Couldn't find a review here or anywhere on net.
Is it a big man's waveboard, or a big waveboard for a lighter guy? I am 90kg and am looking for a floater that can get me out in 10-15kn with ease but still turn nice on a wave
Hi there, I'm 70kg and using the 2012 Quatro LS Quad 85L.
I use it as a floater (no pb to uphaul) and can get out in very light wind (as long as there is no onshore in it, it is always good fun). I keep using the board til 20knots, then I switch to smaller. I love the board.
Pros: Turns nice (short or wide turns), snappy, v strong board (looks as new after a season and a half).
Cons: bit heavy (I guess that s why it s strong..)
Cheers
I've only had my LS quad 110 L a short time and the wind hasn't blown apart from one 30 minute session I had in a dying cross onshore wind. I'm about 87-90 kg and bought it as a light wind wave machine - if the kites can fly I want to be able to sail. First impression is that it slogs out very well and pumps onto a wave nicely as long as there is enough wind to pump the sail. On a wave it felt smooth and easy to initiate the bottom turn, and kept up speed well through the top turn.
I'll report back when I've got more substantive to write.
Adam, can't help on the 110Ltr Quatro but can say that I do float out in 8knots with my Exocet Exowave 105ltr and I'm 90kgs. 110ltr should be fine.
Only issue is you're looking to go out in light cross on which I don't enjoy unless I'm SUPsailing as it's hard to get the drive for DTL stuff (unless you're happy with backside).
Cheers
Hi AJ
Likewise, I am 94kg and use a 106 litre JP thruster in light conditions and its enough to get me out in lighter conditions.
I do think the tri fin and quad fin set ups and much better for manoeuvrability in the wave ride (versus the single fin)
See you on the waves sometime
Jason Juretic
From previous discussion I know both Levi and Keith have an affinity towards surf board style wave riding. The Quad LS therefore should be in the same league as the Fanatic Quads aka leaning towards down the line waves.
Looking at the specks of the Quatro 110 Quad it looks very similar to the Fanatic Quad 101, bar the difference in volume. While I might be wrong I'd say this board is designed for super light wind pure wave riding. Probably not the best board for onshore waves but I bet it would work great in light wind down the line conditions such as you find in Gerroa, Gnaraloo etc.
FYI, there are a number of people that also swear by the 110 / 115 l OES Quads. A mate has a 110l OES Quad and it's stupidly light.
Hay Adam
Gave up on the 104 did you. I try to buy 2 of them from 2 shops and missed out by only a few days. I run a 120 starboard kode for my light winder and get out befor the kites with my 99kg frame.
I rode a 115 rrd the other day and was out in the same light wind and could up haul. You might only need to go 15 ltrs bigger then your weight
I'm going to be in port Monday till Wednesday this week. If there's any wind might see you at middle rock.
Cheers tommy.
Off topic (sorry Adam...), but Mr Prawnhead, have you been up SWR's over spring / summer period? Been a great season - wind and waves. Bar has been epic a few times too. Seen a few kiteboarders out the other week, thought one may have been you. Dude with a yellow board, middle aged, beer gut? ![]()
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Cheers,
Phil
Give it a good wrap hey. And he's about the same size as you, and chose it for light wind wave sailing. So all sounds good. I hope you grab one soon. They certainly look sweet.
PS- Sailing down Port way tomorrow arv if ya about- Queens or Marks J's speed run, not sure.
Catch ya.
I recently got a custom from Keith which is based on the 95L/110L LS quads.
It is unreal in up to head high waves and lighter wind.
I am 80kg and normally start sloging around with A Goya banzai 5m in 10 knots.
The LS quad rocker (Quatro rocker #4) feels a good compromise between speed/turning. It is a really 'slippery' rocker and feels like it is making no drag on a wave. When you drive hard into a bottom turn (on a small wave) you can really feel the board 'spring' off the bottom and accellerate. Bottom shape is their usual single to double concave with a bit of vee off the tail. The rail flow of Keith's boards are so perfect and you can see a real surfboard heritage in them.
