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Naish All Terrain Boards Vs Exocet Cross

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Created by wormy > 9 months ago, 29 Jun 2008
wormy
QLD, 679 posts
29 Jun 2008 9:18PM
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Anyone rode/own one, comments on each and conditions sailed please?
From what I read sounds like a starboard combat. Which I have, I love the combat but want to get away from a US fin box. Thinking of going down a size to 95l range.
Any respone welcome

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
29 Jun 2008 9:58PM
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Exocet
www.windsurfingmag.com

Naish
windsurfingmag.com/article.jsp?ID=1000053558

Paul
WA, 346 posts
29 Jun 2008 10:58PM
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Hey wormy, I have ridden the cross in the 95, 85 and 102 sizes. the positives as they appeared to me are:
The exocet cross seems more composed in straight line blasting from flat to rough chop conditions. You can push and push in rough stuff and as the board absorbs the bounce rather than transfer it to you, you feel secure at all times. The board feels safe rather than lively but is definatley fast. Running against a rider on an s-type with similar ability to myself the cross lost no ground when ridden by both of us.
The real selling point of the exocet cross is the gybe ability. It goes around so well you feel in total control at all times regardless of water conditions. The cross's don't feel as wavey or throw about as other boards although turning well, I feel they are more suited to turn and burn sailing in anything from flat to seriously rough water.

The ride to some will feel dull or less direct compared with other boards especially when comparing back to back or agianst wood / carbon boards. But if ridden on it's own and for a few days it becomes like a comfy jumper - safe secure and dependable. They are not everything to all sailors but well worth the consideration.
hope this helps.

stehsegler
WA, 3543 posts
6 Jul 2008 3:21PM
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Have you considered a JP?

I have had a number of 92 FSWs over the past few years. I currently sail a 92 Pro edition FSW and really love the board. It's equipped with a power box so no US fin anywhere in sight.

The board itself has a pretty big range. You can use it as a fast slalom/ free ride alternative with the straps mounted on the out side and a double strap at the back or use it as a light wind wave board with the straps more to the middle and a single strap at the back.

The only thing I would recommend with this board is to invest in a couple of good fins. You would do good with a 27/ 28cm Freeride fin and perhaps a 26 cm wave fin.

With the new boards just around the corner you might be able to pick up a good deal on an 2008 version. Another nice thing about the 92 FSWs is that they are pretty popular boards and generally retain their resell value better than the other boards listed here.

wormy
QLD, 679 posts
6 Jul 2008 6:46PM
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I'll consider most things if the price is right and it's the style of board I am looking for. I'm certainly checking all the dealers for run out specials and the JP's FSW are on the list but I might be moving to NSW in the near future, so I might have to go Formula yet.
All descisions are pending future work arrangments at this stage, but if I find a bargain I might not be able to resist,( It has to blow some time in NSW)

stehsegler
WA, 3543 posts
7 Jul 2008 7:42AM
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wormy said...
I'm certainly checking all the dealers for run out specials and the JP's FSW are on the list but I might be moving to NSW in the near future, so I might have to go Formula yet.
All descisions are pending future work arrangments at this stage, but if I find a bargain I might not be able to resist,( It has to blow some time in NSW)


If you move to NSW and you are around Sydney make sure you pop in at Windsurf and Snow. They generally will be able to make you a good deal on run out models. They also have a good selection of ex demos and pre-loved boards they will generally sell at a good price.

Oh, and don't worry. There is plenty enough wind here in summer especially if you can make the trek down to Gerroa. Also, the winter winds are already in full swing... there is Birubi and Anna Bay for those Westerly to Northwesterly days and Botany Bay when the Southwesters kick in.

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
7 Jul 2008 2:04PM
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I have a cross117 and it performs as described by Paul (frm WA) it does however transform to a real slashy board with a fin upgrade - The upgrade fin I have is a Wardog 10" freeweed

The transformation is amazing, the board is amazingly lose without spinining out. Great for b&J in heavy chop conditions and probably wave riding. current exchange rates makes it a viable proposition.

I have thought about the Naish All Terrain on occasions for a 95l board (Kombat replacement), but lack of feedback from other users makes it a hard choice.

I also have a Kombat 95 and share your pain regarding the fin - I havn't had much opportunity to ride it last summer due to the lack of wind coinciding with my sailing availability - I have used this fin (30cm) though as a good permance upgarde with lighter conditions with my 5.5/6.3 sail.
www.windshack.com/products.php?cat=windsurfing&scat=4&id=63

I probably won't upgrade the Kombat just yet, as the amount of time I have it on the water dosn't justify replacement - but if I did I would seriously consider a smaller cross with a slashy fin.

Try asking Al Green at Caloundra City Sailboards for his opinion as he sells both the Cross and Naish.

Cheers
www.caloundracitysailboards.com.au/

wormy
QLD, 679 posts
7 Jul 2008 4:56PM
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Thats the exact same fin I am using in my kombat 105 and I do agree its pretty good, It's more the box I have concerns about as there is a lot of exposed box either side of the fin and I am sure that this will retain air and assist in slide out, also us box seems to always have a little bit of slop no matter what fin I use.
I also get most of my gear fro Al at Coloundra.
I think we are prety much on the same wavelength.

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
7 Jul 2008 8:27PM
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wormy said...

Thats the exact same fin I am using in my kombat 105 and I do agree its pretty good, It's more the box I have concerns about as there is a lot of exposed box either side of the fin and I am sure that this will retain air and assist in slide out, also us box seems to always have a little bit of slop no matter what fin I use.
I also get most of my gear fro Al at Coloundra.
I think we are prety much on the same wavelength.


Yeah - I actually meant to type
"I share your pain regaring the fin BOX"
Great board shame about the box - mmmm..... reminds me of another saying

The Windsurfing Shed
NSW, 294 posts
8 Jul 2008 6:58PM
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Hi Wormy,

The Cross II is a very versatile board, the smaller volumes (84 and 94) can be used in waves as well.

This is the perfect board for the Southerly winds in Sydney. It will give you the confidence needed to ride over the chop. Compared to the Cross I (I believe DavMen has the previous model) it is stiffer/faster, riding higher on the water.

Adding the DDSA (Double Density Shock Absorber) pads, this is ze most confortable board...

If you end up moving to NSW, let us know, we have the 84L as a demo board.

You will find a lot of feedback on that particular board on the Exocet forum:
www.exocet-original.com/

Cheers,
Remi
www/thewindsurfingshed.com.au

wormy
QLD, 679 posts
8 Jul 2008 9:23PM
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Thanks Remi, is the cross II the pro model or is there an updated version as I can only find the 'CROSS' and the'CROSS PRO MODEL' on the exocet web site, and what sort of price difference between the two models. I don't think I can justify myself riding a 'promodel" board unless it is going last a lot longer.

The Windsurfing Shed
NSW, 294 posts
8 Jul 2008 10:27PM
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What I called Cross II is indeed the CROSS you can find here:
http://www.exocet-original.com/products/cross.asp

You can find prices for the Cross here:
thewindsurfingshed.com.au/cross

The Pro Model being lighter and stiffer will offer a faster ride and feel effortless in the chop/waves. Price difference will be just over $500.

Give me a call or send me an email for Pro Model prices and availability.

Cheers,
Remi
www.thewindsurfingshed.com.au



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