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Large sail (>8) and cams

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Created by alexg > 9 months ago, 9 May 2007
alexg
ACT, 10 posts
9 May 2007 11:41AM
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Hi, I am wondering - how essential is to have cams on big sails (bigger than 8m) ? I saw few freerace that do not have them.

Pugwash
WA, 7721 posts
9 May 2007 12:17PM
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This is a tough one...

I have read that no-cam sails will plane earlier than cammed sails because they are more flexible/less rigid and enable air/wind flow...

2 cam vs 4 cam... Generally, modern race sails are wide luff and have around 4 cams... more flat water orientated freerace sails have around 2 cams... On a lot of manufacturers websites, you will see they claim the 2 cam sails plane earlier, perhaps this also has something to do with flexibility/rigidity of the sail...

The general rule for cammed sails: more cams = more rigid rig = more stability = more top end speed.

My rule for wide luff race sails: don't drop them in the water

alexg
ACT, 10 posts
9 May 2007 4:22PM
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Hmmm practically I had discussion about how big sail would work on the lake where lulls and gusts are come together. Most friends said that they are not going for more than 8m unless they are not more than 90kg of weight and particularly never use big sail without cams in such conditions. Is it right?

Gybesports
NSW, 193 posts
22 Jun 2007 7:40PM
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In general I thnk cams are good for 8m plus because firstly you don't have the same pressure in preplaning conditions to push the draft back away from the mast to create the early planing deep draft needed. Cams lock that draft in place and help the sail build momentum before the apparent wind speed picks up. In addition they are more stable creating less dragin gusty conditions helping you to stay on the plane in the lulls

aus005
TAS, 514 posts
22 Jun 2007 11:47PM
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i recon do not buy a sail bigger than 7m without at least 2 cams to hold its profile

qldsalty
QLD, 299 posts
24 Jun 2007 10:59PM
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Cams on big sails are definately the go. In the past they met a lot of resistance due to the difficulty in rigging them. Today the 4 cams Like Neil Pryde RS6 are easier than no cams. The mast goes nearlly all the way up the luff before meeting any pressure from the narrowing of the luff pocket. On the water the cammed sails are far superior and have a more controlled feel. The only time they are a bit of a negitive is in really light wind after gybing there may not be enough pressure from the wind to pop the sail. AS soon as you have moderate power this problem dissappeares. They are also faster

ducati
QLD, 474 posts
25 Jun 2007 6:13PM
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IMHO Definately try camless Sailworks Retros 7.5 and 9.0 great bottom end much much easier gybing waterstarting easily just as quick in 8-18kn range made me wonder why I ever bothered with all the cambered BS unless your chasing every last ****teenth of speed, maybe not quite that locked in feel going upwind, but for B&Forth type recreational sailing ya can't beatem.



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