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Quad fin board from starboard

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Created by Paul > 9 months ago, 27 May 2009
Paul
WA, 346 posts
27 May 2009 12:58PM
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It is official
here is a link to the Boards website which has the new Starboard Quad fin board details.
http://www.boards.co.uk/news/article.asp?id=3316

FilthyAmatuer
WA, 877 posts
27 May 2009 1:28PM
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whats the damage $$$?

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
28 May 2009 1:28AM
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www.totalwind.net/foro/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36712&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

interesting shape,

looks the goods.

Rider5
WA, 567 posts
28 May 2009 10:42AM
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Looks like boards pulled that link, too early release perhaps ?????[}:)]

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
28 May 2009 11:55AM
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The contents were copied here

www.westozwind.com.au/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1096

if you want to read what was there earlier

Reflex Films
WA, 1458 posts
28 May 2009 12:46PM
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I rode some of the twins last summer and while they were incredibly amazingly loose in the top turn- and quite drivey once on rail thru the bottom turn - the price in mobility was too much for me to pay - and they were skittish on fast driven big wave bottom turns. Fantastic for progressing wave sailors riding mushy waves though...well suited for corros, cross on winter mush, the spot (this place really isnt as punchy as its made out to be), green head (there is one grunty section but the rest is pretty mushy)

And then the quads come along.

The inside word is that these boards combine a really fast rocker line with incredible drive - and looseness.

so the holy grail of fast planing and drive thru bottom turns to super looseness in the top turn is on its way to us!

However-

I have an all round fast and loose single fin set up that works insane for me right now (acid 80 / Kode 80 - so safe in big airs - perfectly predictable directional boost out of the lip Never ever lets me down on punts at margs and up north - whereas smaller fin set ups have got me into trouble occasionally when the sailing gets real - by adding a random 15 degree variance to my projection - same with jumps - especially nasty in backies and fwds where your projection needs to be super accurate)

Having heard so much inside goodness- i am personally quite interested in the new quad set up up! The safe "out of the lip boost" on logo to mast high waves will be the acid test of this concept for me. And also the directional jumpability - which is really the same thing.

Apparently the quads plane up super early and may go upwind slightly better but dont quite hold the same top end speed as a single - so the rig pressure may not be able to be bled off completely with a quad - you know - that weightless feeling the rig gets when you are at top speed.

There are some very excited riders in the SB team that have ridden these bad boys.. cant wait to try one!

stehsegler
WA, 3542 posts
28 May 2009 3:12PM
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Reflex Films,

Did you try the JP twin fins? I found the 84 JP twin fin performed pretty much as the 82 RWW with the only difference that 84 twin turned a lot better. As far as early planing and speed goes I felt both boards were very similar.

The only time I thought the single fin had the upper hand was in very very gusty onshore conditions.

whippingboy
WA, 1104 posts
28 May 2009 3:26PM
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I thought I saw that idea before !! Only took 24 years for windsurfing to catch up



westozwind
WA, 1415 posts
28 May 2009 3:53PM
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I don't think Matt (Reflex) is too interested in JP's
Starboard man through and through I reckon
He is also a windsurfing freak and I'd trust his reviews on boards.

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
28 May 2009 8:07PM
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i dont get why they are selling the quad with an extra box to make it a single as well.
convertible FTL!

Fast Eddy
NSW, 174 posts
28 May 2009 8:50PM
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I want one. Now please!

Reflex Films
WA, 1458 posts
28 May 2009 6:54PM
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i havent ridden the JPs but from my observations they seemed a little faster to plane up - but potentially not as loose -basically a safer down the middle option for the designers - they look like they go pretty good. Saw lots of crew sailing well on them last summer.

The Starboards appeared to be more hardcore dedicated to the wildest loosest top turn experience possible. At the expense of some speed and planing.

The big scary "why am i doing this to myself?" mast high 3d wave throw sessions are when boards prove themselves to me.

Fast Eddy
NSW, 174 posts
28 May 2009 9:20PM
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I tried both the JP and Starboard twins last summer. Reflex is spot on the JP's have a long flat section that make planning easy and are a very nice board. The evil twin was looser and more forgiving, i didn't get a chance to sail in it any decent waves, but it was my preference of the two. I can't wait to get my hands on this one.

