Hi everyone,
I need your help regarding the SEVERNE PYRO 99Litres.
I weigh 90 kg and I want a board for gusty ligght wind conditions, in challenging conditions and in light, stormy conditions. Basically, for 4.7m. For this, I need a board that planes quickly and surfs well.
I had a 2017 Severne NUEVO in twin fin set up, and I was very happy with it. IHowever, in order to upgrade, I decided to sell the board and buy the 2025 PYRO evolution. I tried or test the PYRO 99L one day in strong winds and 4.7m and it went quite well, stable and tight, with good control; I liked it. But I didn't try it in challenging or light winds.
Now I have the Severne PYRO 99L in twin fin, just like the previous NUEVO one, but as I said, it doesn't plane as quickly as I expected. I moved the base forward a little (4mm) and the twin fins back a bit and improved very slightly, But I do not find what I am looking for. it's not planing as well as I need. One option is a thruster-tri fin setup, but that wasn't the idea.
According to a friend, the 2017 Severne (NUEVO model) was an unbeatable surfboard with excellent planing in light winds, and the Pyro is a good board, but not the best for light winds. In other words, no matter all changes I would made, I'm not going to achieve Hig planning, by making changes.
Can you please share your comments or experience? What can I do? much appreciated
Thank you very much!!!
Hi, no experience with twins but i wonder if switching to a thruster setup would help? Less draggy
On my 85l dyno i use 10 fronts and a 20.5 rear for lighter days (5.3) and switch to 12.5/18 for windier conditions (down to 4.2). Makes a noticeable difference for early planing and riding
Also you could try moving your footstraps forward
Which size do your twin fins have?
I use 17cm K4 Stubby Twins for my Goya Quad 104 in light+small or onshore conditions.
Compared to the stock 16cm MFC Quad setup i feel a differnece in planing and upwind.
That said you need to ride the twins bigger than your Quad rears to get more planung power from your setup.
The Pyro shape should be a early planing shape, riding "bigger", which is what i heard / read about it.
Select to expand quoteAlexF said..
Which size do your twin fins have?
I use 17cm K4 Stubby Twins for my Goya Quad 104 in light+small or onshore conditions.
Compared to the stock 16cm MFC Quad setup i feel a differnece in planing and upwind.
That said you need to ride the twins bigger than your Quad rears to get more planung power from your setup.
The Pyro shape should be a early planing shape, riding "bigger", which is what i heard / read about it.
thank you very much AlexF. I have 17 cm Severne NYC for twins, these are the recomendad ones. I believe this is not the problem. Thank you for your help and information.
Select to expand quoteAI.Dave said..
Hi, no experience with twins but i wonder if switching to a thruster setup would help? Less draggy
On my 85l dyno i use 10 fronts and a 20.5 rear for lighter days (5.3) and switch to 12.5/18 for windier conditions (down to 4.2). Makes a noticeable difference for early planing and riding
Also you could try moving your footstraps forward
thank yoi AI Dave. I will try thurster tri fin. But it should work with twins. I do not know. Let's see.
Thank you for your time
I'm 90-95kegs and have the 99V2 Pyro as my light winder, general blasting board up to 20knts. I've ridden the Pyros since the first release and have an 87 as my all-rounder from 4.0-5.3.
The Pyros like being well powered to the point of performing at their best when being over powered. I wouldn't say they are a great float and ride boards as they are pretty short, perfectly capable but simply put, I don't like the 99 under 5.3. When I use it with 5.0, it's a bit funky even when powered. It seems best 5.3+5.7 and the board would probably handle a 6.2 or bigger. My gut feeling is go bigger with your sail and fins, the board will handle, and like, a hell of a lot more drive than from a 4.7 in light winds lugging 90kgs around. If it's big and offshore, the setup will be a different story.
I mostly run a set of 17cm as a twin as it gets up and goes well when it's 10-15knts, light bump+ jump with a 5.7. Set up is 15cm rears+9cm fronts when there's waves over head. Never been able to get the board to feel right as a thruster but it's me, love twins and quads and can't be ass'd with thrusters. Lots of crew set up as a thruster and go really well. I hear PK runs 20+ &11-12cms as a thruster.
Hope this helps.
Select to expand quoteBrent in Qld said..
I'm 90-95kegs and have the 99V2 Pyro as my light winder, general blasting board up to 20knts. I've ridden the Pyros since the first release and have an 87 as my all-rounder from 4.0-5.3.
The Pyros like being well powered to the point of performing at their best when being over powered. I wouldn't say they are a great float and ride boards as they are pretty short, perfectly capable but simply put, I don't like the 99 under 5.3. When I use it with 5.0, it's a bit funky even when powered. It seems best 5.3+5.7 and the board would probably handle a 6.2 or bigger. My gut feeling is go bigger with your sail and fins, the board will handle, and like, a hell of a lot more drive than from a 4.7 in light winds lugging 90kgs around. If it's big and offshore, the setup will be a different story.
