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Desal & Botany Bay

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Created by DavMen > 9 months ago, 14 Jan 2009
DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
14 Jan 2009 4:03PM
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Interesting Reading

http://www.sydneywater.com.au/MajorProjects/attachments/195.pdf

Seems like the impact on windsurfing may be bigger than we thought!

whenever
NSW, 47 posts
14 Jan 2009 5:34PM
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Looks like we'll all be sailing at Balmoral!

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
14 Jan 2009 7:52PM
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Doesn't look good. Disappointing as its definately the windiest spot in Sydney

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
14 Jan 2009 9:34PM
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There's always the positive side. Pascal did some runs south of the floating pipeline today. Cracked a blistering 40 knots, he said it was super smooth. Will have to give that a run soon.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3115 posts
14 Jan 2009 9:34PM
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shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
14 Jan 2009 10:21PM
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FFS. Can someone remind me why we need this?

slalomfreak
NSW, 304 posts
14 Jan 2009 11:36PM
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shear tip said...

FFS. Can someone remind me why we need this?



For the same reason we needed all the toll roads?

Walt
264 posts
15 Jan 2009 6:06AM
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Hi All,
Hey, Waiting4wind where would that run be south of the pipeline?
If its super smooth during our 25+ NE it sounds great.

timford
NSW, 510 posts
15 Jan 2009 8:30AM
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stink! look like WSnS might get a bit of a run on freestyle gear

timford
NSW, 510 posts
15 Jan 2009 8:30AM
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shear tip said...

FFS. Can someone remind me why we need this?


well said mike!

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
15 Jan 2009 9:14AM
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Walt said...

Hi All,
Hey, Waiting4wind where would that run be south of the pipeline?
If its super smooth during our 25+ NE it sounds great.




It's the orange snake you can out in the middle of the bay. Probably about 800m south of the runway and about the same from the shore.

....The Desal Plant was another Iiema contribution..

Walt
264 posts
15 Jan 2009 9:19AM
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Hi

Thanks Waiting4wind,

Yes the orange Iiema snake, anti venom is windsurfing.

So you sail against the snake, I would think it would still be quiet choppy out there.
Still on holidays so have time might try the orange snake.
Kind Regards
Walt

AUS-057
QLD, 466 posts
15 Jan 2009 11:05AM
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Ive been out on the leeward side of the snake a several times in the ENE and NE winds around xmas. I was mostly on the formula board doing upwind/downwind laps around the snake.

The snake does smooth out the chop a bit but does not completely eliminate it. Where you might have 30cm confused chop on the windward side of the snake it might be around 10cm and smooth surface on the leeward side of the snake.

At the top of the run it is quite smooth and as you get towards the end of the run the chop is running perpendicular and increasing in size.

Good chance for speed runs in a decent wind.

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
15 Jan 2009 8:35PM
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I've had a few runs on the north side in a southerly. It gets rid of the surface chop, but there's still a smooth swell running underneath. It's like speeding over smooth bumps.

timford
NSW, 510 posts
20 Jan 2009 5:15PM
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dudes in the know....... after sailing yesterday at Kyeemah with the crap in the water, the grass cut so short your gear gets covered in crap (no way around it), no taps, no water, lice, crap on the beach, crap on the water, sports teams on the beach, ferrel F@#K heads period, idiots blocking the ramp, the pending arrival of the barge, no parking, do I need to go on............... is there another spot within reach for NE wind within Sydney area?

Kurnell is just abit much of a hike mid week.

AUS-057
QLD, 466 posts
20 Jan 2009 5:22PM
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Flatwater options south of the bridge include

Ramsgate beach (Bit further down the bay)

Also Rose Bay is reported to be ok in a NE. (Just need to dodge boats)




DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
20 Jan 2009 9:01PM
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timford said...

dudes in the know....... after sailing yesterday at Kyeemah with the crap in the water, the grass cut so short your gear gets covered in crap (no way around it), no taps, no water, lice, crap on the beach, crap on the water, sports teams on the beach, ferrel F@#K heads period, idiots blocking the ramp, the pending arrival of the barge, no parking, do I need to go on............... is there another spot within reach for NE wind within Sydney area?

Kurnell is just abit much of a hike mid week.



Forget Rodd Point for short board options - after a week or two of afternoon sessions when it was blowing 25-30knts at Kyeemagh, lucky to get a flukey 15 - I'm so over that place - gusty, muddy, shifty & unpredictable.

