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The Invisible Man

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Created by frant > 9 months ago, 17 Oct 2007
frant
VIC, 1230 posts
17 Oct 2007 2:20PM
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Seems that there is a bloke in the US of A by the name of Kanga*** who must be working on a top secret project to make things invisible. Seems to be working as the local population (shall we call him John Doe or Bil1 Kleen) absolutely refuse to believe that this Kanga*** fella exists and absolutely refuses to acknowlege any of the Kanga*** exploits. Anyway the project doesn't work down under and we see see you Kanga. The A KANGA PUB sounds like a pretty good speed spot if only we new its "official name". Keep up the nice speeds.

Roo
876 posts
17 Oct 2007 2:00PM
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Damm, my cloak of invisibility slipped off and I've been sprung! Having a great time winding up the seppos, still got a few suprises in store. Thursday looks to be mega, had a sweet time today all by my lonesome at the AKangaPub, nobody to buy me a drink....bugger.

Kanga***

ka43
NSW, 3091 posts
17 Oct 2007 4:26PM
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So how come they dont want to believe you are doing those speeds??
Professional jealousy??
An Aussie on their turf??
Give em' heaps.

DavMen
NSW, 1508 posts
17 Oct 2007 5:13PM
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Off topic

KA43 - How's the Flat head puncture going?

ka43
NSW, 3091 posts
18 Oct 2007 9:06AM
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All pretty much healed up thanks Dave.
There is a tiny bit of something hard at the edge of the cut which from reading what others guys said may be a bit of the spine on the fish's back. Funny, it was super sore for 3-4 days then stopped and healed quickly. Maybe just body's way of getting the crap out.
I reckon Ill swap the mysterious depths of Narrabeen for the sands of Kyeemagh this weekend. Seeya there??

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
18 Oct 2007 9:25AM
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geez Grant, next you'll be moving to Brighton mate!

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
18 Oct 2007 9:41AM
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Gee. I thought the cryptic nature of my post would keep everyone guessing as to the identity of kanga***

firiebob
WA, 3172 posts
18 Oct 2007 8:00AM
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Na, on to it straight up frant, been on the GPS-SS site too
I've read a few posts from Seppo Kleen on other forums too, nuff said hey

ka43
NSW, 3091 posts
18 Oct 2007 11:13AM
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Pretty much the same as Firiebob. Once youve seen a few posts on GPSSS its not hard to figure it out. Kanga*** gets a few of them going for sure.

Rex, never mate, I couldnt leave God's country.

Roo
876 posts
18 Oct 2007 11:08AM
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The posts on GPSSS keep me amused, it's like watching a train wreck...you cant look away. Amazes me some of the stuff he comes out with, seems I don't exist in his world for which I am truly thankful. Fortunately I found ARooBar last year otherwise I would be down there annoying all of you at Sandy Point and Perth and the seppos would have nobody to hate!

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
18 Oct 2007 2:45PM
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Keeps us all amused. I would love to rip in with a few inflammatory comments but out of respect of the GPSS forum just gotta sit back and laugh.

Roo
876 posts
18 Oct 2007 1:09PM
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Now, now Frant...you can't go insulting me on a public forum like GPSSS, they've already sided with Kleen and censored me enough and removed my posts.

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
19 Oct 2007 2:16PM
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Went out in search of a new speed spot near Geelong today. Have had my eye on the Southern end of Swan Bay near Queenscliff for a while. Decided to name the spot AKangaPub. For a Google Earth screenshot look at www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=6496 AKangaPub should work at its best in a stinking North-North Westerly. Hopefully can get big TonyW out to set a 40 plus here, although even I am going to have a crack.

Roo
876 posts
19 Oct 2007 2:36PM
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Watch out for the blue ringed buggers, looks like the sewage treatment plant. Grew up in Portarlington, know the area well, few big stingers in the bay from what I remember.

