International at Long Reef were interesting to see and read about. Racing in big waves and gybing around marks in the shorebreak. It would be sweet to watch a modern version of that, full on racing in wave conditions.

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
4 May 2010 4:48PM
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I think the average sailor had no chance, so it was something that made the sport too elite, great innovation initially but very little growth potential.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
4 May 2010 9:53PM
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hardie said...

I think the average sailor had no chance, so it was something that made the sport too elite, great innovation initially but very little growth potential.


2nd that hardie. to grow the sport grass roots is needed. superX is not grass roots stuff. the pros make it look easy.

there are loads of vids around of weekend warriors trying superX and it is dam hard.

most and including me, can't even jump the first sausage

mathew
QLD, 2133 posts
4 May 2010 9:57PM
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maybe its demise had to do with something like, say... needing wind...

Racing of any sort is hard work when winds are flukey - not everywhere is WA.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
4 May 2010 10:11PM
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mathew said...

maybe its demise had to do with something like, say... needing wind...

Racing of any sort is hard work when winds are flukey - not everywhere is WA.


you could be right there matthew,

i seem to remember one comp where the guys were looping and doing spocks on 7.5-8m sails.

not much joy there.

windaddict
VIC, 1121 posts
5 May 2010 9:30AM
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I think it would be better if they took out the free style element but just left the sausages to jump over, it would allow the average sailor who can do basic jumps to be able to compete.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
5 May 2010 9:35AM
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Mobydisc said...

Good to watch. What happened to super X? I'm not sure. Perhaps it didn't catch on because its a bit silly? Having to do a certain trick while racing doesn't really work for me. It would be like forcing a F1 car to do a doughnut every lap. Back in the day surf slalom was seen as one of the most spectacular forms of windsurfing competition. Nowdays slalom events seem to be held predominantly on flat or flatish water.

Events like the Sony International at Long Reef were interesting to see and read about. Racing in big waves and gybing around marks in the shorebreak. It would be sweet to watch a modern version of that, full on racing in wave conditions.




Surf Slalom - AWESOME!

We could have it at Scarborough Beach in Perth, with the added advantage that there are always heaps of people on the beach there who might watch, and be impressed (especially if our boards have tail cut-outs).

flipper4444
VIC, 1214 posts
5 May 2010 11:37AM
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windaddict said...

I think it would be better if they took out the free style element but just left the sausages to jump over, it would allow the average sailor who can do basic jumps to be able to compete.


Very smart man! i was thinking the same thing too dude!

curac
WA, 1157 posts
5 May 2010 11:40AM
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wait wait, i know. lets take the freestyle and the sausages out so you just have to sail down wind and gybe around the buoys, then you don't even need to be able to jump to do it.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
5 May 2010 4:12PM
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it's not a point of being able to jump or not.

everyone can jump to some degree.

but try and do a jump over a 1 foot high sausage at a particular point and see how you go. you may be trying to jump out of the trough of a swell. unless you can jump your board 2+ft in the air off flat water good luck....

ozpricey
WA, 333 posts
5 May 2010 8:53PM
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It should be an obstacle course with archers with flame arrows and piranhas and everyone gets to run over question boxes like mariocart and you can lay bananas or shoot red shells and if you fall off you die.

Plus every now and then its bonus round and Moses comes out and parts the sea and you have to jump over it.

Haircut
QLD, 6491 posts
6 May 2010 1:37PM
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curac said...

wait wait, i know. lets take the freestyle and the sausages out so you just have to sail down wind and gybe around the buoys, then you don't even need to be able to jump to do it.


don't stop there. we only gotta ditch the buoys too and then it'll be just like sailing at wello, manly and the train

EVERYONE'S COMPETITIVE!!



NotWal
QLD, 7430 posts
6 May 2010 7:45PM
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windaddict said...

I think it would be better if they took out the free style element but just left the sausages to jump over, it would allow the average sailor who can do basic jumps to be able to compete.


That's good idea. Hurdles

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
6 May 2010 8:10PM
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Haircut said...

curac said...

wait wait, i know. lets take the freestyle and the sausages out so you just have to sail down wind and gybe around the buoys, then you don't even need to be able to jump to do it.


don't stop there. we only gotta ditch the buoys too and then it'll be just like sailing at wello, manly and the train

EVERYONE'S COMPETITIVE!!





we could ditch the sailing also and sit on chairs and discuss the wind.

ozpricey
WA, 333 posts
7 May 2010 12:02AM
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we could ditch the sailing also and sit on chairs and discuss the wind.


pretty much sums up this forum

AUS2001
NSW, 86 posts
7 May 2010 9:13PM
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Bring back to the future supercross,because I now have a new HOVERBOARD!

Paul Yeomans
WA, 66 posts
7 May 2010 7:50PM
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Well let`s do it, a trial run next season? There`s heaps of bump and jump crew out there that dont have the gear to race and arn`t down the line wavesailors so it`ll be their time to shine!
I think we should get together and discuss more so if anyones keen on the idea send me a PM.
Cheers

flipper4444
VIC, 1214 posts
8 May 2010 1:07AM
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Paul Yeomans said...

Well let`s do it, a trial run next season? There`s heaps of bump and jump crew out there that dont have the gear to race and arn`t down the line wavesailors so it`ll be their time to shine!
I think we should get together and discuss more so if anyones keen on the idea send me a PM.
Cheers


I am keen and my mate windaddict is keen, to hold a fun event, to try and bring back super cross. We both would only be interested in running a event, where you just have to jump over the sausage, while racing ya buddys, trying to do tricks in between, just makes it too hard for every one.. It would be cool also, if Vic Wave Sailing held a one of event, to see how it goes..

Remember guys too.. alot of guys who went in the supercross events, used 6m sails on flat water.. you dont need much wind or waves to hold a event..

some of the places where i think it would work are Dawson st elwood, ricketts point, Rye, inverloch, sandy point ect..

flipper4444
VIC, 1214 posts
8 May 2010 1:54AM
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25
WA, 319 posts
8 May 2010 9:43PM
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I can recall Scott McKercher telling me several years ago that he did one of the early supercoss races in Fuerte and that on completion of the race he 'threw his guts up' out of total physical effort.
If I recall correctly Scott said it was the most intense and physically demanding thing he had done in windsurfing combining flicky-spin with racing, in waves!!
It died!

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
20 May 2010 5:08PM
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Gave up on hard surfaces a long time ago , a bit of water moto x ?

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
20 May 2010 5:12PM
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Rather just get run over

NotWal
QLD, 7430 posts
21 May 2010 7:01PM
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25 said...

I can recall Scott McKercher telling me several years ago that he did one of the early supercoss races in Fuerte and that on completion of the race he 'threw his guts up' out of total physical effort.
If I recall correctly Scott said it was the most intense and physically demanding thing he had done in windsurfing combining flicky-spin with racing, in waves!!
It died!


That'd make you super cross.



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