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Its gonna be a cold wet but windy weekend

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Created by Mobydisc > 9 months ago, 10 Jun 2008
Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
10 Jun 2008 8:15PM
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Looking forward to some real weather. The sort of weather that makes you feel alive.

timford
NSW, 510 posts
10 Jun 2008 8:35PM
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I am so grumpy we have big boat sailing on Sat and bloody dinghy sailing on Sunday! I am thinking the dinghy race may just get the big heave ho!

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
10 Jun 2008 10:53PM
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Mobydisc said...

Looking forward to some real weather. The sort of weather that makes you feel alive.




Yeah. 17 degree air temp...then wind chill .... then water temp ....then

well, it has been 6-8 weeks since last sail, so WTF

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
11 Jun 2008 7:47AM
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Wineman said...



Yeah. 17 degree air temp...then wind chill .... then water temp ....then





Thats what I'm talking about.

Hey Wineman, I saw your shop down at Campsie on Monday.
You even have a website.

www.wineman.com.au/

Nice one.


Crash Landing
NSW, 1173 posts
11 Jun 2008 9:55AM
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guys, whenever you all plan a sail because of a good forecast the wind never arrives! So be quiet! [}:)]

timford
NSW, 510 posts
11 Jun 2008 10:35AM
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good call.

Crash Landing said...

guys, whenever you all plan a sail because of a good forecast the wind never arrives! So be quiet! [}:)]


trebuchet
NSW, 32 posts
11 Jun 2008 10:51AM
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Might be an idea to dose yourself up on antibiotics or wear a hazmat suit.

After all that rain it will be like sailing in an open sewer...

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
11 Jun 2008 11:10AM
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I'm thinking about going down to St George's basin or someplace like that. The water should be reasonably clean. Anywhere down the coast good in a westerly wind and has a caravan park close by for camping?


Edit:

Just looking at Google Earth. A possible speed strip in a westerly could be in the entrance to Brisbane Waters. Pretty Beach co-ordinates 33 degrees, 31 minutes and 17.76 south by 151 degrees, 20 minutes, 57.73 seconds east. It looks like there are many sandbars there and I think there is a fair amount of flat ground going across Ettalong and Umina before hitting the water.

I haven't sailed or even been there so I can't say how good it is but if its windy I might head up there and check it out. Can anyone comment upon it?

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
11 Jun 2008 12:21PM
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trebuchet said...

Might be an idea to dose yourself up on antibiotics or wear a hazmat suit.

After all that rain it will be like sailing in an open sewer...


I sailed Sandringham in the Bay on Saturday and the water was fine.

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
11 Jun 2008 1:07PM
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Mobydisc said...

Looking forward to some real weather. The sort of weather that makes you feel alive.



You went and broke the "silence" law - if the wind dosn't show up now, its your fault!![}:)]

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
11 Jun 2008 1:09PM
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Mobydisc said...

I'm thinking about going down to St George's basin or someplace like that. The water should be reasonably clean. Anywhere down the coast good in a westerly wind and has a caravan park close by for camping?


Shea-Tip was down there for the long weekend - he recommends a weed fin!

I'm sure he'll add his comments soon.

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
11 Jun 2008 1:28PM
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St Georges Basin is really weedy at the moment. DavMen's right. Anyone got a cheap weed fin they want to sell? (Tuttle box for those who are serious)

I'm back down there for a week in August - hopefully to catch some 30knot westerlies in 40cm of water. (Oops, that's right - don't talk about it!)

Hopefully friday will blow out all the weed from Kurnell to Kyeemagh, and Sat - Sun will have clear water.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
11 Jun 2008 1:49PM
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I hate sailing in weed and refuse to buy a weed fin.

The only good thing about weed is when it gets really windy the weed stops chop.

I'm going to check out that Pretty Beach place. Hopefully its not silted up with sand like all the other river entrances are nowdays.