Roo
876 posts
19 Oct 2007 2:44PM
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Just seen your post on GPSSS. The official name for the location is the Point Lonsdale Sewage Treatment plant, everyone must call it by this name. It's only fair to the locals who feaces flow into it. There is no such place as AKangaPub, you must not use this name. My parents crapped there back in the 80's, it has been flushed before, please use the correct name. The location must be named for the place you launch the turd from. I was hiding in the bushes taking a slash, you never did those speeds you posted, impossible to accelerate that fast through so much crap. You have to start from the dunny end of the course.

Mr Kleen

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
19 Oct 2007 8:16PM
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Afraid I have lost all respect for you Mr Rogers. Mr Kleen and myself, both anally retentive types for precision in all things and in what things are named in particular note that:- Everybody knows that Kean is spelt with an E as in Keane. If you don't even have the self respect to spell your own name correctly then how can you expect the respect of others.

This afternoon went out for an evening session on lake Connewarre. As this is such a vast expanse of navigable water I asked one of the locals what this place was called. "Front of Frants Place" of course, so henceforth the run shall be known as Front of Frants Place Run, Lake Connewarre, Shire of Bellarine Moolap Ward, Federal Electorate of Corio, in the State of Victoria. Australia.
To make sure that there can be no question that it was actually me posting the session I got a witness to watch me launch and retrieve, but you will have to accept a hoofprint in leau of a signature on the affadavit.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
19 Oct 2007 11:10PM
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*tears running down my face...* stop it you guys, no in fact, keep going...

Gold

slowboat
WA, 560 posts
20 Oct 2007 12:09AM
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Hey Frant, sounds like you shoulda called it APooBar

firiebob
WA, 3172 posts
20 Oct 2007 7:15AM
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" Hey Frant, sounds like you shoulda called it APooBar"


frant
VIC, 1230 posts
20 Oct 2007 9:23AM
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quote:
Originally posted by slowboat

Hey Frant, sounds like you shoulda called it APooBar


Fortunately Roo has actually got it wrong on this one, The site is now a protected marine reserve and is in a pristine natural condition. Parks Victoria has a marine science laboratory and a "marine discovery centre" located here and I launched from the "coastal swamp observation boardwalk". As well as genuinely checking the speed potential it was a sort of political statement to sail there. Parks Vic and the local council have closed vehicle access to our Point Henry launch site. We now have to walk 300 metres with our gear or launch from a newly constructed carpark and wade through 200 metres of weedbeds to reach sailable depth water. The old carpark was closed off to prevent vehicular damage to the saltmarsh but its the trailbikes that do all the damage and they can just scoot around the barriers. I hate to think of the damage that will occur to the weedbeds as a path is worn from the carpark, I guess it will eventually become a channel. Yesterday I thought that I would go down to Queenscliff and say "Hey if we can't sail at Point Henry then we will come down to the Swan Bay Marine Reserve and trample all over the place. A couple of Parks rangers did check me out and appeared to be on the verge of saying "You can't park there". The parks rangers aren't the culprits though, its the council who refuse to acknowlege that maybe they have made a mistake and that for a few extra hundred thousand dollars thay could keep our preferred carpark open with suitable environmental protection.

latedropeddy
VIC, 417 posts
20 Oct 2007 10:25AM
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good laugh for the morning! keep it up.
Yeah my work was going to export me to the US - Im so stoked not to be going.

A KangaPub - what beers are you serving?

Roo
876 posts
20 Oct 2007 11:13AM
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Roo.t beer of course!

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
24 Oct 2007 12:25PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Roo

Roo.t beer of course!


Roo.t beer! ROOT BEER!!! This is typical of this gentlemans complete disregard for the correct name for things. The beverage served at AKangaPub is correctly known as Vodka Cooler or in Frants day was correctly called "a couple of cans of UDL Vodka'n'orange" Root beer indeed.
Remember Wax Dust and Polish as you Sheen
Mr Kleen.