It ain't what it use to be for short boarders anyway - Still a great spot for Wally's though.


sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
20 Jan 2009 10:09PM
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I'm picking Ramsgate to be the new Kyeemagh soon. More parking, better rigging area, only downside is not as much flat water like next the runway, but that's only a few well done tacks away...I'm thinking they would be longer runs too heading toward Kurnell...Dave???

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
20 Jan 2009 10:45PM
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What about the beach up at the northern end...

should work in a N/E, upwind of all the work & crap

Might just require a bit of work to get back up there to finish

(up where it says 'South West Hwy')

Jaime
NSW, 91 posts
20 Jan 2009 10:57PM
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I sailed Kurnell today, 25+ knots and really steady, great ramps on the outside, clean flat water on the inside and only two other guys out.
No crowds, close rigging to the water, unfortunately 80 km round trip from the cbd.
It certainly beats Kyeemagh, as Tim describes it yesterday.
Oh, and happy birthday to big Jeremy, he came down with his big mate 'dutchie', and some very cute fans/colleagues from the whitehorse.

AUS-057
QLD, 466 posts
20 Jan 2009 10:14PM
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Ramsgate has plenty of rigging grass. Just as bumpy as Kurnell in a NE,.

timford
NSW, 510 posts
21 Jan 2009 7:58AM
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hmmmm yes.............might try Rose Bay and see how it is, i guess the number of boats and sea plnes will be similar to the number of ferral's so it may pan out.

bdl2333
NSW, 117 posts
21 Jan 2009 12:03PM
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Jaime said...

I sailed Kurnell today, 25+ knots and really steady, great ramps on the outside, clean flat water on the inside and only two other guys out.
No crowds, close rigging to the water, unfortunately 80 km round trip from the cbd.
It certainly beats Kyeemagh, as Tim describes it yesterday.
Oh, and happy birthday to big Jeremy, he came down with his big mate 'dutchie', and some very cute fans/colleagues from the whitehorse.



yeah that session sounds okay Jamie but i'm more interested to hear about Jeremy's colleagues. Will they be a regular feature at Kurnell? might be worth the extra k's then!
Had an awesome session at Kurnell during the festive season. i think i need to relocate to the Sutherland Shire!

timford
NSW, 510 posts
18 Feb 2009 10:53AM
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Looks like the pipeline barge has arrived and is moored at Balmain wharf.
it can be seen from the Anzac Bridge.
Its pretty bloody big, there will be no missing it when it arrives.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
19 Feb 2009 7:39PM
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Yeah it's BIG

100m x 30m x 6 storeys high.

With dredges front & rear it'll be 1.5 to 2km long

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
19 Feb 2009 9:49PM
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Latest from the Sydney Water site.


Community and Construction Updates

Summary Invitation - Kyeemagh community event - Sunday 22 February

Additional Information The community is invited to attend a sausage sizzle to celebrate the arrival of the lay barge called the Nebula to Botany Bay and the successful completion of microtunnelling under Tancred Avenue. The Nebula will be used to lay pipe across Botany Bay this year as part of Sydney’s Desalination Project.



They say celebrate we say mourn - Sell your windsurfing sole for a sausage

(Edit) - I hope its only Pork sausages - hehehehe.....[}:)]

timford
NSW, 510 posts
20 Feb 2009 6:20PM
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well there goes any chance of a light wind fling for the boss and the learner on sunday avo then! grrr

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
20 Feb 2009 6:26PM
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timford said...

well there goes any chance of a light wind fling for the boss and the learner on sunday avo then! grrr


There is always Narrabeen Lake. No chance of construction works there. Plus the serenity of bushlands and easy parking. From the sound of it all the sea lice have migrated from Narrabeen Lake to Botany Bay this summer too.


stehsegler
WA, 3549 posts
5 Mar 2009 9:06PM
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have a look at the map on this page:

http://www.sydneywater.com.au/EnsuringtheFuture/Desalination/BotanyBayCrossing.cfm

Given where they will dredge and deposit the sand I wonder how much it will influence the water quality in Botany Bay.

Also, I love how they trivialize the environmental impact of the energy consumed to desalinate seawater... There is a "pretty" one pager on the factsheet page of the same web site talking about how there will be zero impact on greenhouse gases from the operation of the plant because they use wind energy to produce the power... hm, I wonder what they do on days when there isn't enough wind? Turn of the water supply for the Inner West?

AUS-057
QLD, 466 posts
6 Mar 2009 6:22AM
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Any one know of any of the dredging crew? Perhaps they could build us a nice North-South sandbank?



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