any lucky person had the chance to try out both these sexy boards?
which do you prefer? what are the characteristics of each?
Mistral seems to be shorter and fatter with most of the volume further forward than the JP? Someone please enlighten me as I don't know which one I'll want
I won't get into a what's best arguement but the guys I have spoken with have been impressed both boards.
I have had another great session on the mistral 84 with 5.3 in about 15 knots. Forget the shape on the floor in the shop as once you are on the water the board behaves very well. If you are used to short wave boards like the evo style stubbies then the Mistral will be no problem. It as an easy, fast board to ride and turns exactly as advertised. If riding waves is your first priority and not chop bothering then you will like the mistral. My ability is the only barrier to better performance and the board is capable of so much more than I can do with it.
cheers
Paul
If you read the Boards elctronic example copies you can get a look at three double pages for free - looked at the conclusions on the twinnies yeaterday and they said they weren't convinced they would buy one compared to a stubby wave board - unless you were sailing good waves very regulary - and there was alot of variation between brands.
Sounded like the RRD was a bit more all round than most- they were all under 80 litres - not that relevant to the greater % of population I'd say - but I may have miss read it.
Made it even more confusing for me.
Sailed a modern twin for first time sunday.. First time ive ridden an 85l board that rides like a 70....
Would i swap my 85l single for a 85 twin... Without doubt....
Ive got a mistral on test next week.. Il keep an update...
G'Day Mike
There is another good test report on boardseeker.com for you to have a look at
Seems the general conclusion is that the larger the waveboard, the bigger the benefit derived from the twinsers
I disagree with the Boards findings, ie that you have to be a guru to make a twinser worth owning, I am far from that but when I demoed the mistral in Maui this year I was blown away how much easier it made the proper top to bottom waveriding.
I'm a lardy 92 kgs and bought the Mistral 92 and have used it both in waves and flat water with 4.7 - 6.2 Naish forces and the board just deals with everything. Ability to turn on a rail is amazing, even on flat water.
It does lack a little speed/pop compared with something like a freewave, but I have the Fanatic FW86, ostensibly to use on b'n'j days, and am thinking of selling it because the twinser handles those conditions better than I expected.
Hi Timbo,
I'm about 92-93kg and I've just bought the Twinser 84. I'm really happy with it, and it goes surprisingly well even in light winds over here in WA. 84l is plenty of float for me, so I guess that the 92 is almost positive buoyancy for you? Are you getting out in some really light winds on it? I guess you'd hardly ever end up forcing the nose underwater? (This can happen with the 84 when it's pretty light).
Cheers, Jens
Hi Jens
I'm on the east coast so needed a board to take my 6.2 force, hence the 92.
The 92 is pretty much the same length as the 84 so the nose sinking issue is about the same, it happened once when I first got on the board, but once aware of it have had no issues. 92 is almost positive buoyancy, but have never felt that the board is too big.
Must admit that all the material i read said that the twinzers was that they were a little slower to plane, hence why I went the bigger size, but haven't really experienced this on the water, so am considering the smaller size for next year.
The 92 is absolutely sensational, if the 84 is a touch more turny it must be amazing.
can't speak for the Mistral Twinzer but the JP twin 84 is definitely not a late planning board. My guess is actually with the JPs it's mostly in the shape. If you compare them to the RWW they are not that different. The Twin 84 is narrower towards the back which I think gives it a bit more top end speed than the RWW82.
Also, I my guess is the 84 JP twin is probably more in the 86 l region. I am 110kg and managed to get it going in about 20knts with a 5.4. I sailed the 82 RWW that day in comparison and it definitely wasn't as floaty.
For anyone on the East Coast/ Sydney region. Windsurf and Snow have an 84 and I think 76 twin on test.
Hi Guys,
I agree I haven't found any issues at all with early planing with the Mistral 84. I've moved down from the Evo 92, and I reckon they plane at the same rate. I almost never notice the volume decrease in a negative way, but love the way this board responds on the wave. It's Viagra for wavesailing I reckon! As for bump and jump, well the Twinnie is OK at this too, but I reckon it would be hard to argue that it is better than a single fin at this. It's really in the waves were the advantages become really obvious.
Cheers, Jens
