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JP Twinser 84 v 76

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Created by garyk > 9 months ago, 12 Feb 2009
garyk
QLD, 277 posts
12 Feb 2009 10:59AM
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The guys at SURF FX have been kind enough for me to demo the 76 and compare it to my 84. will be interesting to see the difference. below are some photo's





taken at the bin on the 84, it greatly exceeds ALL expectations in down the line wave riding.




photography by Gestalt.

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
12 Feb 2009 10:34AM
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Great Photo's there Gesty Looks sweet.

What happened after photo 3

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
12 Feb 2009 7:01PM
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Unfortunitly conditions were on the small side today so have yet to try the 76.

The 84 is an awesome board, its by far the most radical 84L waveboard Iv ridin
to date. Its super forgiving and will just do what you want it to do, super tight
turns on any section, very fast and comfortable on hollow waves giving high levels
of confordence for big moves. Has ALOT of grip so you can push really hard in turns
with no bouncing at all giving you amazing control!!!!!! The windward performance is comparable to other 85L waveboards, On flat water the 84 performs well tracking
in a good manner being very fast off the wind over chop with superb jibing making
for easy work on short runs. Its quite floaty with most of the volume being centre and slighty forward giving you more area up front to smack broken water. With a very fine tale it feel like you are riding a much smaller board. Im really stoked to be riding kauli's babies he has an awesome reputation for designing windsurfing equipment that WORKS!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Kauli you have revolutionized wavesailing.

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
13 Feb 2009 9:03AM
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check out vidios on www.Kauliseadi.com.br/

Rad Lad
226 posts
13 Feb 2009 10:23AM
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Kauli doesn't ride a JP nor does JP, they ride Quatros. Sorry to dissapoint you but these are the facts.

WINDSURFnSNOW
NSW, 1613 posts
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13 Feb 2009 1:00PM
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Fair call but the boards ridden by those guys will always be customs to help develop the better production boards for us the consumer.

The current JP Twinser production boards are however ridden by the current OZ champ.

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
13 Feb 2009 12:47PM
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Kauli is currently riding boards around 210cm with quad fin setup it will be interesting to see where this goes.

stehsegler
WA, 3543 posts
13 Feb 2009 12:50PM
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Either way... the JP Twinser 84 is an awesome board.

Everyone I know that has tried them just seems to love the boards... I think the better point is that Werner Gnigler is one of the better designers of production windsurf boards.

First it was the Freestyle Waves then the Real World Waves... now the Twinser. Don't know many people that fault these boards.

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
13 Feb 2009 2:46PM
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Agree stehsegler. Werner has for many years work very closely with the all time Greats of windsurfing and produces by far the best line of production boards for all disiplines. For many years iv riden boards of all kinds and they all have boundries and limitations and most require perfect tecnique for them to work. Whereas the jp boards slalom to wave jump on and go you instantly feel comfortable and confident with lots of control giving you that fun factor. Thinking what to do next not how to do it there just awesome.

Al McLeod
VIC, 633 posts
13 Feb 2009 5:52PM
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Rad Lad said...

Kauli doesn't ride a JP nor does JP, they ride Quatros. Sorry to dissapoint you but these are the facts.


that's not really true. jason rides some quatros, when i was talking to him in maui he was on a richard greene shape - who shapes the pro wave line. from what i've heard he has a whole range of boards from different shapers.

stehsegler
WA, 3543 posts
13 Feb 2009 4:49PM
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I don't want to drag down those Richard Green shapes but in my humble opinion they only work for people up to around 80-85kgs.

If you are heavier than that look at the RWW or Twinser range... that's if you want a JP. I am fully aware that almost all pros use custom wave boards. However, unless you can afford to buy them because this is actually your job I think getting a JP or even a Starboard production board is the next best thing.

What I am really hoping now is that Albeau is working with Werner to make a light wind JP wave board for heavy weights... you know... the sort of thing he did over at Starboard with the Evo XL...

Leech
WA, 1933 posts
13 Feb 2009 5:41PM
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I really like those pics!

Great how there's no sun glare on the water in the afternoon!

In WA it's very hard to get good shots like those.

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
15 Feb 2009 1:55PM
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Gestalt on the day took some great photos for his first attempt at shooting us in the surf. Great job mate im sure many appreciate the work you put in

couple more



Upthere
QLD, 348 posts
15 Feb 2009 2:50PM
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I would agree with elmo the shot of you doing the air does look pretty rad, but what really happened after that shot.

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
15 Feb 2009 3:03PM
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ATE IT..... the wind that day was dead side and only 10 to 20 very gusty. Most of the speed was generated by surfing the waves.

Upthere
QLD, 348 posts
15 Feb 2009 3:07PM
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ha sounds sick. How does your Fly feel and what size is it

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
15 Feb 2009 4:16PM
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On that day 5.4m very marginal conditions. I'm very happy with my NP Fly's they are nice sails complements and help's bring out the potential of the Twinser. It has lots of power to keep the Twinser very mobile. More of a constant pull than a combat or zone making it more forgiving to bad tecnique. They have a rather big wind range top and bottom for a wave sail. They rotate very nicely and built strong but remain very lite. They have a softer feel so they pump well and react well to changing wind strengths and angles associated with wavesailing. My advise is look at the neilpryde/fly page and kauli show's how to tune this sail. Im not sure how to put the link on here.

Upthere
QLD, 348 posts
15 Feb 2009 4:27PM
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what sort of mast are you using on it

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
15 Feb 2009 4:29PM
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NP combat rdm 400

Upthere
QLD, 348 posts
15 Feb 2009 4:33PM
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How do reckon a powerex rdm 85% would go in it

garyk
QLD, 277 posts
15 Feb 2009 4:53PM
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It will work but its never going to be as good as the right mast. I used a powerex std 55% in mine for a while there and the sail dident rig that good. Glad to have the NP Combat, rigs and handles much better. It goes for any sail you must have the right mast for it to work 100%.

Upthere
QLD, 348 posts
15 Feb 2009 5:22PM
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Cheers thanks for your help Gary

SmellySkater
110 posts
16 Feb 2009 11:41PM
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Do you think the twinzer would be any good in less than ideal conditions? Also if it's just bump and jump stuff would it still be fun to blast around on?

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
17 Feb 2009 2:07AM
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i rode the 76 in rough 30 knots onshore head high waves recently. I would have much prefered a single for that session.
However at margies the 76 was unreal on the waves ( solid logo), i just found i was a bit under cooked and had trouble keeping upwind and planing at the same time.

so smelly skater i would say a JP freestyle wave would be a much better bump and jump board than the twin. I must also admit i loved riding the new 79 pro wave. I rekon with all the twin Hype it has slipped through the cracks and is a seriously nice board to ride.



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