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Windsurf Sydney - where?

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Created by evlPanda > 9 months ago, 22 May 2012
evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
22 May 2012 12:13PM
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Yep. Coming down.

I'll be living in east subs somewhere (ooh la la) so I guess Botany Bay is the most likely location? Where else? Lake Illawara is "only" 1.5 hours away.

...3mm or 5mm wetsuit?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
22 May 2012 1:38PM
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Summer is easy, go to Kyeemagh on a NE or even a southerly.

Winter westerlies are a bit more problematic for Sydneysiders. Many people sail at Narrabeen Lake on big westerlies. I don't really like it there as the wind is really gusty due to the hills and trees around.

A fair few now travel to the lakes north and south of Sydney. As I live on the north side of Sydney I go up to the Central Coast lakes as its about an hour's drive.

DVDA
NSW, 24 posts
22 May 2012 3:25PM
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Foreshore Road was pretty popular the other weekend Westerly. Maybe 10 out.

Google Maps for Directions.
www.google.com:443/maps?ll=-33.955001,151.194218&spn=0.004245,0.008256&t=h&z=18

Nearmap for a 2012 view.
www.nearmap.com/?q=Foreshore%20Road@-33.954267,151.194132&ll=-33.954302,151.194277&z=18&t=h&nmd=20120509

La Perouse is more challenging.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
22 May 2012 6:20PM
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Check out the thread below for some tips. For waves Wanda can be good or down the coast to Gerroa.

If the forecast remains as is fore the weekend I'll be doing la perouse on Sat and Kyeemagh for Sunday ( looking to be SSW). Both will be very good bump and jump sailing, quite bumpy. My last two SSW sessions at Kyeemagh were on a 4.7m, hoping for a third this Sunday.



www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/New-South-Wales/Where-to-go-this-weekend/

lelos12345
NSW, 453 posts
22 May 2012 7:24PM
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evlPanda said...

Yep. Coming down.

I'll be living in east subs somewhere (ooh la la) so I guess Botany Bay is the most likely location? Where else? Lake Illawara is "only" 1.5 hours away.

...3mm or 5mm wetsuit?

if ya going south 5mm booties and a weed fin

timford
NSW, 510 posts
22 May 2012 8:01PM
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But I dont want to wear booties but I do want to sail at Lake Illawara

lelos12345 said...

evlPanda said...

Yep. Coming down.

I'll be living in east subs somewhere (ooh la la) so I guess Botany Bay is the most likely location? Where else? Lake Illawara is "only" 1.5 hours away.

...3mm or 5mm wetsuit?

if ya going south 5mm booties and a weed fin




Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
22 May 2012 8:06PM
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A good 4mm by 3mm suit is warm enough for winter. As a rough guide it won't get much colder than 10 degrees when it's windy, though the wind chill will make it feel colder. The water in the ocean normally doesn't get below 15 degrees very often. Water temperatures in the lakes get much colder.

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
22 May 2012 10:14PM
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lelos12345 said...
if ya going south 5mm booties and a weed fin


Leo ya big softie! I was there in my 15 year old ripped up 2/3mm on Anzac day and warm as toast!

(although I did borrow keef's booties to fit into your super size straps on the SP50...)

P.P.S see you on the weekend

[edit] P.P.P.S - welcome to Sydney Panda!

CJW
NSW, 1729 posts
22 May 2012 10:37PM
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timford said...

But I dont want to wear booties but I do want to sail at Lake Illawara


I never wear booties when I sail the lake but keep in mind even from now on it gets COOOOOOOLD, way colder than the ocean.

tomp
NSW, 690 posts
23 May 2012 11:05AM
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Panda,
check out www.nswwavesailing.org. It's a great run down for waves & there is a section for NSW.

Botany Bay is good for all directions. Stehsegler did a run down a few weeks ago. It's close from the wealthy Eastern suburbs.

Lake Macq. seems pretty popular these days and Lake Illawarra charges in a westerly (check previous posts for photos of Lake M and video of Lake I).

I can't see the need for more than 3mm wetsuit unless you are going far south coast.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
23 May 2012 1:20PM
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Thanks all. Looks like I'll be in Sydney for 12 months. Look forward to sailing with you.

lelos12345
NSW, 453 posts
23 May 2012 3:59PM
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Leo ya big softie! I was there in my 15 year old ripped up 2/3mm on Anzac day and warm as toast!

that was a warm day mate I'll look forward to seeing how long ya last if the sun is not out :_)

it gets ICY down there see ya sat ;-))) two new fins to try very exited lets hope it blows 35kn +

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8253 posts
23 May 2012 5:31PM
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tomp said...

Panda,
check out www.nswwavesailing.org. It's a great run down for waves & there is a section for NSW.

