Firstly thanks guys downunder great website still as ever
Generally have run a 2 board quiver. My weight varies a bit 79.5 to 83 kg depending on how many pies I eat a month
Have a goya custom quad 86 current shape - got to say it's a great board was lucky to get one secondhand. my current other board is a rrd v4 or v5 quad 92 litres -again has been a great board but coming to its end and the gap seems too small
i sail in South Wales (the old one not the new one!) with very strong tides
looking at replacing my bigger board - want a dedicated wave board - a quad. My biggest sail is a 5.7m banzai - will never go bigger now - space in car/garage etc
my main interest in feedback is c 95/96 litres or c 105/106 litres as the bigger waveboard. Instinct tells me 20 litres may be too big a gap but others have indicated may be not
ps a quick review tried the tabou da curve quad v the goya quad. A friend let me try the goya for half an hour and loved it straight away felt very small for its size yet planes early and just feels "sharp" on the wave and a good jumper - thanks Steve. The da curve was really nice but somehow not quite as quick or sharp feeling. Another mate who is a much better sailor tried them both and felt the same.
pps sail goya banzais but same day tried the severne blade c5m was very nice - lighter than the Banzais but less elastic so depends what you like - my better friend preferred the Severn I like maybe slightly gruntier Banzai
pps I am not sponsored - so no kick backs for pushing any brand- one of my nick names is downwind dan so the last thing a brand/ shop/importer wants is me on one of their boards making it look slow!
I use Goya Quads 116 and 96, having 90 kg.
20 liters is perfect for me. First i was affraid about the 116 Liters, but you don't feel them once on a wave. Just perfect.
Overlap is huge 5.7 and 5.0, even gusty 4.5, no problem with the 116.
Just use Twinsers in the flat/smallish waves, really makes a difference (me 18.5 K4 rockets).
Alex
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I use Goya Quads 116 and 96, having 90 kg.
20 liters is perfect for me. First i was affraid about the 116 Liters, but you don't feel them once on a wave. Just perfect.
Overlap is huge 5.7 and 5.0, even gusty 4.5, no problem with the 116.
Just use Twinsers in the flat/smallish waves, really makes a difference (me 18.5 K4 rockets).
Alex
A lot of friends that had testes the goya 116 vs 106, they all found the 116 shape better than the 106, and even if the board is bigger, it turns better according to them.
the DaCurve needs a good wave to push, when you have that, that board is hard to beat in surfing IMO, but not as good in "real wave" condition.
for volume, from 70l to 90L is a big gam, from 86 to 106, less a big gap, I assume it's the same as sail. 3.0 to 4.0 is a bigger gap than 6.0 to 7.0.
Another option you could consider is to allow yourself to have two boards with different design characteristics. This is what I have gone for and I am very pleased with my current set up. I have been trying to find this for at least 15 years... So, I have gone for the following two boards:
- One 83 litre tri/quad (222 long, 58 wide) with more rocker and fully dedicated to proper wave sailing. Control and turning ability is key in this board.
- One 95 litre tri/quad (226 long, 60.5 wide) with a faster rocker, but with a bit of tail kick. Still a full on wave board, but more all-round in character, fairly quick and easy to get going. Mobility is very important for me in this board.
The 83 litre board is aimed for proper wave sailing when there is more size to the swell and decent cross-on to side-off. Or just properly windy. This is used with 3.7 to 5.3, sweet size is powered 4.7. Board is sailed both as tri and quad. It does this really well, even if I need more sessions on it to really give the full review. This board size is perfect for me when proper wave sailing conditions are at hand.
The 95 litre board was a very good decision to get. It already is one of my all time favs. Thanks to the faster rocker, it allowed me to go down slightly in size for my "big" wave board (from 100 litres / 64 wide) without losing hardly any light wind performance but gaining quite a bit when it comes to turning ability. Even if I still like my 100 litre board very much, I must admit that it has hardly seen the water since I got my 95... I almost exclusively use this board in tri fin mode with assy front fins. Also, with the faster rocker, I can easily see this board as quite good in a spot with more current and slightly messy conditions. What I like the most about this board is how incredibly allround it is and still offers proper wave sailing ability. I use it with 5.7 to well powered 4.2 (which was a bit of a pleasant surprise). My fav sail on it is a three batten 5.0 in float n ride or just nicely powered conditions.
For a long time, my two wave boards have grown closer and closer in size, and I am now a strong believer in this solution. With the much improved upper wind range that 80 litre+ multifins offer combined with the approved turning ability that 95 litre+ faster rockered multi-fins are able to deliver, it really works very nicely for me. One of the things I really like doing is to just switch boards depending on conditions. Very gusty and shifty 4.7? 95 litres. Wind and waves picking up? Change to 83. Bigger waves and solid 5.3? 83. Declining winds? Change to 95.
I have tried some bigger wave boards and even if they quite often turn surprisingly good, many times I feel that they 'just' add size (to me, at my weight and level of sailing, that is) and not that much of a performance improvement as you could perhaps expect from going up 20-25 litre in size. I feel that the 105-110 litre+ proper wave boards are many times aimed at sailors over 90 kgs or so in weight, rather than giving 75-85 kg sailors more light wind performance. The one thing that can change this conclusion is if you have access to spots that allow proper ground swell sailing in very light, but fairly stable, winds. Then, I could easily see myself falling in love with a compact 120 litre quad/twin all the way up to 68-70 in width.
I am 79-80 kilos and fairly good at staying off the pie diet. I predominantly sail in the Nordics and Europe (Ireland, Portugal).
Thnks all for your replies the 2 different styles options c10 litres apart sounds very much what I think I will go for
