Hi all
So looking to update my antique kit selection having moved to Perth permanently and aiming to get much more water time. Currently have a Mistral Score 78, a 2005 Goya FW 85 and a AHD Kauli Seadi 68. Predominately Ezzy Wave SE's of various sizes and a couple of NP's, all about the same vintage as the boards! Trying to prioritize what I upgrade when and to what a little as it's quite a costly exercise given the amount of updating required! Wondering if I could get any pointers?
I'm light, 67-71 kgs and looking for 1-2 boards (thinking I'll hang onto the AHD as it's really nice in the waves and for when it gets honking... Looking for a board that's comfortable in bump and jump but also looking to advance my wave sailing. Heard good things about the Goya Custom Quads, leaning towards the 78 or 72 given my weight as windy board choice, maybe 78 is a bit more versatile and can always plug honking days with the smaller AHD? Read some really good things about the Goya 104 Quad, potential as a light wind option (lesser priority for the time being).
Sails, read good things about the Severne Blades? I enjoyed my Ezzy's a lot for their bomb proof construction and how they handled wind increases without becoming hard to manage. Severnes sound well made and quite light feeling which would be a plus. I'd likely be looking at 2014-2015 kit depending on what used/demo/discount options I can find.
If anyone else has any suggestions based on the above please chip in. I know I should try the kit out but not always easy... In terms of updating thinking to try and get some sail upgrades in first and then sort out the smaller board and the larger board last...
Cheers
I sailed ezzy wave sails back in early 2001. I agree they are very strong. I upgraded to blades in 2008. Very impressive. Massive range. I ran a gorilla mast. Nice set up. Particularly easy to control in jumps.
I then bought a 100% carbon enigma boom in 2014. Wow. Makes a massive difference in swing weight.
I just upgraded my blade to a 2016 blade pro with 100% carbon mast. It's so light and has an even larger range. Very easy to manoeuvre.
I am 75 kg and use a Goya quad 118 for light wind days. It's lovely. But I wish I bought the 104
I think any board over 100 litres will be way too big. Given your weight I would think anything 85-92 litres would be adequate especially since it's
consistent & strong wind in WA. See if you can demo from one of the shops.
Recommend RDM mast for wave sails and definitely mast match for sail for better rigging & range. Just search mast compatability and check the chart.
On the east coast we have wildly varying conditions so a lot of the wave sailors (who can) have a dedicated wave board & a larger all rounder.
I would go for an Ezzy RDM mast if you are buying sails compatible with these. My understanding is that the warranty applies in surf and will back product 100%.
Ezzy Taka 2 (3 batten) or Ezzy Elite (4 batten) are excellent sails. Kevin Pritchard uses these and wins much of what he enters. Graham Ezzy in last years Aloha Classic was outstanding if you watched his heats on these sails.I haven't followed this years event...
I have a mix of Ezzy Elite 2014 and Goya Banzai 2014. Ezzy and Goya sails work on Ezzy masts. I like them both.
Severne are good and look good (have the look of Scuderia Ferrari and Alfa Corse) Ben is a great designer too. I did hear of Severne masts breaking in 2014 Aloha, unless I am mistaken but not Ezzy... In my view Ezzy are a great sail too, top materials, design... It is not a proper frame of reference to use 2001 Ezzy as a point of reference as some have chosen to do so. Ultimately most of modern sails are good and it is personal preference.I get the impression Severne focus on light construction more than other sailmakers...
At your weight (67-71kg) I would go for an 84 litre board and that should be fine. Almost 15 litres above your weight should have you covered. Goya or Quatro have excellent board choices in these sizes.
Thanks for the advice. I'm still quite partial to Ezzy given my previous experiences with the SE's however they seem to be quite rare on the second hand market. Any other Severne owners out there who can offer some advice, or Goya quad-ers? I read that the Severnes were actually really well constructed, is this not the case in the quest for light weight?
I'll definitely be looking to upgrade my boom and masts though some way down the pecking order...
The thinking was either 78 or 84 (leaning more towards the 78 given my weight and windiness in Perth) and then another low wind board, around the 100l mark just so I can get out on the iffy days too (given these have an uncanny habit of hitting weekends!).
I have not sailed the goya quads but have likewise heard very good reviews. I am about your weight maybe a touch lighter and have a sb 74l quad as my go to any time there are waves. when it gets really marginal I have fanatic triwave 88l. great board as well and it can handle quite a bit of wind but honestly its just too big for guys our size when things get good.. in your place i would consider what boards you use most and work from there, if that 68l is your go to board i would not buy anything bigger than the 72/78 as the smaller board if you are looking at a 2 board set up with 85-90l ish as the bigger one. if you want to go for a 1 board than do the 78/84l. ideally try to ride the 72/78/84 and see how they feel for you. either way I doubt that you will ride your ahd board much unless the whole multi-fin feel really doesn't do it for for you. the 78l is likely to be the perfect board for you i think, just enough volume to float and ride with a 5m when waves have some push but not much wind and will behave even when nuking.. final note, unless you consistently get really small mushy waves with marginal wind and only want to make the most of those days/ care much less about the bump and jump days than look carefully at a fw board as your bigger size and have the 78 as a dedicated wave board
my 2c!
