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WindTech Cruise Missile 9'4"

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Created by CrimsonFlash > 9 months ago, 10 Oct 2020
CrimsonFlash
WA, 72 posts
10 Oct 2020 1:05PM
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The new WindTech Cruise Missile is ready for launching.

AJEaster
NSW, 697 posts
11 Oct 2020 6:14PM
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I simply have to get one!

CrimsonFlash
WA, 72 posts
11 Oct 2020 9:19PM
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Took the Missile for a run today on a very choppy Swan River. It lived up to expectations of yet another superb design from Mr Scheltema. It loved going deep off the wind and handled the chop with ease. Fast, cruisy, comfortable - a real pleasure to sail. Look forward to lots more hours on it now the sea breezes have kicked in! Very stoked.


azymuth
WA, 2154 posts
11 Oct 2020 9:47PM
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CrimsonFlash said..
Took the Missile for a run today on a very choppy Swan River. It lived up to expectations of another superb design from Mr Scheltema. It loved going deep off the wind and handled the chop with ease. Fast, cruisy, comfortable - a real pleasure to sail. Look forward to lots more hours on it now the sea breezes have kicked in! Very stoked.





The proto was incredible maxed-out off the wind in chop - crazy quick and super controllable

How good does this first production board look !!
Like all the other Windtechs I'll bet the construction is first class.

firiebob
WA, 3172 posts
12 Oct 2020 1:27PM
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azymuth said..

CrimsonFlash said..
Took the Missile for a run today on a very choppy Swan River. It lived up to expectations of another superb design from Mr Scheltema. It loved going deep off the wind and handled the chop with ease. Fast, cruisy, comfortable - a real pleasure to sail. Look forward to lots more hours on it now the sea breezes have kicked in! Very stoked.





The proto was incredible maxed-out off the wind in chop - crazy quick and super controllable

How good does this first production board look !!
Like all the other Windtechs I'll bet the construction is first class.


Looks like a great ocean cruiser JJ, might be what I need to get back out there, which factory do they come out of ?

Plainview
WA, 179 posts
13 Oct 2020 5:45AM
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I saw it at Peli Pt at the weekend - it's a lovely looking board

chs9527
WA, 1 posts
13 Oct 2020 6:56AM
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I had a quick sail on the Missile Sunday late afternoon at Peli. I had already derigged my gear and so I was using Dan's rig, hence I can't compare the boards performance with my isonic..... this is my first ever sail of a post 1995 Wind Tech..... the board felt amazing on the water, very fast but in massive comfort with no danger of catching the noes going deep over chop. Super keen to sail it with my rig at the next opportunity. LG Lifes Good ??

azymuth
WA, 2154 posts
13 Oct 2020 8:17AM
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firiebob said..Looks like a great ocean cruiser JJ, might be what I need to get back out there, which factory do they come out of ?


Hey Bob - I think you'll love it
Built in the Kinetic factory in Vietnam
Email Neil or Dan - I'm sure they'll organise a demo
windtechwindsurf@gmail.com

FNQBilly
QLD, 111 posts
13 Oct 2020 10:33AM
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firiebob said..Looks like a great ocean cruiser JJ, might be what I need to get back out there, which factory do they come out of ?



Hey Bob - I think you'll love it
Built in the Kinetic factory in Vietnam
Email Neil or Dan - I'm sure they'll organise a demo
windtechwindsurf@gmail.com


Ditto. Saving up now myself. Reckon she'd be awesome for our FNQ waters . Bob, the build quality that these guys get is up there with the best. Well worth having a close look at.

firiebob
WA, 3172 posts
13 Oct 2020 12:16PM
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azymuth said..

firiebob said..Looks like a great ocean cruiser JJ, might be what I need to get back out there, which factory do they come out of ?



Hey Bob - I think you'll love it
Built in the Kinetic factory in Vietnam
Email Neil or Dan - I'm sure they'll organise a demo
windtechwindsurf@gmail.com


Thanks JJ, I was hoping it came out of Kinetic factory, I'll start saving

firiebob
WA, 3172 posts
13 Oct 2020 12:21PM
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FNQBilly said..

azymuth said..


firiebob said..Looks like a great ocean cruiser JJ, might be what I need to get back out there, which factory do they come out of ?