Botany Bay is good for all directions. Stehsegler did a run down a few weeks ago. It's close from the wealthy Eastern suburbs.

Lake Macq. seems pretty popular these days and Lake Illawarra charges in a westerly (check previous posts for photos of Lake M and video of Lake I).

I can't see the need for more than 3mm wetsuit unless you are going far south coast.

Or you like to be nice & warm..keen to try my 3/4/5mm this weekend at canton..

Chilla
WA, 136 posts
24 May 2012 3:54PM
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Call me daft but why is the water in the ocean warmer then the water in the lakes? I'm guessing it's something to do with turbulence maybe?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
24 May 2012 6:11PM
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Chilla said...

Call me daft but why is the water in the ocean warmer then the water in the lakes? I'm guessing it's something to do with turbulence maybe?


I think its to do with the laws of thermodynamics and heat exchange. I'm no physicist however it makes sense that a small body of water would be influenced more by its nearby environment than a large body of water. It takes much longer to boil two litres of water in a jug than 200 ml. It takes a lot longer to freeze a two litre bottle of water in a freezer than a icecube.

The ocean would have a huge amount of thermal mass as its so big so it would take a lot of climatic influence for it to change temperature. A much smaller and shallower lake would have a much smaller thermal mass and be influenced by its environment much more.

Plus all the currents flowing around the ocean so warm tropical water would be flowing around even in the middle of winter.

So there would be a bunch of reasons why the ocean is warmer in winter. Also the converse in summer is true with the lakes being warmer than the ocean in summer. This could probably be proved by a bunch of complex formula that no one besides a select few understand.



Chilla
WA, 136 posts
24 May 2012 4:28PM
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Thanks, feel moderately less stupid .

timford
NSW, 510 posts
25 May 2012 7:18AM
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just got a new NPX assasin F3 wettie, hope to try it out soon!!!



shear tip said...

lelos12345 said...
if ya going south 5mm booties and a weed fin


Leo ya big softie! I was there in my 15 year old ripped up 2/3mm on Anzac day and warm as toast!

(although I did borrow keef's booties to fit into your super size straps on the SP50...)

P.P.S see you on the weekend

[edit] P.P.P.S - welcome to Sydney Panda!


sboardcrazy
NSW, 8253 posts
25 May 2012 9:48AM
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Chilla said...

Call me daft but why is the water in the ocean warmer then the water in the lakes? I'm guessing it's something to do with turbulence maybe?


As per Moby I'd say + smaller + shallower..Dams get really cold.

ka43
NSW, 3097 posts
25 May 2012 10:38AM
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At the moment Narrabeen Lagoon is quite warm. Ive been doing a lot of SUP race board paddling and its pretty nice. Plus the weather has been awesome.
But I can guarantee after this weekend with rain and a big cold front the water temp will drop dramatically and stay that way until spring. Bring your warmest wettie.
The bigger lakes like Illawarra and the central coast are getting chilly from what Ive heard.

Windyphil
5 posts
17 Jun 2012 4:59PM
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With the wetsuits you're wearing you could cope with an English winter - 10 degree water temperatures are positively warm. I've been in Oz for 4 years and only managed 2 sessions so far but am keen to try Lake Illawarra now I've seen somew of the content on here!

stehsegler
WA, 3549 posts
19 Jun 2012 3:59AM
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my 5 cents... after windsurfing in Germany for 27 years before moving to Australia my experience is that the first 4 years I thought it was warm in Winter. I used to sail in a short sleeve suit except for a few "cold days". I thought it was a definite bonus not having to rig in snow.

Things went "down hill" from there... today I am sailing a 4/3 suit with a lined rashy on top. Even that sometimes keeps me warm for only so long.

Then again I believe Australia has the best windsurf conditions in the World. Cold water sailing, flat water sailing, big waves, small waves, light wind, way to much wind, close to a big city, in the middle of the desert. You can find it all as long as you know where and when to find it.

NSW has some pretty good spots that work pretty consist during summer (unless La Nina is hanging around).

Australia... I love it.



bobdaboarder
NSW, 185 posts
21 Jun 2012 6:16PM
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3/2 steamer will suffice a sydney winter.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
22 Jun 2012 11:23AM
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Windyphil said...

With the wetsuits you're wearing you could cope with an English winter - 10 degree water temperatures are positively warm. I've been in Oz for 4 years and only managed 2 sessions so far but am keen to try Lake Illawarra now I've seen somew of the content on here!


I think most people get acclimatised to wherever they live. That said on some windy winter days it is pretty cold here. Of course on the coast its never sub zero with snow and ice but with the wind chill and cold lake water, you'd be mad to sail in your boardies and a rashie.

Funny how autumn and winter is giving better windsurfing conditions than summer.



sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
22 Jun 2012 5:34PM
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Panda,
Make sure you get a maroon wetsuit too.



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