The Waterboy
VIC, 109 posts
25 Oct 2007 3:49AM
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quote:
Originally posted by frant

Went out in search of a new speed spot near Geelong today. Have had my eye on the Southern end of Swan Bay near Queenscliff for a while. Decided to name the spot AKangaPub. For a Google Earth screenshot look at www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=6496 AKangaPub should work at its best in a stinking North-North Westerly. Hopefully can get big TonyW out to set a 40 plus here, although even I am going to have a crack.



But nay! The speedsailing flag was planted in this spot and christened (with my own blood no less) late last year (2006) in the proud name of the Kiting Nation.

Picked up my first speedscar here (which is thankfully so far my only one); started messing around in the shallows (5cm depth) to see just how fast I could go. Made about 5 or 6 runs, with each run getting successively quicker, then on (what turned out to be) the final run, the fin hit a rock and the board was ripped away from my feet, but as the water was so shallow, instead of dropping behind me, the board tumbled underneath me and the edge bit me 'but good on the left shin.

3-4 weeks later the cut still looked pretty much the same as it did when I waded ashore - i.e. open, raw, dirty (and now weeping a bit). Reckon Roo's comment about the Sewage Treatment in the neighbourhood may have had something to do with that.

After a course of topical and oral antibiotics it scabbed over in the next couple of weeks, but it's left me with a dint in the shinbone and a scar covered with (probably permanently) brown-tinted skin.

As for the spot itself, weeeelllll.... it has it's drawbacks and limitations; the spit of land directly north of the Marine Discovery Centre cuts the wind and makes it more turbulent, so once you're behind that bit of land the wind is definitely not as strong and is more gusty/finicky.

There's also a few rocks scattered in amongst the weed and sand beds, and more importantly, there's still a few slim (1/2 inch diameter) iron spikes poking up out of the water (which the locals used to moor their dinghy's to), and which can be hard to spot until you're almost on top of them in the area to the east of the Marine Discovery centre (which is also unfortunately the part most exposed to wind and best for speedsailing).

I must admit, the fact it is a marine reserve, and that you're kiting/windsurfing literally in front of the Marine Parks offices has been in the back of my mind when kiting there. When I was just learning this was a spot I often went to due to its lack of traffic or when it was a Northerly, but after I'd become good enough to handle myself in the traffic at Pt Henry, I figured it a prudent judgement to ride the Point in all Northerlies and to leave this place be - no point possibly antagonising the authorities when there's another spot that's way better just a short drive away.

Which brings up the next point; Frant, what's the current state-of-play with the 5-knot speed limit at Pt Henry. The photo's I've seen of those signs do seem to suggest that this zone extends at least 100 to 200m seawards from the shoreline. What I really want to know is what is the reason for this zone? Apart from the (very) occasional dinghy anchored for a few hours for fishing, the only people using the water in this area is the kiter's and the windsurfers (the lack of beach, the seagrass/seaweed, the smell, and especially the sea urchins means there are never any swimmers). So why the limit? There's noone for us to bother by going fast there, and it's one of the best spots in Port Phillip to do so.

Is the Geelong Council aware that Pt Henry has been the prime location for a community of local speedsailors for many years now (amongst whom is Tony Wynhoven, currently ranked 4th fastest in the world on GPS-SS), and that this zone will eliminate his ability to use the place that has been his main training ground?

Haven't seen any posts from Cam and Lloyd (and the rest of the Cremaster crew), or any mention of the restricted access issue on the Cremaster website.

Will be back in Australia on 26 October (have been marooned in the Canadian Rockies since January - there's a fair few lakes up there, but not much wind on them) so you should see me down at Pt Henry/around the Queenscliff area soon. Come to think of it, I think I'll make it a point to visit Pt Henry regardless of the wind situation just so I can check out for myself just what the situation is.

So Frant, if I see you 'round the traps, would be happy to say G'day and have a chat about what to do about responding to the Pt Henry restrictions (and maybe even a sail, should you stoop so low as to consort with a kiter!).