Hey Bob - I think you'll love it
Built in the Kinetic factory in Vietnam
Email Neil or Dan - I'm sure they'll organise a demo
windtechwindsurf@gmail.com



Ditto. Saving up now myself. Reckon she'd be awesome for our FNQ waters . Bob, the build quality that these guys get is up there with the best. Well worth having a close look at.


Billio, Yeh mate I've had a Kinetic made board before and quality was great. This thing looks like it was designed for FNQ for sure

Searoamer
NSW, 297 posts
13 Oct 2020 5:21PM
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My order is locked in, Cruise Missile coming soon to non-foiling days/ locations along the Illawarra and NSW coast Supplies are very limited in this first batch, and FOMO hit me hard

I have several of Neil's Windtech 2.0 gems, love them all, and they all deliver exactly what it says on the box

I only got into the sport c.2000, so missed out on the earlier generations of longer slalom designs
Can't wait to light her up , and experience a very different ride to the endless short&wide creations of recent years

Reviews to follow....

CrimsonFlash
WA, 72 posts
15 Oct 2020 8:06PM
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Some early feedback from a local WA sailor (Pacey) that has one of the Cruise Missiles......
"The board is a winner, fast, controllable, gybes unbelievably, goes deep off the wind well, goes upwind well even with a 20cm delta fin."

When asked about first impressions...
"Yep, very pleased, great all round board. Best thing is the gybing, in flat water it's like it's on a rail."

and a bit later after a session today at Liptons (Peel Inlet)....
"Good sail. Went out overpowered with a 7.0 in 20+ knots, but no control issues at all, even with a short fin going through big chop in the Lipton's channel. It takes me a while to get my confidence with new boards and fins as I never fully trust them until I work out how much I can push them, but this felt good, particularly pulling away either in chop or on a speed run in a big gust."

Wahoo! Nice one Pacey. Let's have a go at the 30kt NM off Leighton on the weekend!! JJ has put the challenge out there.

Searoamer
NSW, 297 posts
29 Oct 2020 6:27PM
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My CM has arrived in Illawarra, ultra-packed and undamaged as usual
Can't wait to get her on the water - proportions are so right it doesn't look 287 long - tail section is great, loads of volume and sweet domed shape underfoot, great float on the gusty days
Grabbed a WT Stealth 20 with it, as for CM early feedback is very +ve
Now I just have to remember how to fin-surf after so much foiling ....

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8225 posts
31 Oct 2020 3:21PM
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Peter Hands said..
My CM has arrived in Illawarra, ultra-packed and undamaged as usual
Can't wait to get her on the water - proportions are so right it doesn't look 287 long - tail section is great, loads of volume and sweet domed shape underfoot, great float on the gusty days
Grabbed a WT Stealth 20 with it, as for CM early feedback is very +ve
Now I just have to remember how to fin-surf after so much foiling ....


Neil certainly packs them well . Board packaged and in a sleeve as well, then inside a box that then goes inside another box !

AJEaster
NSW, 697 posts
4 Dec 2020 6:23PM
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Had my Missile for a couple of weeks now, just waiting for wind. Had the first sail a few days ago, fully lit on a KA Race 7m with a 34cm Meanline fin.

Initial impression: Trucks upwind and smokes downwind. It gybes best when leaning super forward to engage a chunk of the long rail, and with the length, it is super easy to tack. My favorite and most surprising bit was running deep downwind over the 2-3ft rolling swells in the river...the longer nose helped to promote a dry and fast ride OVER the chop, not through it like my short wide slalom boards (and short and wide freestyle board) do in the same conditions. I was initially curious how she would go in the rolling swells with so much volume in the tail and rails, but there was no problem, it was quite a commanding and comfy position to ride in.