On Google Earth it looks promising.



shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
11 Jun 2008 2:13PM
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Pretty Beach:
www.google.com.au:443/maps?ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=-33.522292,151.348944&spn=0.02415,0.04961&z=15

Looks like it could get gusty in westerly, but still an interesting place.


Here's where I sail sometimes. Unbelievably good in a westerly. 800m run and 40cm deep:
www.google.com.au:443/maps?ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=-33.522292,151.348944&spn=0.02415,0.04961&z=15

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
11 Jun 2008 2:16PM
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Mobydisc said...

I hate sailing in weed and refuse to buy a weed fin.

The only good thing about weed is when it gets really windy the weed stops chop.

I'm going to check out that Pretty Beach place. Hopefully its not silted up with sand like all the other river entrances are nowdays.


On Google Earth it looks promising.




Going from memory (not good) Pretty Beach is surrounded by high headlands - would make it quite gusty if the wind got in at all.

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
11 Jun 2008 2:56PM
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shear tip said...

Pretty Beach:
www.google.com.au:443/maps?ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=-33.522292,151.348944&spn=0.02415,0.04961&z=15

Looks like it could get gusty in westerly, but still an interesting place.


Here's where I sail sometimes. Unbelievably good in a westerly. 800m run and 40cm deep:
www.google.com.au:443/maps?ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=-33.522292,151.348944&spn=0.02415,0.04961&z=15



both your co-ordinates were of the same place so I'm presuming the second one was meant to be different. I'm curious as to the second place after the wrap you give it....

AUS-057
QLD, 466 posts
11 Jun 2008 3:01PM
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I agree with Davmen. #1 rule is not to talk about forecasted wind.

I was at Sandringham early Sat morning as well. Water is fine. Im not growing a second head yet?

Ive noticed a bit of weed down at sandringham lately. Need to chop hop to get rid of it...

David

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
11 Jun 2008 3:32PM
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Sorry, just installed The Internet this morning. Still learning.

Sanctuary Point:
www.google.com.au:443/maps?ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=-35.108903,150.618181&spn=0.011849,0.024805&z=16

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
11 Jun 2008 3:39PM
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shear tip said...

Sorry, just installed The Internet this morning. Still learning.



Did you buy it or get a dodgy warez copy?

Seriously, is this a good place for westerly winds?


sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
11 Jun 2008 3:41PM
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shear tip said...

Sorry, just installed The Internet this morning. Still learning.

Sanctuary Point:
www.google.com.au:443/maps?ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=-35.108903,150.618181&spn=0.011849,0.024805&z=16


I presume it blows onshore then? Does the chop flatten out much once it hits the shallower water?

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
11 Jun 2008 3:51PM
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Mobydisc said...


Hey Wineman, I saw your shop down at Campsie on Monday.
You even have a website.

www.wineman.com.au/

Nice one.


Nah...not me.
Wineman in a previous occupation!!
Still drink it though

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
11 Jun 2008 4:48PM
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Cross section:

WESTERLY WIND ==>
5km of open water

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............................................||||/
___________________________|||/

DEEP WATER..........................WEED.................40cm DEEP....................


The wind has about 5 kms of open water and it gets pretty choppy. It then hits a bank of weeds where the water gets quite shallow. This weed bank reaches the surface and acts as a chop buster. The only problem is that recently, the shallow water has started to get a bit weedy too. It wasn't always like that, as you can see on google maps. It's not a stringy weed like the weed bank, but a bit more spongy.

I have some photos of the area somewhere. I'll see if I can find them later

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
11 Jun 2008 9:49PM
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Here's the view looking straight out into a 25kt westerly. There's about three inch chop out to the weedline which you can just make out running from point to point.

You have to walk straight out about 100m before you hop on, depending on your fin depth. The tide makes very little difference here for some reason. I think Sussex Inlet is so narrow, and the basin is so big.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
11 Jun 2008 10:32PM
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Are there any caravan parks or places like that around there or any other places you can recommend for a couple of night stay? I've got a van but I'd probably sleep in my tent. Do you need a wind fin?

