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Expert Wavesailor gets booked for not wearing PFD

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Created by gmitton > 9 months ago, 3 Aug 2012
gmitton
SA, 1450 posts
3 Aug 2012 8:20PM
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maris said...

suggest advise location by text message/onboard etc
as might have some unwelcome spectators

Harry got pinged for no pfd by a transport sa officer who was stalking him from the beach at day st. yesterday
Harry says he will have a good look at whos on the beach and what cars are in the car park before he comes in in future- doubts theyd get their feet wet.
I have lent him a type 3 pfd which is acceptable inside 400m

Harry was wondering if anyone knows if its a requirement to identify yourself to a transport sa officer? if so whats the penalty for failing to do so?
Given theres no rego system for windsurfing its going to be hard to ID sailors.

Notwithstanding that the rules appear to require a pfd for "sailboarding"
A 7 foot waveboard sailed in the surf is far closer to a surfboard than anything else in my opinion.
The logic behind a surfer's PFD exemption in the surf is that the surf will push the surfer to shore. This argument is equally true for a waveboard operated in the surf, and is strengthened by the fact a pfd increases the risk of entanglement and entrapment with/under your rig by limiting your scope to dive clear.
Unfortunately it will take legislation or someone challenging in court to change. or someone wearing a pfd getting trapped under their sail in the surf and drowning.

IN the meantime when that transport sa officer who was posting on this site reads the above, keep in mind that there is a strong argument PFDs may reduce safety in the surf. This is supported by the lack of a requirement that is enforced anywhere else in the world that i am aware of to wear a PFD in the surf windsurfing.

South Australia has produced some world class sailors, what a shame when Ben comes home he'll have to wear a pfd, as will any mates that he brings with him, just when SA was starting to get a profile and attract interest from interstate and overseas.

Cant help thinking we are being tarred with the same brush as the tea baggers; again there is a clear difference- our boards have substantial positive flotation, many times that of PFD buoyancy requirements and we are strapped to them.
kite boards are much smaller and often have next to no surplus buoyancy.




Let the fun begin... Thought I would post this separately to get some statistics.. We need to work out how to get this law changed as suggested by Maris. Anyone know the next steps? If not please enjoy posting your anger to this thread so I can feel self justified when I get booked by this stickler ...

WsurfingSA
SA, 400 posts
4 Aug 2012 1:45PM
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OK, some encouraging news has come to hand.

Apparently the Windsurf and Kite associations of Victoria got together and were able (eventually) to get the law about PFD's in surf changed.

Hopefully something we can emulate once this comp is under our belt.

The more members we have, the more we can be seen as speaking for all windsurfers in the State.

Cheers, Richard
Secretary, Windsurfing SA

jn1
SA, 2653 posts
4 Aug 2012 2:17PM
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I've signed up (wsa.roundtablelive.org). Best of luck Richard.

Brick
SA, 66 posts
4 Aug 2012 5:29PM
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mmmm... " Unfortunately it will take legislation or someone challenging in court to change. or someone wearing a pfd getting trapped under their sail in the surf and drowning."..........I think the first part of this statement is what is needed ,as to the second part ,well if someone died with a PFD on nobody in government is going to give a **** about one person dying who is of a small minority group ,they have plenty of self righteous blah blah to drown out the sound of a complaint for someone dying because of their legislation. It's really up to them to prove to the community that wearing a PFD is NOT dangerous and will definitely save a life .
I CHOOSE to wear one when I sail , but iff I was an expert sailor I would want the CHOICE to wear one!!!

Steve of the "can you see my middle finger sticking up?" crowd.

barri
SA, 317 posts
4 Aug 2012 5:33PM
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I'll sign up! This guy almost got me at goolwa lake in Feburary and said he was instructed to keep an eye out for windsurfers.

Gwendy
SA, 472 posts
4 Aug 2012 9:56PM
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One of the things I'm enjoying most about my stay in NSW is that they don't seem to be into all the nanny state bullsh!t that goes on in SA.

I'm free to do things here that I've been prosecuted for in SA.

It takes fools half an hour to pass this kind of legislation that a well organised lobby group takes years to overcome.

Its worth the fight if we respect our freedoms.

dazza5172
SA, 311 posts
16 Aug 2012 9:52AM
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I got warned last weekend at Middleton, kitesurfers have the same issue and we are mounting a case to Marine Safety FYI. when in the surf we have to be treated like surfers and have need to duck under waves when our gear is down, duck boards and not get washed into equipment by a bomb. A pfd is going to do nothing for you if you are being smashed around in the surf. Surfers don't wear them as the surf will create a danger and impede the ability to swim and go under waves. We need to get this legislation changed



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