Why did I buy this board? Our local spot for high wind has a 200m patch of shallow flat water on a mud bank which is fun for GPS. Normally we sail out to the mud bank on small boards and stick to the mud bank for speed. This beast will allow me to sail the whole lake with ease, with the aim being that I can sail through the swell on the lake with ease and hit the flat water at pace. At 90kg, the extra volume and length will also easily float me home when the wind dies (which it occasionally does, which means a derig and paddle/walk home).

Further updates to come. Stoked so far...hanging for a smoking westerly to get her on the lake

climber
NSW, 1125 posts
6 Dec 2020 9:05PM
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The ocean is now friend mr Easter ????

AJEaster
NSW, 697 posts
6 Dec 2020 10:53PM
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The ocean is now friend mr Easter ????


Hell yes GMac............just about to get some new tendons off MJ, as the current ones are 7yo and an accident waiting to happen offshore. The Missile will be sweet in the ocean and big bays and lakes like yours down south.................... I have also just purchased a WindTech Magic Bullet 95 for the ocean/beach......hopefully get a run on that soon, such a nice looking shape.

CrimsonFlash
WA, 72 posts
10 Dec 2020 5:29PM
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Had the missile out today at Albany (Lilacs speed spot) in some pretty hectic conditions. Was up against a bunch of guys on dedicated speed guns (48cm to 55cm wide - patriks, mistral, JP, Nude, CA etc.). I was a bit overcooked on a 6.3 Loft racing blade and was running a 20cm Stealth windtech fin. The tide wasn't optimal for the nautical mile run however the missile felt very settled down the course and never felt "out of control" or any hint of tail walking (like some I saw on the gunnier speed boards). I can almost taste the 40kt mark (didn't quite make it today but getting close). Results from today on GPSTC below
gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2020-12-10&team=12

After chatting to some more experienced speed sailors last night, I tuned the board and set the mast track back 13cm from forward and dropped the front straps back a notch (2 holes forward of most rear hole) and rear straps in the middle holes. This seemed quite sweet and felt I was riding the board more efficiently on the tail. Yesterday I had the mast track about 3/4 forward and felt a bit draggy (made for great gybing though but definitely compromised board speed). Dropping it back made a big difference and made a noticeable difference to the board speed (increased my 2sec by 3.6kts - however the extra 10 kts of wind probably had a bit to do with it).

A few guys on shore commented, "wow, that's a big board" and my response was "yes it is - and it's also BIG fun".

If any new Cruise Missile owners (Fangy, AJ Easter, Mr Hands) see this post, suggest you experiment with the settings above. I'm still learning the ropes of this board and loving it more each time I jump on. Absolute hoot. Nice work once again Mr Scheltema - brilliant!!

Searoamer
NSW, 297 posts
13 Dec 2020 8:34AM
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thanks for tipsheet!

Reflex Films
WA, 1458 posts
15 Dec 2020 11:47AM
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The gybes on this board felt amazing to me -accelerating through the rail bite arc. although i tend to set up straps and mast track forward. I am trying to maximise the ability to control the board and apply power. I reckon the straps back might be a bit quicker in the middle of a sail's wind range.

Rear biased set ups may also be quicker in deep off the wind angles too.

fangman
WA, 1903 posts
6 Jan 2021 4:12PM
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Here is my take on the Windtech Cruise Missile - The short version.The board is 287 long, 61 wide and 129 litres, and in that sense, it's all a bit unfashionable since the apparent demise of roof racks. It has the outline reminiscent of a pintail Malibu and carries its wide point and width forward. A gorgeous long sweeping pintail delivers a fabulously controlled ride; feeling alive and up for pushing harder in all the conditions I have tried it in so far. For my size, ability, and local conditions, the WT Cruise is close to being the 'one board' solution and since I have owned one I haven't used any other board. I guess being such a departure from the current market place offerings it will have its haters, but for me, it's very close to the ideal board. If I had to sum it up in two words, (to pinch Aldi's tagline), Good Different.

