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Created by 2231arch > 9 months ago, 17 Oct 2018
2231arch
NSW, 20 posts
17 Oct 2018 8:50AM
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Hi, I have been windsurfing for about a year and a half now on a bic techno and am eager to go faster, I can carve gybe and plane comfortably but I am not sure what board to go for next, Am i looking at freeride boards or slalom boards, could I have some suggestions of what would be best, Thanks

HotBodMon
NSW, 611 posts
17 Oct 2018 10:26AM
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It seems like alot of the kurnell crew like to sail fast. So if you want to keep up slalom would be the likely choice. I went from techno to slalom and the buzz quadrupled , the rear strap being on the rails takes a while to nail but once that's out of the way you will probably be looking at faster sails and fins also..

powersloshin
NSW, 1839 posts
17 Oct 2018 10:49AM
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Congratulations on nailing carve jibes so quickly. Get a gps and post to ka72.com so you can overlay your tracks on google maps and get metrics for your progress. I would suggest not to get carried away with the numbers in the beginning, but focus more on equipment, tuning and technique, the results will come. In NEs if you come down to Kyeemagh you will find several of us that do gps speed, it's not as choppy as Kurnell.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
17 Oct 2018 11:04AM
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You might want to try an intermediate step first; a FreeRace setup. This is typically "detuned" slalom gear that is almost as fast, but easier to handle, and more comfortable (sail longer).

Something like a JP Super Sport, Fanatic Blast, etc, coupled with a twin cam or no cam sail, like a NP Speedster or V8, etc, finished off with a fin like the MFC Liquid Pro can make for a very nice, comfortable, and fast setup.

Going off the wind you'll only be slightly slower than the slalom guys, Joe Average on the beach won't see any difference at all.

How's this?

Board: [Your weight] + 30 litres
Sails: ~ 5.9m2 and ~ 7.2m2
Fins: 36cm + 40cm

I used to have a Starboard Carve, KA Koyote, and MFC setup like this and it was excellent.

Bonus: the no cam sails can generate a lot of power, and get you going very early. I (80kg) used to be able to plane if a kite-board could. That was my wind indicator; the kites were going.

By the way I'm sailing mostly in the bay and I've moved to a FreestyleWave setup, with very soft and cushy SuperFreak sails. I prefer riding the chop/small swell in the bay and except next to the runway I think it might get a little too hairy to be genuinely enjoying myself on slalom gear. A FreestyleWave setup is lots of fun in choppy conditions, and still rather fast (there's a nice flat spot about where the straps are). I'm even considering seeing how fast I can get it to go with a new sail and fin combination. And nothing beats gybing a FreestyleWave setup; swooooosh; come out faster than you went in.

2231arch
NSW, 20 posts
17 Oct 2018 11:35AM
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evlPanda said..
You might want to try an intermediate step first; a FreeRace setup. This is typically "detuned" slalom gear that is almost as fast, but easier to handle, and more comfortable (sail longer).

Something like a JP Super Sport, Fanatic Blast, etc, coupled with a twin cam or no cam sail, like a NP Speedster or V8, etc, finished off with a fin like the MFC Liquid Pro can make for a very nice, comfortable, and fast setup.

Going off the wind you'll only be slightly slower than the slalom guys, Joe Average on the beach won't see any difference at all.

How's this?

Board: [Your weight] + 30 litres
Sails: ~ 5.9m2 and ~ 7.2m2
Fins: 36cm + 40cm

I used to have a Starboard Carve, KA Koyote, and MFC setup like this and it was excellent.

Bonus: the no cam sails can generate a lot of power, and get you going very early. I (80kg) used to be able to plane if a kite-board could. That was my wind indicator; the kites were going.

By the way I'm sailing mostly in the bay and I've moved to a FreestyleWave setup, with very soft and cushy SuperFreak sails. I prefer riding the chop/small swell in the bay and except next to the runway I think it might get a little too hairy to be genuinely enjoying myself on slalom gear. A FreestyleWave setup is lots of fun in choppy conditions, and still rather fast (there's a nice flat spot about where the straps are). I'm even considering seeing how fast I can get it to go with a new sail and fin combination. And nothing beats gybing a FreestyleWave setup; swooooosh; come out faster than you went in.



I am going to be using it with a 6.8 sail that i have always used and it works for me an all conditions from 8 knots all the way to the windiest i have used it in about 36-40 knots, Im only fifty kilos and gaining so im not to sure at the moment i will ask around a little bit more

2231arch
NSW, 20 posts
17 Oct 2018 11:36AM
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powersloshin said..
Congratulations on nailing carve jibes so quickly. Get a gps and post to ka72.com so you can overlay your tracks on google maps and get metrics for your progress. I would suggest not to get carried away with the numbers in the beginning, but focus more on equipment, tuning and technique, the results will come. In NEs if you come down to Kyeemagh you will find several of us that do gps speed, it's not as choppy as Kurnell.


I live in kurnell so i will have to cross the bay which I usually don't have enough time for as I windsurf after school alot of the time but if i do get a quicker board im sure I will have enough time

2231arch
NSW, 20 posts
17 Oct 2018 2:05PM
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At the moment I have got my eyes on the 97L fanatic hawk is this what you recommend

HotBodMon
NSW, 611 posts
17 Oct 2018 4:07PM
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chure , and maybe at 50kg and anything stronger than 20knots you might even consider another sail around 5m and a much smaller board ( even a fsw as suggested, turn that chop into jumping sessions )

peterowensbabs
NSW, 496 posts
17 Oct 2018 10:06PM
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Do your self a huge favour and get on to a Fanatic Blast. Honestly you will never regret it. At least demo one sometime before you fork out for anything else. I have one and love it and everyone else who sails one loves it. Its fast its easy to get plaining easy to sail and its easy to gybe.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
18 Oct 2018 4:38PM
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I'm also looking at the Blast. It's basically the new Hawk, yes? A little flatter than a FreeWave.
How is it in chop?

I second thinking about a Blast (or similar, e.g. JP SuperSport) rather than a full-on slalom setup. Especially so that you are 50kg and sailing in 40 knots with a 6.8.

powersloshin
NSW, 1839 posts
1 Nov 2018 10:01PM
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get this one if you want to go fast, best value you can find:
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing-Boards/~-yubi/2015-Tabou-Manta-98-litres.aspx?_page=1&search=iVVAl2umBXmHLC7VP1FIeA%3D%3D

yazidmokicko
4 posts
6 Nov 2018 1:18AM
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powersloshin said..
Congratulations on nailing carve jibes so quickly. Get a gps and post to ka72.com so you can overlay your tracks on google maps and get metrics for your progress. I would suggest not to get carried away with the numbers in the beginning, but focus more on equipment, tuning and technique, the results will come. In NEs if you come down to Kyeemagh you will find several of us that do gps speed, it's not as choppy as Kurnell. discord.onl/ downloader.vip/adobe-reader/ downloader.vip/itunes/





It seems like alot of the kurnell crew like to sail fast. So if you want to keep up slalom would be the likely choice. I went from techno to slalom and the buzz quadrupled , the rear strap being on the rails takes a while to nail but once that's out of the way you will probably be looking at faster sails and fins also..


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