I mostly run a set of 17cm as a twin as it gets up and goes well when it's 10-15knts, light bump+ jump with a 5.7. Set up is 15cm rears+9cm fronts when there's waves over head. Never been able to get the board to feel right as a thruster but it's me, love twins and quads and can't be ass'd with thrusters. Lots of crew set up as a thruster and go really well. I hear PK runs 20+ &11-12cms as a thruster.
Hope
Thank you very much, I take your point that the board is compact and feels short and that it sails very well overpowered. My initial idea was to have a lot of flotation and speed for bad and light wind, and to be able to use a sail smaller than a 5.3, meaning a 4.7, and why not a 4.2. I see now that it doesn't work out that way. Just the other day, I was sailing strongly with a 4.2 and didn't need to change due to over-floatation (or being overpowered). The board held up.
a question: The board is sold with quad fins. Do you think they are faster than twin fin setup in this case?
thank for your time
Set up as a twin the Pyros are definitely quicker and a bit earlier to plane as there's less drag. Better for staying on the plane, good jumps, getting into position for the wave, nice tails slides and blow outs etc... great at carrying the speed for setting up for that one sweet manoeuvre on a wave.
It's not all good though. They don't go as well up wind, can stiffen up in bottom turns and cut backs can be underwhelming, you need to concentrate way more on a wave to get the most out of them as a twin, fun but generally a bit slippery and harder work. Most of the negatives are solved with a quad setup, the board will be more settled and slower but that is still damn quick compared to most run of the mill wave boards.
Where the boards really surprised me as a twin is in windy dead onshore, better than a quad I think. Sail overpowered with the back strap in the rear position and they carry great speed to drive really well back and forth going from backside to clew first turns.
Try running the board with a thruster or quad setup, start with the mast based in the middle of the box and go from there. I currently have a Pryo 113. The twin setup is ok if you want a "skatey" feeling board but in my opinion it's no good for anything else. I tried the thruster setup but didn't like the lack of upwind ability unless you run a big center fin.
I think the mast position is fairly important on this board. I tried all the way to the font, middle and all the way to the back. And then worked from there. In the end I found the middle worked best regardless of sail size... I now have the spot marked with permanent marker and set and forget.
Select to expand quoteBrent in Qld said..
Set up as a twin the Pyros are definitely quicker and a bit earlier to plane as there's less drag. Better for staying on the plane, good jumps, getting into position for the wave, nice tails slides and blow outs etc... great at carrying the speed for setting up for that one sweet manoeuvre on a wave.
It's not all good though. They don't go as well up wind, can stiffen up in bottom turns and cut backs can be underwhelming, you need to concentrate way more on a wave to get the most out of them as a twin, fun but generally a bit slippery and harder work. Most of the negatives are solved with a quad setup, the board will be more settled and slower but that is still damn quick compared to most run of the mill wave boards.
Where the boards really surprised me as a twin is in windy dead onshore, better than a quad I think. Sail veryoverpowered with the back strap in the rear position and they carry great speed to drive really well back and forth going from backside to clew first turns.
thank you very much!!! I realize that you are pointing that twins to be quicker. I will try different setups.
If a go to quads I need to buy new fins, hopefully not.
Thank you
Select to expand quotestehsegler said..
Try running the board with a thruster or quad setup, start with the mast based in the middle of the box and go from there. I currently have a Pryo 113. The twin setup is ok if you want a "skatey" feeling board but in my opinion it's no good for anything else. I tried the thruster setup but didn't like the lack of upwind ability unless you run a big center fin.
I think the mast position is fairly important on this board. I tried all the way to the font, middle and all the way to the back. And then worked from there. In the end I found the middle worked best regardless of sail size... I now have the spot marked with permanent marker and set and forget.
Hi Sir, another good point. I tried last time moving the base to the front a little bit. I have the base just in the middle. I noticed a little more power. I will try a little bit more and so on.
I will try different settings.
Thank you for your advice!!
No Pyro experience but I found with the Nuevo and Nano moving the rear strap forward in gusty or underpowered scenarios made a huge difference, somtimes just sailing with the back foot in front of the straps until I got on the wave. I also found the Nuevo better with a shorter base (Cord length?) and thinner whereas the nano I preferred longer base fin. I found with the Nano that running as a twin I had to have the mast track all the way forward, when as a quad I had it in the middle even with 8cm fronts.
Select to expand quoteCrazyWaves said..
No Pyro experience but I found with the Nuevo and Nano moving the rear strap forward in gusty or underpowered scenarios made a huge difference, somtimes just sailing with the back foot in front of the straps until I got on the wave. I also found the Nuevo better with a shorter base (Cord length?) and thinner whereas the nano I preferred longer base fin. I found with the Nano that running as a twin I had to have the mast track all the way forward, when as a quad I had it in the middle even with 8cm fronts.
thank you very much! I get your point of moving the rear footstrap forward. However, my problem is the starting point of planning that I feel very slow.
Although I will also try this footstrap setting I believe is something related to the fins.
Thanks for your comment!!
