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gaastra vapor 2010 (test proto)

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Created by wkcwarrior > 9 months ago, 29 Sep 2009
wkcwarrior
371 posts
29 Sep 2009 3:59PM
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some photos of testing tryouts inovation on 2010 vapor prototype:

Important: This is only test prototype, not final look of vapor
I am very shure that this don't be vapor 2010 look








cheerz

Bender
WA, 2235 posts
29 Sep 2009 4:09PM
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mmmmmmmm as i see it, it could be painful re-theading your adjustable outhaul everytime you rig up as you would have to take off the tail peice of your boom to get it through the sail. [}:)]

Looks wicked though

choco
SA, 4175 posts
29 Sep 2009 5:47PM
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A.R.T did this years ago....

Pugwash
WA, 7720 posts
29 Sep 2009 4:46PM
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Bender said...

mmmmmmmm as i see it, it could be painful re-theading your adjustable outhaul everytime you rig up as you would have to take off the tail peice of your boom to get it through the sail. [}:)]

Looks wicked though


Looks like there is a zip for boom fitting...

The boom through the sail looks kinda weird. What about catching the foot in the water Hard to see how the foot is cut in these photos, but I can see how this could be a problem if the foot is not cut quite short...

Crash Landing
NSW, 1173 posts
29 Sep 2009 6:46PM
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Bender said...

mmmmmmmm as i see it, it could be painful re-theading your adjustable outhaul everytime you rig up as you would have to take off the tail peice of your boom to get it through the sail. [}:)]

Looks wicked though


I think I see a zipper..

This is very similar to the A.R.T. sail although the A.R.T. sail required a specialist boom..

Bender
WA, 2235 posts
29 Sep 2009 4:50PM
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Pugwash said...

Bender said...

mmmmmmmm as i see it, it could be painful re-theading your adjustable outhaul everytime you rig up as you would have to take off the tail peice of your boom to get it through the sail. [}:)]

Looks wicked though


Looks like there is a zip for boom fitting...

The boom through the sail looks kinda weird. What about catching the foot in the water Hard to see how the foot is cut in these photos, but I can see how this could be a problem if the foot is not cut quite short...


well spotted, yep i can see a zip. makes more sense now

icesurf
QLD, 113 posts
29 Sep 2009 7:16PM
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Yep, A.R.T tried this years ago, A.R.T sails also had a normal rear eyelet position.

Years ago had some of those A.R.T sails & still have the rear end boom fittings.

Using the A.R.T sails with the boom connected to the inner eyelet similar to Gaastra position in the photo didn't seem to work . The sail shape was unstable, lack power/ drive, unable to sail upwind, ended up only using the normal boom rear eyelet position.

Maybe Gaastra have made the A.R.T concept stable & it actually works now?


wkcwarrior
371 posts
29 Sep 2009 7:02PM
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yes there is a zip, but excuse me, I forgot to wrote that this is not
final look of vapor. This is only some prototype version for testing purpose only.
I don't think that this will be out. For that we need to wait for official
look on gaastra site for 2010.

wkcwarrior
371 posts
29 Sep 2009 7:06PM
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@ice
do you have any link of that ART sail?
I like to see it very much

wkcwarrior
371 posts
29 Sep 2009 7:10PM
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this is i think real look of gaastra vapor 2010
no boom inside, no zip, I suppose that idea don't work at all
as ICE said....




JayBee
NSW, 714 posts
29 Sep 2009 9:38PM
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Looks like the sail Arnon Dagan used at the recent Formula Worlds

windsurfing4
124 posts
29 Sep 2009 8:43PM
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This prototype for big sizes is currently being tested in Sylt after Santa Pola with Dagan.

www.windmag.com/actu-pwa-sylt-09-photos-volees-nouvelle-gaastra-vapor

"La derni?re version d?finitive avant lancement en production sera d?cid?e apr?s une ultime session de test ? Marseille avec Pritchard, Bordes, Williams et Dagan."

"The latest version before final production launch will be decided after a final test session in Marseille with Pritchard, Bordes, Williams and Dagan."

You can see on vim?o :
Vapor 2010 :


GTX Race 2010 :


Gear 2010 : www.windsurfing44.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=15



mkseven
QLD, 2315 posts
30 Sep 2009 11:58AM
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wkcwarrior said...

@ice
do you have any link of that ART sail?
I like to see it very much


www.windsurfingmag.com
rsracing.neilpryde.com/download/pdf/test_result_surf_0903.pdf

10 years so it would be off patent if there was one. It's a pity the Vapor design doesn't lend itself to cutouts due to lack of crossover batten. I did notice the extra boom particularly when riding small boards, but it wasn't annoying. Surely they can take 5-10cm off without disturbing the sail to the extent of that zippered system. Then maybe it'll have the good compromise of both traditional boom length and cutout system

Gybesports
NSW, 193 posts
6 Oct 2009 12:49PM
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That is definately not the 2010 model, we have already tested the 2010 in Tarifa in July. Vapor 2010 goes into production late November -December and should be in Aus early Jan.

thanks David

FIN555
30 posts
6 Oct 2009 7:45PM
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If you put a cutout to a sail i think the skin tension will change dramatically.
So you will have to design the sail all over. I have heard that you will loose stability with cutouts. These cutouts are often done only because of demand from the markets. Not because it would give you some kind of edge.

Wood Duck
157 posts
11 Oct 2009 10:02AM
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Gybesports said...

That is definately not the 2010 model, we have already tested the 2010 in Tarifa in July. Vapor 2010 goes into production late November -December and should be in Aus early Jan.

thanks David


So, they may be here in Australia December 2010 !!

25
WA, 319 posts
11 Oct 2009 5:31PM
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my experience exactly

Gybesports
NSW, 193 posts
23 Oct 2009 11:28AM
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Wood Duck said...

Gybesports said...

That is definately not the 2010 model, we have already tested the 2010 in Tarifa in July. Vapor 2010 goes into production late November -December and should be in Aus early Jan.

thanks David


So, they may be here in Australia December 2010 !!


Gaastra now has a full dealer network in Australia again - local support through your shops should alleviate these problems along with better support and understanding of the market from Gaastra. However Vapors are on a made to order only basis. First orders to be in By Nov 10 for January 15 delivery

Gybesports
NSW, 193 posts
23 Oct 2009 11:34AM
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FIN555 said...

Looks like they are still testing http://www.pritchardwindsurfing.com/content/blogcategory/14/44/


The word on the street is that Dan Kasseler did some re-cuts in france last 2 weeks and the final patterns are going to the factory to start production - maybe we will see the clew position inside the sail after all! Will have to wait and see what comes out!



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