Thanks Windz, think you've nailed what I was coming around to thinking based on my internet ferreting! See if I can try 72 or 78 l board in the near future and take it from there.
Cheers
I had the Goya Quads in 84 and 104 - awesome boards with a big range. I am about 84kgs. I agree with Wiindz - great combo for you would be 72/90 in the Quads or 78 as more of a one board solution, if it gets crazy you can bring out AHD but 78 would be the go to board. Most quads can be ridden bigger than single fin boards but the 104 will be huge for you. You will not be disappointed with the Goya Quads.
As for the Severne sails, I have been using the Blades for a few years and there is not a bad word that can be said about them. I know Ezzy have a good reputation for build, but my Blades have been treated with total disrespect and spent more than their fair share of time in the Scarborough rinse cycle and the only damage is a tear to the mast sleeve when a mast broke. So I can not fault the build quality or quality of materials on the Blade. They are exceptional sails.
If you have not updated your gear for a quite a few years, you are going to love pretty much any of the kit out there these days! Range, build, weight etc... are amazing. A lot of great feedback on RRD sails these days so that may be something to look at too..
The boards have got to be priority surely ..... they will give you a massive jump in range / fun / performance and curiousity over singlefin , more so than upgrading a few sails .... then I would upgrade to a good light (blade) 5.3 and good mast - thats prob the next big jump in performance over yr old quiver - that lightness now poss in rigs 5.2 and greater .... then do the smaller sizes last
the 90 will be indispensible for all them bad days (im 74kgs and ride a 98 rockered quad ALOT so dont be frightened to think big - 90 should be plenty though ) .... thinking of el nino this summer there could be alot of marginal days .... the 90 will help , this should be equal priority imo , maybe hold of sails until 2 board quiver done ...
thinking about it - 78/90 would be killer and my choice - you can rig a smaller sail on the 78 for more jumping sail handling control (ie go rig 3.7/78 , rather than 4.2/72 etc ) , there would be less of a huge seperation in volumes , meaning 78 would be yr go-to (bit of reserve float over 72 if wind not perfect ) , if you go 72 maybe you will find yourself maybe ? riding the 90 too much until its 'perfect wind to inside' for the 72 ....
After sailing quads , dont think you will ever want to jump back on a small 68 ltr singlefin , a goya 78 will have waaaay more range , looseness , control and manners .. fun !!!
Thanks all, some really helpful advice. I shall now keep my eyes peeled on second hand kit that fits the bill. Very excited after a great weekend at Lancelin on the old kit,imagining what it will be like on the new kit! ![]()
I have the 78 and 94 goya quads ,im 75 kg and agree the 94 is plenty big enough and works great as a twin the 78 has great range , the new ezzy taka 2 are great and have a huge range especially bottom end , the elites are a good choice if you sail onshore most of the time .
Disagreeing on the Goya quads. A little slow to plane and are at there best in real waves, so Perth onshore and small may not be their forte. I think you want a little faster for Perth
It has taken me ages to get used to mine, now I can make it turn well but the draggy slow to plane feeling is so annoying.
I found the (supposedly very similar) Quatro Cube earlier to plane than the Goya and just as loose with plenty of drive in turns.
Can't go wrong with RRD wavecult quad (early planer compared to most) or Fanatic quad that seems to be right up there for most people.
OTOH I repaired a Goya and the construction is top notch.
Mark
Definately agree re the Rrd got as my big wave board is a cracker
I am looking update my smaller board c80 to 84 max was thinking of the Goya Quad when you say they are slow to plane is that the 2015 or 2016 as people seem feel the new shape is quicker and sharper all round
Dan I am talking 14 and 15 models. Also it is a feeling thing so don't be dissuaded by my ramblings - I just don't think it is the best Perth board.
Seabreezer, yes double sandwich deck and really solid laminate it took about 3x longer to grind out a smashed area than on many boards. Some the dremel touches it and you hit styro in 0.2sec.......
Well I got impatient, and went and got a Simmer Quantum 75 (2014) to tide me other, all I need now is a chance to try it out. Figured if I didn't like it can always sell it....not huge amounts of info on it but seems more suited to wind waves/slightly less ideal conditions so figured could be a good board for Perth. All I need now are some newer sails...masts....boom.........cripes
I had the 85 Quatum one of the fastest planning boards that I ever rode it did seam to be on the high side of 85 lit.. The construction was ok had to be careful about mast slams as the deck dented easily.