I have been building my own boards since 1996 (including CNC shaped ones) and to be honest, they all feel like dogs now after riding this Quatro. I finally conceed the fact that there is probably no substitute for r&d and a heap of top riders e.g. LS providing input.
As far as wave riding goes it is probably impossible for you to be disappointed with a Quatro?
Incidentally, i was checking out all the pros boards at a wave comp in Maui recently and was shocked to observe that most are riding Keith's boards rebadged as other brands. I wont mention any names or will I - haha.
Hope this helps.
I had another sail on the 110. Conditions were really crappy - wind looked like it would increase to a sailable level but never got strong enough to plane, then died, then came back 30 minutes later strong enough to plane for about 30 minutes then died again. Waves were knee high with occasional waist/chest high waves. Gutless windswell from wind out to sea that wasn't getting in to the beach. Wind was cross onshore. I initially went out on the 110, then switched to sailing a SUP, then when wind picked up again switched back to sailing the 110.
Initial impression - if the wind is not strong enough to plane on the way out and the waves are less than waist / chest high then sailing a small (8'5) SUP is a lot more fun - for gutless conditions a sailable SUP is still king. If the waves are big enough to power the board on the wave, then the 110 L is a lot of fun, but it really does need something to power it, either the wave or the wind.
I look forward to sailing the board a lot more, but so far I'm happy with my purchase. It slogs out in non planable conditions very easily. When the wind was strong enough to plane, it pops onto the plane easily. Jibes well - did a lot of pump to get board to plane and immediately jibe onto incoming swell - board whips round nicely, easy to find straps and initiate a bottom turn. If the wind is not strong enough to plane except on a wave with a bit of power it maintains speed well through the bottom turn / top turn with good technique (or bad technique if there is enough wind).
Winter is not our windy season so I was happy to get another day on the LS 110 quad yesterday. Initially wind was low 20s so I rigged a 5.5 and was overpowered. Then the wind dropped to about 15 mph and all the kiters and other sailors went in. I switched boards to the 110 L and had a blast. The board is so easy to slog. White water was a breeze to pop over. Waves were about head high to occasional overhead. The board initiates a bottom turn so nicely and keeps its speed really well through the bottom turn top turn combo. Plus it redirects really easily mid bottom turn to either draw it out or tighten it up. Best sail so far (of 3) on this board.
Hi Adam, I might be a bit late replying to this and if so I hope you bought the LS110. I just read the review above and totally agree with everything he says. Im currently around the 98kg post Christmas mass. My 110 floats me no worries at all. I sailed the other day and the wind reported was 11 to 14 knots. I love mine and highly recommend it.
I hope this is helpful.
Jason
If you want a big guy's waveboard, NOT a lightwind waveboard yes I agree there is a difference.
Flyweights can use a full rockered big board on light days as they just want the volume - but that does not necessarily suit a heavy guy who also wants early planing.
If you are heavy and are happy to always grovel out in 15-18kn cos you live in cross-off heaven, yes get a waveboard. But if you need to plane to get some airtime too, a pure wave shape with just a more volume will not do it for ya.
a 110L waveboard is not an early planer, it is a fat waveboard.
After many years of fragging around on various FSW boards which got me out there and planing early, but were sooo frustrating as they would not turn like my waveboard (even a single fin) I think I finally have it nailed.
This year I got a Goya One 105L. Farrkin love it.
It planes early (not as much as a RRD or JP FSW, but close)
BUT it turns!! I can get it to rotate in the top turn the same as my 92L RRD single (2011 model) and can get it to tighten up a bottom turn to hit the section if I want - and the latter is what used to **** me bad on FSW's
So it is finally a FSW that is more like an early planing waveboard........... whereas most FSW's are a freeride that is just loose enough to maybe B&J in the waves.
I sacrificed 1knot of planing threshold (ie: maybe 1cm of downhaul??) for a massive increase in wave riding ability.
I love it.