TL:DR section
Firstly some disclaimers - I am not a sponsored rider and have no financial interests in WindTech. I am big, heavy, uncoordinated, of average ability and used to old school point the toes and the nose out in front sort of stance. When I am kitted up, the board is carrying 120kegs of weight. So for most of the sailing fraternity that is the equivalent to strapping at least two jerry cans of fuel to your back. (not so surprisingly I break harnesses and booms on a regular basis). Please bear this in mind when reading my comments - what applies to me, may well not apply to you.

Handling - in short, ride it hard, and on the tail. I bought the board with the idea of it being a quick all-rounder sort of board that I can use on the vast majority of days where I want to go for a sail all over the paddock but a speed PB is probably not on offer. Thus far I haven't really tried it out for speed because it has just been too much fun out in the lumpy goodness.The long rail will hold the line like a train along the chop lines, so just sheet in and go until you call chicken. I have made it a bit of a mission to find the limit of the envelope and catch the rail on both leeward and windward rails running over the back of chop and turning any which way. So far, all I have proved is that I haven't hurt myself. My guess is that the long lines, rounded rails forward and riding the tail means the entry angles are usually pretty shallow, and the opportunity to 'catch' a surface/rail is limited. A very confidence-inspiring ride which probably contributes to the enjoyment factor. I no longer have to deal with the nagging doubts caused by the unexpected stack a long way from home.
Going uphill is where the 'Miami Vice Cigarette Boat' feel really comes to the fore. Just point the long narrow hull in the direction you want to go, floor it and let your inner Don Johnson and linen suits out once more. Let the length and narrowness do all the work and iron out the bumps. Adjust Wayfarers and Don Henley Soundtrack only if absolutely necessary. The pintail itself is chunky and thick in height in an effort to get some volume back there. It gives a very comfortable surface angle for the back foot and allows some heavy back foot loading without relying on the straps to do the work. Once again, ride it hard on the tail, trust your fin, and I don't reckon you will find a chop that has you unsettled.

Gybing - I am still experimenting with the sweetest turning arc, but so far I can say it turns as hard as you want it to - if you have the weight and aggression you can turn on a ten cent piece, the long rail length and skinny tail mean you have plenty of grips and even a short fin stays in the water. Its strength is probably longer carving arcs where it just goes around on rails and gives me goosebumps.

Fins - I have only ever used a Fangy Fin 20,22,24. The FF22 is probably my go-to fin. The FF20 is delightfully loose, the FF24 overdone for all but the lightest days. Regardless, for 129 litres of board, by today's standards, you don't need much fin.

Mast foot - In anything other than 18 knots plus wind, I find that the mast foot and foot straps forward is better. Trying to bring the position back results in a nose up and twitchy attitude from the board. At displacement speed, I quite often have my front foot in from of the mast in order to trim correctly. To get the highest speeds out of this board, I imagine moving everything back would be beneficial - I am looking forward to doing the experiment.

The Downside - It's all swings and roundabouts, so for all the great things about narrow boards, at some stage, you have to 'pay the ferryman' so to speak. The weaknesses mainly revolve around the downside of pintails and being a bloody big bargearse bloke in general ( nothing to do with the board design.)
It's hard to get unstuck when underpowered. Get used to some pumping if you pick a sail with poor bottom end.
For such a 'long' board, you still have to head off deep downwind to get planning and stay that way when underpowered.
The board is not happy at a slow planing speed and will readily get bogged for a board of its length.
It's a surprising and sizeable hump to get over and planing. Make sure you are up and properly going before you head for the straps as it's also very easy to fall back down into displacement mode.
Unforgiving in gybes. If you let the speed fall too much or are unco with your weight transfer (as I often am) the lack of planing area in the tail means it will quickly bog down. Keep the speed and commitment up to reap the rewards! Mast track too far back for heavy loads and light winds. Even with the mast base as far forward as possible,I have my front foot on the 'cargo net' in displacement mode with my 7.8. to maintain trim angle and transition to planing. (It's not a problem once I am using my 7.0)

Wow well done you for getting this far down the page! In conclusion then, I now only have one board in my trailer, and it's this one. Defo the top of the Top Ten Fangy boards.

