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Hot Sails Super Freak. whats it like?

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Created by NotWal > 9 months ago, 12 Jun 2008
NotWal
QLD, 7430 posts
12 Jun 2008 8:49PM
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I'm kind of attracted to the Superfreak as a big wave crossover sail because of its relatively light weight. I have reservations about the visability though (lots of dacron blocking the view). Does anyone have any experience with the 6.4 or any of them for that matter?

555
892 posts
13 Jun 2008 5:58AM
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Track down Jord.. He loves 'em.

He'd have answered by now if it weren't for all the sub forums... he just hangs out in his region now I think.

555
892 posts
13 Jun 2008 6:02AM
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Actually, it looks like he might just be quiet on the forum generally..

www.seabreeze.com.au/Members/Profile/Details.aspx?member=jord

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
18 Jun 2008 10:06AM
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After your Ezzy's they will feel like a spongy, soggy, underpowered, vision blocking piece of sh'acron.

But they flip really really easily, so much better than the Ezzys. Knowing your penchant for spinny flippy stuff they might be a good choice.

NotWal
QLD, 7430 posts
20 Jun 2008 2:05PM
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nebbian said...

After your Ezzy's they will feel like a spongy, soggy, underpowered, vision blocking piece of sh'acron.

But they flip really really easily, so much better than the Ezzys. Knowing your penchant for spinny flippy stuff they might be a good choice.



Have you tried one Nebbs? spongy? soggy?

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
20 Jun 2008 12:28PM
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Hey Notwal,

I tried a 5.8 (I think? about that size anyway) at Corros late last year. It felt spongy, soggy, underpowered, and I felt like I was wearing blinkers. Compared to my Ezzy sails I would never consider them after trying this one.

But for freestyle I think they would be ideal, as they have almost no preshape -- the battens finish a good 10 cm before the mast so they turn off fully and flip really super easy.

Horses for courses.

Gestalt
QLD, 14637 posts
20 Jun 2008 2:49PM
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although it ****s me with the whole specific mast concept. i have to say, the lightest wave type sail i have used is the

Neil Pryde Alpha.....

i had a quick go on haircuts setup at VP with a 5.8 alpha, skinny mast etc on the 99lt jp freestyle

and the combo was a winner. the sail is very light, extremely well balanced and has plenty of drive.

Jord
WA, 107 posts
27 Jun 2008 12:38AM
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Alright lets get it rolling.

The superfreak.

My quiver consists of 5.3 5.8 and 6.3. my 5.3 is a 2008 model, and the other 2 are 2006's,

The 5.3 is on the skiny mast wich by Jeffery hendersons mast guide rates a 9 out of 10
where as the 5.8 and 6.3 are on a drop shape mast wich only rates a 6.5 to 7.5 out of 10 by the guide.

this may not sound like its somethign that you need to know but its important for you to know for what im going to say about performance.

the 5.3 is my main sail i use ( soon to be 5.0 for my 2009 shipment) and i use it for its lowend power by high end controll and i believe this is only possible because i have a great mast for it.
the 5.8 and 6.3 are really only used for the lighter wind days when i need the overall controll than rather power, meaning that i need to work a bit harder to get on the plain, but i believe this is only due to the mast, if i had the correct mast i think i would get much better low end power like i have with my 5.3.

Visibilty,
the pvc panel is placed so you get great vision both infront and to the side of you, and i personally dont notice it at all and can see straight through with out need to duck or anything like that to see.
obviosly you wont get as good of vision as a sail like the fire or so wich has all seethrough panels, but it doesnt effect it.


now there is a new rang of superfreaks coming for 2009, (and is already available) of Superfreaks UL (ultra lights), wich are made with a mixture of the dacron and a new material wich is much lighter, but just as strong, wich only works out to be around 500 to 600 grams lighter but makes it feel like it is 2 or 3 sail sizes smaller than it actually is, but still produces the same amount of power.

and seeing that you are wanting a big sail for wave sailing... i presume you would want it for lighter days, with big boards. and this is what the UL is really made for. you dont want to be slogging out to the waves with a heavy feeling sail without your harness, meening that by the time you get to the break and have a couple of runs your arms wil be dead and you will need to come in. so if you where to go out with a 6.3mtr sail wich only feels like its 5.5, you will get much more sailing time which can only add up to one thing!

If you want anymore info on SF's or the UL range you can PM me, reply back to this, or check out the HSM freakout! forums, www.hotsailsmaui.com/2008/

thanks
Keepsailing
Jordan
windsurfjournal.org

puffin
235 posts
1 Jul 2008 3:34AM
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I'll add in two points from my experience (I own a pair of SF's)

1. Visibility is no problem.
2. The "soft" feel does not suit me for freestyling...I prefer the more immediate feedback that I get from conventional sails.

The are nice to cruise on, though, and jibe like a dream.


Jord said...

Alright lets get it rolling.

The superfreak.

My quiver consists of 5.3 5.8 and 6.3. my 5.3 is a 2008 model, and the other 2 are 2006's,

The 5.3 is on the skiny mast wich by Jeffery hendersons mast guide rates a 9 out of 10
where as the 5.8 and 6.3 are on a drop shape mast wich only rates a 6.5 to 7.5 out of 10 by the guide.

this may not sound like its somethign that you need to know but its important for you to know for what im going to say about performance.

the 5.3 is my main sail i use ( soon to be 5.0 for my 2009 shipment) and i use it for its lowend power by high end controll and i believe this is only possible because i have a great mast for it.
the 5.8 and 6.3 are really only used for the lighter wind days when i need the overall controll than rather power, meaning that i need to work a bit harder to get on the plain, but i believe this is only due to the mast, if i had the correct mast i think i would get much better low end power like i have with my 5.3.

Visibilty,
the pvc panel is placed so you get great vision both infront and to the side of you, and i personally dont notice it at all and can see straight through with out need to duck or anything like that to see.
obviosly you wont get as good of vision as a sail like the fire or so wich has all seethrough panels, but it doesnt effect it.


now there is a new rang of superfreaks coming for 2009, (and is already available) of Superfreaks UL (ultra lights), wich are made with a mixture of the dacron and a new material wich is much lighter, but just as strong, wich only works out to be around 500 to 600 grams lighter but makes it feel like it is 2 or 3 sail sizes smaller than it actually is, but still produces the same amount of power.

and seeing that you are wanting a big sail for wave sailing... i presume you would want it for lighter days, with big boards. and this is what the UL is really made for. you dont want to be slogging out to the waves with a heavy feeling sail without your harness, meening that by the time you get to the break and have a couple of runs your arms wil be dead and you will need to come in. so if you where to go out with a 6.3mtr sail wich only feels like its 5.5, you will get much more sailing time which can only add up to one thing!

If you want anymore info on SF's or the UL range you can PM me, reply back to this, or check out the HSM freakout! forums, www.hotsailsmaui.com/2008/

thanks
Keepsailing
Jordan
windsurfjournal.org




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