P.C_simpson
WA, 1491 posts
28 May 2009 9:45PM
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I had a chat with some guys after some testing of the new quads, there was thumbs up all round, fast and lose.

I got a look at on aswell, very similar to the twins from last year as far as outline. i actually thought it was a twin till i flipped it over. but at a closer look the rails are a bit thinner in the tail. the thing that i would be concerned about with the quads would be the weight in the tail with the extra boxes..

Will definately like to have a run on one as i rode the Evil Twins during summer and they where awesome boards for small punchy waves..

curac
WA, 1157 posts
29 May 2009 1:21AM
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I thought the evil twin felt pretty average and not very loose at all, kind of hard to turn unless you were on a powerfull really wally wave. Then they felt good. I was keen to get one untill I tried it.
But that is just to say it didn't suit me or my style.

Now I have a custom board by pd thAt is sick. Loosest board ever

Rider5
WA, 567 posts
29 May 2009 10:40AM
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I have posted this on another forum and as this topic came up here I thought it is food for thought......

Singles, Twins, Thrusters and now Quads. I'm really keen to try a quad and out of curiosity I'd like to make one, but that got me thinking were would I put the fins which lead me to thinking how do we know if Sboard has it right?

Single fin placement now thats pretty easy, twin well only a few variables, Thrusters well years ago I made a few of those and I didn't find the right configuration I was happy with I know Bourke(witchcraft) did.

But Quads the amount of variables to try out and R&D is huge ! Toe in or parrallel? front set or back set or both? canter one set or both? fin placement in relation to each other and the boards rocker and rail shape, fin size in relationship to all the previous points mentioned. Flex outline and foil shape of the fin and this in relationship to the combined possible computations. One more... plan shape of the board and rocker related to the many possible variations.

In these early stages of quads it seems like a bit of a lucky dip to me.

Rider5

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
29 May 2009 9:49PM
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I like that Starboard have got the balls to try these things

gazza
WA, 647 posts
29 May 2009 11:36PM
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i saw them testing them at g-loo in march and missed out to trying one cause scotty had broke to many fins.

the boards they were testing were evos just with 4 fins

are they trying quad fins to replace the twin fin which also looked like an evo with 2 fins?

i give it 2 years

Rider5
WA, 567 posts
30 May 2009 12:13AM
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How did they seem to go on the wave Gnarloo Gazza ?

WINDY MILLER
WA, 3183 posts
30 May 2009 10:49AM
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sven got me to try them 3 yrs ago, when the idea was just a twinkle in the designers eye.

went up to aussie pipeline on a double mast day, ok on the BT's, good for 5 second floaters, excelled in triple back loops but did seem to drag a bit on the 5m barrells.

7/10


beat u2it - E A H

gazza
WA, 647 posts
30 May 2009 3:52PM
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Rider5 said...

How did they seem to go on the wave Gnarloo Gazza ?


in all fairness to scott i think he was in a lot of pain with his hip but he wasnt really ripping it up they were doing a lot of fin changes so maybe they were still trying to get the correct combo.

i did get to try the 74lt twin fin but found it to wide in the tail compared to my quattro twinny just couldnt get the fins to stick on the top turns where as my board stuck like glue

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
30 May 2009 6:42PM
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here is a cpoy of the info off some random forum. is exactly the same that was pulled from boards:

www.totalwind.net/foro/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36712&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Mark _australia
WA, 23447 posts
31 May 2009 7:28PM
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WINDY MILLER said...

sven got me to try them 3 yrs ago, when the idea was just a twinkle in the designers eye.

went up to aussie pipeline on a double mast day, ok on the BT's, good for 5 second floaters, excelled in triple back loops but did seem to drag a bit on the 5m barrells.

7/10


beat u2it - E A H


Too many red thumbs there so I just thought I'd mention it was funny

Riders raises some good points

curac
WA, 1157 posts
31 May 2009 9:31PM
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gazza said...

Rider5 said...

How did they seem to go on the wave Gnarloo Gazza ?


in all fairness to scott i think he was in a lot of pain with his hip but he wasnt really ripping it up they were doing a lot of fin changes so maybe they were still trying to get the correct combo.

i did get to try the 74lt twin fin but found it to wide in the tail compared to my quattro twinny just couldnt get the fins to stick on the top turns where as my board stuck like glue


Move the finsback. It's all about fin position with the twins



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