Imax1
QLD, 4925 posts
6 Jan 2021 7:02PM
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^^^^
I did read it all , good review . If your not surfing you don't need a short board .
However , when referring us big blokes carrying a couple jerry cans , I'd prefer a couple slabs as that would be more sensible . Don't they have a cargo area just for this . That way the lighter guys won't be faster and they supply beer .
Its a win win

olskool
QLD, 2459 posts
6 Jan 2021 8:26PM
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Interesting BIG review Fangman. Ive not sailed a CM but find it intriguing that a Large bearaway is needed. Not taking away from the FF abilities, but maybe a different fin would promote planing without such a big bearaway?
I can relate to the mastfoot tango when slogging on my Mistral Explosion 130. 38cm pointer n 7.5 Lion lets it point very well slogging or not though. Lions have plenty of low down grunt to get my gumby carcass planing easily.

fangman
WA, 1903 posts
7 Jan 2021 12:35AM
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^^ I think it might be unfair to sheet home any 'slow to plane' issues to the board. I strongly suspect there is just too much weight sitting on its arse in light winds and the physics can't be trumped by a good looking pin tail. When I am properly powered up, it's up and going in a heartbeat, instant smile on the dial and I would expect that to be the case for just about every other sailor. Perhaps I should have written "if you weigh as much as a dinosaur, don't expect the board to get up and boogie in bugger all wind if you have a sail with less bottom end guts than Clive Palmer"
All in all, I can't imagine anyone who buys a Cruise is going to be anything other than completely stoked.
Oh and yes, I agree, I would expect a big pointer would be better.

olskool
QLD, 2459 posts
7 Jan 2021 5:15AM
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I'm not saying slow to plane. Only commenting on the angle of the dangle before she let's go lifts onto the plane.

Imax1
QLD, 4925 posts
7 Jan 2021 7:37AM
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Apart from transport issues , bring back longer boards I say .
I think they took the short and wide trend all the way and more and now may go back a little
As an old revelation years ago for heavy me , I planed much earlier on a older longer narrower 160 litre 78 wide than I did on a 170 litre 90 wide Starboard . The Starboard was faster when planing but took so much more to get over the hump. I know that you can make a longer board go almost as fast as a shorter wider board .
Thats just my prediction for future freeride boards .
The brochures will say , " Smoother ,easier , faster for most ,sleek , new concept ".
Look What Fox are doing with their big V double concave that everybody now loves . Is that not just a tweaked old design ?
Full tweaked circle coming around ???

olskool
QLD, 2459 posts
7 Jan 2021 10:25AM
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^+1 Big concaves are needed to overcome the slap of a wider hull. Longer rockers n more subtle hull form will be faster. But its always a compromise between speed n control n rider ability. Cruise Missile looks to be a good blend of it all.

fangman
WA, 1903 posts
7 Jan 2021 10:27AM
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I'm not saying slow to plane. Only commenting on the angle of the dangle before she let's go lifts onto the plane.



Yeah, sorry Olskool, I got a bit pre occupied that I had incorrectly given the impression that the board had an issue rather than the pilot.

fangman
WA, 1903 posts
10 Jan 2021 6:02PM
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So Dan and Pacey are right. Moving the mast track back when you can is thoroughly recommended. The board just shifts back on its rocker a little more and noticeably frees up. We had a belter of a sea breeze here today and I was well overpowered on my 7.0, but strewth I had a blast running downhill over a the chop scaring the sphincter tighter than ever before. It was so bumpy I couldn't see straight, but can't wait to do it again. Bloody lovin' The Cruise

Searoamer
NSW, 297 posts
21 Jan 2021 4:33PM
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Have my 7.8 race sail back, so time at last for a CM day on Lake Illawarra - to see if I remember how to fin after so much foil
Another Windtech classic!
Easy, slick, push with absolute confidence, high fun, low fatigue - big gusts? more please - chop? what chop?
A blast getting the balance right so it flies on the narrow tail
Needs a bit more power than the 72 wide, less than the 57, exactly as you would expect
Will be my go to Primbee board with WT Stealth 20



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