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doppler distance

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Created by decrepit > 9 months ago, 30 Nov 2007
decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:25PM
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can anybody explain this,
doppler speeds are normally lower than trackpoint speeds, but doppler distance is greater than trackpoint distance.
So in the same time period doppler has you going further at a lower speed, this seems to invoke the use of something exotic like short cuts thru extra dimensions.

I can see that trackpoints underestimates total distance as it's a series of straight lines between the points, and doesn't follow the greater distance of the curve you actually travel, (look at a close up of some alpha tracks).
Think I've worked it out to some extent, the main difference in speeds is the short time max, due to inaccuracies in trackpoints giving a variation in speed, these variations cancel out at longer times, so it's possible that longer time trackpoint speeds are actually less than doppler.

My feeling is that if you use doppler for your speed posts, you can also use doppler for your distance, but if you're using trackpoint derived speeds, you should also use trackpoint distance.

Any thoughts to any of this ramble?

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:35PM
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yeah, I think your thinking about it too hard

I thought this speed challenge stuff was about fun, not a science lesson



only jokin Decrep
surely if the distances are longer but the time is the same then its logical that the speed is slower

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:40PM
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grumplestiltskin said...


surely if the distances are longer but the time is the same then its logical that the speed is slower


Umm, no if you want to go further in the same time, you have to go faster!

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:41PM
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bloody beer, addles your brain

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
30 Nov 2007 11:49PM
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So does old age mate!!!!!

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
1 Dec 2007 12:30AM
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If you think to much about it, it will hurt

Well thats my philosophy anyway

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
1 Dec 2007 12:34AM
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Elmo, liked your slant on latest session GPS Challenge. Whats the bit about waves and no speed stuff? no speed mast or something?

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
1 Dec 2007 12:38AM
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mineral1 said...

Elmo, liked your slant on latest session GPS Challenge. Whats the bit about waves and no speed stuff? no speed mast or something?


Yep,

Killed my speed sailing mast dead, practiced my swimming skills (just shy of 1km into the wind).

Unfortunately I can't afford a new one so I'll have to rough it in the surf for a while, Oh deary-deary me I'm heart broken

Bloody estuary is bigger than it looks, thank goodness it was only a short run



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