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trifin formula - modified formula project

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Created by jdemol > 9 months ago, 25 Feb 2015
jdemol
NSW, 25 posts
25 Feb 2015 6:09PM
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Hi all,

Just want to share a project I've been working on recently with the windsurf community here. I've had an idea for a while to convert a formula board to be able to take three weed fins to allow sailing in shallow waters and weedy conditions. The concept is mainly for fun sailing in very light winds and in areas on the lake where I normally sail (Lake Illawarra) that you couldn't normally access on a formula setup. Was also interested in how it might still work course racing in weedy conditions for example, or maybe with outboard straight fins in a twin fin setup. Would be very versatile anyway, once the boxes were in.

Did a lot of research but couldn't find much info on this kind of thing. Did find some stuff about a twinfin formula and noticed some similarish projects here on seabreeze which I got some ideas from. Decided in the end to install two powerboxes perfectly parallel to the centreline into a fanatic falcon tt05 formula board that I had, the underwater shape of which lent itself well to the trifin setup (see photos). Did the installation (a first for me) over christmas mainly, and have tested the setup three times now in different conditions.

I put together some footage from two of the sessions below. It all worked as good or better than I'd hoped. Gets up and planes very early. Interestingly it still rides flat even with me using the footstraps in the usual outboard positions. Plenty of drive and not a hint (ever!) of spinout. Really fun to go hammering through glassy water in the primbee shallows with a 10.6. Have only really tested the three weed fin combo pictured below so far. The fins are about 27-28cm. The whole feel of the board is still very much like a formula board (understable I guess) and while it gets upwind respectably, its definitely not as good as proper formula, prob more like a good slalom setup. I've raced it pretty successfullly against raceboards in an 8-18 kt NEer. Lots of potential for more testing of different fin arrangements/sizes, eg like three deltas :)

Here's some photos/videos of the process and finished product:






















pwatts22
NSW, 58 posts
25 Feb 2015 6:41PM
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Thanks for sharing John love seeing people modifying equipment

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
25 Feb 2015 5:44PM
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Great mod and looks like it works a treat. next stop Lake George

Dean 424
NSW, 440 posts
25 Feb 2015 7:37PM
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Great idea, a lot of flat areas are weedy and shallow. Well done.

KevinD002
226 posts
25 Feb 2015 4:52PM
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Wow that's awesome! Well done!

bushfire
NSW, 354 posts
25 Feb 2015 8:05PM
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Great stuff John. I reckon the weed fin on the right is what makes it work!!
Good vids!
Must have a go soon.

FormulaNova
WA, 15083 posts
25 Feb 2015 6:42PM
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Awesome!

I have the same board and have thought about doing the same sort of thing, but as usual, I am lazy and never got around to it. Good to see it works.

Has anyone got any thoughts about running two fins in-line? I.e. adding a finbox in front of the existing one and run two similar fins?

Will that give me twice the lift, or will they interfere with each other.

I have two hifly madd boards, which are twin-fin, and its quite easy to get one fin to spin-out while the other one is tracking fine. I figure that's because they are probably slightly underfinned. Your tri-fin avoids that and still gives around the same fin-depth. Good work.


GeoGeo
QLD, 146 posts
26 Feb 2015 12:38AM
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great videos too

AUS02
TAS, 2038 posts
27 Feb 2015 9:26PM
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Great idea and the videos were excellent!

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
28 Feb 2015 1:43PM
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Great video presentation
Great idea, now I have a winter sort of project to play with so can use it at the Mandurah Estuary

decrepit
WA, 12761 posts
28 Feb 2015 4:56PM
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So I'm interested in how it foot steers with parallel fins? My twin fin ground effect thingoe, didn't foot steer well at all until I toed the fins in a couple of degrees. It still doesn't feel right so I've added a 3rd central fin, but haven't tested that combo yet.
But I am using very highly raked delta style fins, about 60 degrees from memory, that may be part of the problem.

It's very encouraging to see you've got the concept working though, great stuff! I'll have to do some more testing with mine.

jdemol
NSW, 25 posts
28 Feb 2015 11:45PM
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It footsteers fine decrepit, no different to normal formula, might jibe slightly better. I did see the thread on your project and I was worried I might have the same problem.

decrepit
WA, 12761 posts
1 Mar 2015 10:44PM
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Could be the centre fin makes all the difference, I'll find out soon.

forceten
1312 posts
1 Mar 2015 11:36PM
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Nice work , mini tuttle boxes ? I had thoughts to make a Formula a twin, but never did.

I need a board for shallow waters, and shore line rocks, so I turned this Tabou Rocket 135 into a tri, using 2+1 fins, it is slightly slower both to plane and speed but it turn like 100L. Works really well.

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I also made my own BLACK BOX.

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