Just look out for a kiter with a 12m Best Waroo (gold with a black leading edge). If he's got a brown scar on the left shin (and possibly wearing a GT-11 in an AquaPac) you've found your man.

Cheers!

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
25 Oct 2007 11:49AM
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Waterboy. You cant ask me to consort with a kiter on a public forum, its just not on. But then Geelong might be different to other places cause I have never noted antagonism between kiters and windsurfers so happy to catch up with you. The Point Henry sign shows an exclusion zone for kiters only in the vicinity of Alcoa pier...no problem with that even on a windsurfer. The 5 knot limit within 200metres of shore is a Marine Board of Victoria regulation for ALL shorelines in Victoria and all watercraft. Parks Vic probably had to put it on the sign for this reason. It will all come down to policing and that is my concern. Some overzealos official or twisted member of the public might take it upon themselves to police the regulation given that there is a sign. Don't give them your GPS tracklog for fear of self incrimination. There is also an issue with parking access and barricades at Point Henry that the council has become quite defensive over. This might cause a bit of irritation when you find that you can't park up close at Point Henry on a busy day and now that all the beach users, including dog walkers are forced to park in specific parking bays, there is an accumulation of rubbish and dog crap where you are forced to rig.

Naming rights for speedruns... I think that we have to establish a convention similar to rockclimbing. The first person to do the route has naming rights. AKangaPub is the first posting on GPsss of this run thus claiming naming rights.
Cheers Frant

Roo
876 posts
25 Oct 2007 12:49PM
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You sail it first, you post a speed, you name it. Plain and simple.

The Waterboy
VIC, 109 posts
27 Oct 2007 8:20PM
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Actually, wasn't contending your naming rights; just wanted to go on record about having sampled the speed potential myself late last year, and to give you the heads up about some of the safety hazards I ran across there during my own explorations.

As for the name itself; might I suggest a quiet renaming? Just imagine if the Tonster, or perhaps even yourself breaks a record there and after triumphantly announcing your feat to the speedsailing world, they humbly inquire where said extraordinary event was achieved.

Your response; ... arrr.... ummm...yeah....AKangaPub.

If you're open to submissions for a new name; in deference to the injuries sustained by poor wee leg at this location, might I suggest a renaming to something along the lines of "Speedscars", or perhaps "Kiter's Folly"?

Alternatively, there's always the logical, accurate and entirely neutral "Swan Bay".

Regardless, you posted the first tracklog on the place, so it's up to you.

And what the heck happened to the wind forecast for Port Phillip today? Reckon the mob at Seabreeze and BOM have a sadistic sense of humour. Either that, or they know where I live and wanted to roll my house.

Pray for wind!!

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
14 Nov 2007 2:31PM
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Kleen here, We seen ya, no I mean we didn't actually see ya but we seen ya car so we know you were there, if ya know what I mean, cause we were not where we said we were cause we weren't allowed to use the correct name for where we were which is not where you said we were at is called. Anyway someone was smokin an it wasn't you, could have been me cause I'm not used to smokin and all us guys that were smokin had a nice communal stash and group hugs afterwards but now I'm confused cause if you post at the wrong place it doesn't count but if we post at the wrong place it does count. Ah what the heck lets all be good sports about this and just accept that you are invisible and dont count.

Roo
876 posts
14 Nov 2007 1:48PM
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I wasn't there, I never saw myself, I looked in the mirror and there was nothing. I did see Mr Kleen, boy he is so fast I almost didn't see him. As I'm just a figment of my own imagination I think I'll go and sail with the fairies next time, the Speed bunnies are way too fast for me and I don't think I can handle getting smoked again.

choco
SA, 4175 posts
14 Nov 2007 4:45PM
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I posted the lyrics to a classic 70's skyhooks track "ego" on the GPS Speedsurfing forum for your mate Roo wonder wether he will come up with a new title for the song

Roo
876 posts
14 Nov 2007 3:47PM
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Grew up with the song mate, loved Shirl and the hooks! Doubt B. Kleen will get the significance of it.



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