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The best place , location for speed channel in Australia

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Created by Macroscien > 9 months ago, 13 Dec 2020
Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
13 Dec 2020 9:17PM
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Now you could propose your favorite place for artificial speed channel in Australia.
Here is my pick.
Just few km of Brisbane city, the place enjoy constant strong winds.





Obviously consideration is purely theoretical at this moment due to RED TAPE-National Park , but those condition do change constantly, the location remain for next few thousand years the same.+close to civilisationwarm climate whole year round-island access need feerry.

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
13 Dec 2020 10:33PM
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Anywhere windy that you can find the funding to dig it, and deal with all the red tape to allow it.

Over to you Macro.

FWIW, I nominate somewhere around Shark Bay WA. Build a hotel next to it and and airport for access and you have winner.

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
14 Dec 2020 7:50PM
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When we talk about shark bay there's a couple of issues. 1, Shark bay has 1,500km of coastline. 2,The strongest winds are probably in the vicinity of Dirk Hartog Is and the five fingers which are a long way from any population centre or infrastructure. 3, The way to get the local community to fund would be proximity to Denham. Denham and its 20km surrounds have no suitable areas for a canal. the closest would be around Big Lagoon or Boobays, both 40km plus away from Denham. Boobays is too close to world heritage tourism spots so couldnt see that happening. 4, I reckon a spot within the 5 fingers would probably be the spot, stronger winds than the Denham side, venturi effect between the fingers, but problematically so isolated that no-one locally would fund it. 5, As for private investors, it;d have to be sum1 willing to donate/throwaway a lot of money for little investment return. 6, Why would you bother when we have Luderitz which will always have stronger winds, with much cooler summer ocean temp about 16 to 18c vs 22 to27c shark bay, a ready made canal and every windsurfing speed record.

PS. a few years back when Crasher set the Shark Bay record of 46kts 2 sec peak, that summer we had the strongest seabreezes the west coast had had for 15 years. That was the year the ocean temps for the west coast were the coolest in 15 years. From Perth to Shark Bay we had regular strong sea breezes, in perth it was the most 20 to 30 kt seabreezes I could remember, and Shark Bay was getting regular 30 to 40kt seabreezes.

The last few years when the ocean temps have been more average/normal and we have had less 20 to 30 kt seabreezes in perth, and very few 35kt+ seabreezes at shark bay.

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
14 Dec 2020 11:29PM
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Yep, you summed it up well Hardie, O' Great Shark Bay Explorer.

It's just that, this area is the only one I know of in Australia where the geophysical setup is so simmilar to Luderitz (almost the same Latitude and same west coast inland desert with cold ocean current) and where you get reliable. Consistently strong winds from a prevailing direction. (now that Sandy Point has deteriorated so much )

Somewhere close to Useless Loop? But that does not have any Tourist facilities that I know of, and it is still a jarring corrugated dirt road for at least 155Km from another hundred kays from nowhere. The base of the second or third finger is probably the best spot. Still 100Km along a rough gravel road from Hamlin Pool. Totally in the middle of nowhere.

The only advantage to us, is that is in this country.

See macro - it's not going to happen.

olskool
QLD, 2459 posts
15 Dec 2020 4:35AM
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Macro, the only reason Cape Moreton reads consistently high is exactly that. The readings come from local lighthouse sitting on top of the large headland.

Richiefish
QLD, 5610 posts
15 Dec 2020 9:02PM
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Are speed sailors allowed to use artificial wind ? If so it would be cheaper to set up something like this out back of Ipswich...


Mark _australia
WA, 23436 posts
19 Dec 2020 12:51PM
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Movable wall thing that sticks up out of the water to stop chop.

Still waiting for Lake Grace to flood again up to the edge of the road....... can sail within 2m of the roadway and its a 50km speed strip with nothing to interrupt the wind also

mikey100
QLD, 1097 posts
20 Dec 2020 5:17AM
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mikey100
QLD, 1097 posts
20 Dec 2020 5:18AM
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mikey100 said..




We are way down the list here in Qld.

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
20 Dec 2020 6:53PM
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That is interesting, but what really counts for us is days over 30 Knots from the right (very consistent) direction. That would eliminate a large number of those places, and probably add a few more to the list.

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
20 Dec 2020 9:42PM
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Well according to that list 6 of the top 8 are all in the Newcastle area. Which is of course nonsense.
Minmi, Awaba, Killingworth and Seahampton are inland suburbs with very little wind. Rathmines is also sheltered. What they have in common though is that they all use the same wind gauge as Newcastle which is positioned on Nobby's head which is a 33m high rock attached only to the mainland by a manmade causeway.

mikey100
QLD, 1097 posts
23 Dec 2020 9:18AM
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So there are facts... and then there are 'alternative facts'. (As one famous American politician put it )

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
23 Dec 2020 9:25AM
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when i first created the burrum windfest i bought data from the bom that allowed a thorough review of the site i was using which allowed me to go beyond the 3pm average and from there could work out best time to run the event.



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