Looking at the map, do you get access via Paradise Beach Road?

I really hate weed but I'll put up with it for a good sail. I used to sail in Lake Illawarra off Primbee in westerlies. That was a weedy place but the weed kept the chop down. Some of the westerlies were mental, you could see dust blowing over the escarpment to the west.




nobody
NSW, 437 posts
11 Jun 2008 11:34PM
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shear tip said...

Cross section:

WESTERLY WIND ==>
5km of open water

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|||||--------------------------------/
............................................|||||___________________________/
............................................||||/
___________________________|||/

DEEP WATER..........................WEED.................40cm DEEP....................


The wind has about 5 kms of open water and it gets pretty choppy. It then hits a bank of weeds where the water gets quite shallow. This weed bank reaches the surface and acts as a chop buster. The only problem is that recently, the shallow water has started to get a bit weedy too. It wasn't always like that, as you can see on google maps. It's not a stringy weed like the weed bank, but a bit more spongy.

I have some photos of the area somewhere. I'll see if I can find them later

How's the through water visibility? Can you see the bottom all the time?

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
11 Jun 2008 11:35PM
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Mobydisc said...

Are there any caravan parks or places like that around there or any other places you can recommend for a couple of night stay? I've got a van but I'd probably sleep in my tent. Do you need a wind fin?

Looking at the map, do you get access via Paradise Beach Road?

I really hate weed but I'll put up with it for a good sail. I used to sail in Lake Illawarra off Primbee in westerlies. That was a weedy place but the weed kept the chop down. Some of the westerlies were mental, you could see dust blowing over the escarpment to the west.


Probably, unless your paddling.

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
11 Jun 2008 11:46PM
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DavMen said...

Mobydisc said...

Looking forward to some real weather. The sort of weather that makes you feel alive.



You went and broke the "silence" law - if the wind dosn't show up now, its your fault!![}:)]

I'm going to have a great day when all that wind shows up on Saturday and Sunday.
Now it can be my fault when it doesn't come. As your likely to see Moby, but unlikely to see me in the future, this works out better for everyone.

Of course if you believe a few bits of data on a server in WA can change the world's wind patterns, that's up to you. At least you'll have someone to blame. As for me I don't believe the forecast until I start to see the wind building real-time. Those green lines can still disappear and reappear in various ways before Saturday.

I agree though that it is often not a good idea to plan ahead just because of the added disappointment when it invariably doesn't blow to our satisfaction.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
12 Jun 2008 11:13AM
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Its true forecast winds always seem to die. What is interesting is the error is rarely the other way where gales occur when doledrums are forecast.

For this weekend the wind is forecast to be more southerly. There are plenty of places around Sydney which are good in a southerly so travelling won't be necessary.

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
12 Jun 2008 1:27PM
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Mobydisc said...

Are there any caravan parks or places like that around there or any other places you can recommend for a couple of night stay? I've got a van but I'd probably sleep in my tent. Do you need a wind fin?

Looking at the map, do you get access via Paradise Beach Road?
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At the very end of Paradise Beach Road, there's a parking area with a huge grassy area for rigging. The spot can get quite popular in a westerly. Maybe someone from the south coast can elaborate.

Dr Surf is in the area, and he has a map of the region. You could give him a call and find out about any camping areas.

www.machelp.com.au/dr_surf_map.pdf

Spaggetti
NSW, 38 posts
12 Jun 2008 2:43PM
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4 metre swell and 25 knots.. what more can be said..
oh... the where .. well there are only a few spots that can hold it..

Wish I could fly to Flat Top Woolgoolga.. but Sydney shouldn't be to bad..

Bring it on Huey..!

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
12 Jun 2008 7:50PM
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I'm not sure I remember how to Sail



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